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EarlG

(21,947 posts)
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:02 PM May 2015

Pic Of The Moment: Jeb Bush Says Jesus Would Be The Perfect Republican Candidate



Large GOP field has party leaders anxious about their chances in '16


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Pic Of The Moment: Jeb Bush Says Jesus Would Be The Perfect Republican Candidate (Original Post) EarlG May 2015 OP
k&r nt! bananas May 2015 #1
i am a democrat because i am Christian questionseverything May 2015 #11
Hold On...He Didn't Name Him billhicks76 May 2015 #61
least of them questionseverything May 2015 #65
Where Did You Get That Idea From? billhicks76 May 2015 #76
see bananas post questionseverything May 2015 #108
They're pointing out that Jeb didn't say "Jesus", Jeb said someone who "existed 2000 years ago" bananas May 2015 #80
ok ty questionseverything May 2015 #107
quite a brilliant insight there bill Voice for Peace May 2015 #92
I think he was referring to King Herod. AllTooEasy May 2015 #37
Caligula and Nero also are about that time central scrutinizer May 2015 #55
Tiberus was Emperor at that time (14 AD - 37 AD) rpannier May 2015 #66
lead in the Water was a non-issue in Rome. happyslug May 2015 #87
Lead was used in the making of the cups that Caligula and other elites drank from rpannier May 2015 #90
"water adsorbs lead mostly when the water is standing still" Thor_MN May 2015 #105
If Jesus was here, he would be considered fringe far left. PatrickforO May 2015 #104
PS: I hear he might be Jewish! n/t Bossy Monkey May 2015 #2
He was an obscure cult-leader from the Middle-East. DetlefK May 2015 #7
He was a democratic socialist who needed a haircut. Not exactly Jeb's role model. leveymg May 2015 #53
LOL! Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #67
They love them so much that GOP Jesus often looks a lot like Thor without his cape, armor & Mjölnir. xocet May 2015 #62
Don't forget about turning water into wine. bananas May 2015 #3
According to a fundamentalist acquaintance he turned water into grape juice. Enthusiast May 2015 #52
Holy grape juice! Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #68
Actually, I think the KJV calls it "new wine" which may suggest it was not quite fermented. leftofcool May 2015 #101
He really is heaven05 May 2015 #4
I didn't think it was possible there could be a dumber Bush Auggie May 2015 #5
Brilliant. One your best, EarlG. Faygo Kid May 2015 #6
And if Jesus did run for office the GOP would put out ads like this 47of74 May 2015 #8
On the other hand, he was a white male... camelfan May 2015 #9
Indeed it has become clear as a bell. Wash. state Desk Jet May 2015 #10
The Methodist Church in North Texas shunned GW when he left office to settled down in Dallas. DhhD May 2015 #49
Bush and Christie are trying to....... wolfie001 May 2015 #12
yep heaven05 May 2015 #14
Isn't Jeb a Catholic now? aint_no_life_nowhere May 2015 #13
Extreme evangelicals think of Catholics as evil non-Christians. Enthusiast May 2015 #59
Similar to how Catholics feel about Mormons Zambero May 2015 #85
True Enthusiast May 2015 #95
And Wouldn't Birthers Love That? Wolf Frankula May 2015 #15
Luckily for Jeb, Jamaal510 May 2015 #16
This sounds like something... Saviolo May 2015 #17
Stupidity runs in the family. n/t LibDemAlways May 2015 #18
I think Jeb meant Paul would make the perfect Republican Candidate LynneSin May 2015 #19
"Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary... alterfurz May 2015 #20
Diverse field? sulphurdunn May 2015 #21
Di more people enter the GOP field SwankyXomb May 2015 #34
LOL!!!!! Oh, Yeah!!!!! LongTomH May 2015 #36
I know the man is just running his mouth... malthaussen May 2015 #22
Sounds like Jeb is voting for Sanders, LuvNewcastle May 2015 #23
Why is it their Jesus images are always Scandinavian DFW May 2015 #24
Israel is way north of the 30 degree latitude. Teutonic languages come from Yiddish. DhhD May 2015 #50
But of course. I should have looked it up. DFW May 2015 #51
Because most of them are Aryan Nation apologists who think jesus looked like Thor The Avenger. Volaris May 2015 #63
And Jeb, being part of the ruling class, would have Jesus put to death Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #25
The MSM would crucify him cyberswede May 2015 #26
Too, can someone help me find where Jesus asiliveandbreathe May 2015 #27
If the Second Coming happend tomorrow, Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #28
and then they would nail him to the walls of the National Cathedral. Volaris May 2015 #64
Remember Teddy Cruz has taken over for Jesus as his non-evangelical church has anointed him as DhhD May 2015 #74
People who know nothing about religion + people who know nothing about government = The Tea Party Initech May 2015 #29
If they are gonna run ghosts Casper might give him a run for his money. Looks more like jtuck004 May 2015 #30
A republican going into the temple and douggg May 2015 #31
I would a hell of a lot rather... 3catwoman3 May 2015 #32
Maybe he will run? nruthie May 2015 #33
That Liberal? onehandle May 2015 #35
Acutally I know a few "teabaggers" and they truly believe that Jesus agrees Iliyah May 2015 #40
Carpenters of that era carved a Hell of an M16. nt onehandle May 2015 #44
Actually he said "perfect candidate" not "perfect Republican candidate" yellowcanine May 2015 #38
He probably existed? DefenseLawyer May 2015 #39
"Barabbas! Barabbas! Barabbas!" tclambert May 2015 #41
Jesus Rafale May 2015 #42
who would jesus bomb? captainarizona May 2015 #43
If Jesus came back today, the rethugs would call him a socialist and kill him again SummerSnow May 2015 #45
Thom Hartmann always says that Jesus was the original liberal d_legendary1 May 2015 #46
Not a U.S. citizen and didn't make it to age 35. tanyev May 2015 #47
He healed the sick, made the blind to see, too! MADem May 2015 #48
Jeb says a Liberal is the perfect GOP candidate? DesertRat May 2015 #54
Typical for these faux Christians. SoapBox May 2015 #56
phonies charlespercydemocrat May 2015 #70
That "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to God that which is God's" stuff calimary May 2015 #57
seems like He might run into problems with the whole "foreign born" thing 0rganism May 2015 #58
These candidates all have to pander to the religious right, because the religious left sure the hell YOHABLO May 2015 #60
Jeb's IQ rating makes Dumbya look good! Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #69
Yes, scary isn't it? Yikes! Owl May 2015 #75
Jeb and Judas are one of the same polynomial May 2015 #71
I'm pretty sure he would be against the death penalty. IrishEyes May 2015 #72
Ol' Jeb don't disappoint! Plucketeer May 2015 #73
So, Jeb would vote for a long-haired hippy socialist whore-hugger? Ok, that's progress. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #77
The Problem erpowers May 2015 #78
Right on. They are scared to challenge because they want access. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #82
Ayn Rand Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #79
Republican Jesus Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #81
Jesus rebranded Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #83
Republican.... and religion.... are ridiculous. AlbertCat May 2015 #84
He was against usury and tossed money changers out of the temples IronLionZion May 2015 #86
I'm 'pretty sure Jeb wouldn't like his economic policy. Gregorian May 2015 #88
I talk to my mother about politics Aerows May 2015 #89
are you fekking kidding me washington post? Voice for Peace May 2015 #91
Great line: Good luck winning the Republican nomination with THAT platform, Jesus. Major Hogwash May 2015 #93
Yes... LeftishBrit May 2015 #94
REKT joshcryer May 2015 #96
EarlG, you are simply a National Treasure! BlueMTexpat May 2015 #97
Not until you get the Koch bros to quit calling him a "goddamn hippy". n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #98
They try so hard to portray themselves as pious and as being favored by Jesus King_Klonopin May 2015 #99
then there's the opposite of Jesus Christ.. bush. Cha May 2015 #100
Jeb will say anything to get votes. However, his calculations ladjf May 2015 #102
That whole mercuryblues May 2015 #103
"PROBABLY"!? the headline should be "jeb bush doubts jesus ever existed"!!!! unblock May 2015 #106

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
11. i am a democrat because i am Christian
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:34 PM
May 2015

Jesus said," whatever you do for the least of them,you do for me"

since only the dems care about feeding poor children, i am faith bound to be a democrat

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
65. least of them
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:44 PM
May 2015

i think He was referring to the poor,the sick, the children....and since it is my faith i can see it anyway i want

do you have a problem with democrats being Christian and wanting to feed the poor or heal the sick or take care of the elderly?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
76. Where Did You Get That Idea From?
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:26 PM
May 2015

Of course I don't. I just don't believe the Bush family are Christians. I think that if they worship anything it's demons.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
108. see bananas post
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:19 PM
May 2015

i misunderstood your comment

i don't want to try and judge the bush family's faith either way but

one thing that is a problem in this country seems to be too much concentration on the old testament and not enough on the new testament among "conservative" Christians

bananas

(27,509 posts)
80. They're pointing out that Jeb didn't say "Jesus", Jeb said someone who "existed 2000 years ago"
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:36 PM
May 2015

People are pointing out that Jeb could be referring to Pontius Pilate, Herod, etc.
Took me a few minutes to figure that out.

So I think in post #61 "He" refers to Jeb, and "Him" refers to Jesus
replacing those ambiguous pronouns would make post #61 say

61. Hold On...Jeb Didn't Name Jesus
Jeb could easily be referring to Satan or Pontius Pilate.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
107. ok ty
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:09 PM
May 2015

honestly i didnt read anything but the graphic

just jumped at the chance to say it is the democratic party that more closely follows Jesus mandate of "caring for the least of them"

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
92. quite a brilliant insight there bill
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:28 AM
May 2015

and would make more sense that he'd be referring to a rightwing
establishmentarian, authoritarian type of guy, prone to taxing
the poor, shunning the weak, the vulnerable, acquiring personal
wealth; prone as well to condemning anti-establishment bleeding
heart types, killing them whenever he can justify it legally.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
55. Caligula and Nero also are about that time
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:28 PM
May 2015

Ted Cruz seems about as crazy as Caligula (maybe he will nominate his horse as VP) and most of the others seem content to fiddle while the Republic burns

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
66. Tiberus was Emperor at that time (14 AD - 37 AD)
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:04 PM
May 2015

Tiberius was still tossing people off the cliffs at his estate away from Rome

Caligula was born in 12 AD. Was an excellent army officer who was well respected and liked by Romans until about a year into his reign (he likely suffered lead poisoning from drinking hot liquids from the cups that he drank from which were made from lead)

Though he had a brother Nero, it was not the Nero we know best from history. His brother died in 31 AD.
That Nero was born in 37 AD and ruled from 54-68

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
87. lead in the Water was a non-issue in Rome.
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:39 PM
May 2015

The first reason for this is water adsorbs lead mostly when the water is standing still, not flowing and how Rome did its aqueducts and pipes the water ALWAYS was flowing (the various fountains in Rome in Ancient times and restarted during the Renaissance is the result of such constant flow of water.

The second reason is the water in the aqueducts tended to have high mineral content, which tended to line the pipe with they residue, isolating the lead from the water in the process. This lining was about a mm per year about an 4 inches in a century.

On the other hand lead was used in producing "wine" (Rome had a bad problem of Counterfeit wine, in fact one ancient writer said the cheaper the wine, the better it is for it is more pure and NOT counterfeited with derivatives to make it taste better, as was the case with more expensive wines). This "improvements" on the wine included the use of lead pots, which could in theory lead to a massive increase in lead consumption.

The problems are the numbers needed to achieve such insanity, are way higher then the numbers needed to produce other problems:

Although the relationship between ingested lead and blood lead levels varies, and there is no way to quantify what Romans actually ate or drank, he further estimates the total amount of lead absorbed in the blood from all sources to be 50 micrograms per deciliter (µg/dL) or 0.5 mg/L. Three deciliters of such wine, the equivalent of two glasses, would therefore contain 150 µg of lead. Wine poured from Columella's amphora would contain 21,000 µg/L or 2,100 µg/dL.

Such levels have significant physiological consequences. As reported by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, there is brain and kidney damage in adults with blood lead levels of 100 µg/dL; gastrointestinal symptoms such as colic, with levels of approximately 60 µg/dL; anemia with levels of 50 to 80 µg/dL; neurological symptoms with levels of 40 to 60 µg/dL; depressed sperm count with levels of 40 to 50 µg/dL; and increased risk of preterm delivery, low birth weight, and impaired mental development with maternal blood lead levels of 10 to 15 µg/dL. The physiological insult to children would have been even greater. In children five years or younger, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends intervention when the level of lead in the blood is above even 5 µg/dL.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/wine/leadpoisoning.html


Thus, if the source of lead was from the wine itself, you are having 21 times what the US Department of Agriculture reports when you will start seeing solid signs of Lead poisoning. People would notice and someone would have stopped the poisoning IF THE LEAD WAS THAT HIGH.

Caligula had problems, he ruled for less then four years. He was born in 12 AD, but his Father was poisoned in 19 Ad, (it is believed on orders from Tiberius). Thus at the age of 7 Caligula was being involved in the open fight between his mother and Tiberius that was a continuation of the fight between his father and Tiberius.

Caligula's father, Germanicus, had defeated the Germans after the Germans had destroyed three Roman Legions when Augustus tried to conquer Germany. Tiberius always viewed Germanacus as a threat for he was popular with the troops given his victories over the Germans. Germanicus's widow, Antonia, was as popular, as where his children. Antonia was the daughter of Octavia minor, the sister of Augustus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanicus

Now, you must remember Mark Anthony's first wife. She is forgotten in all the movies about him, for she was in charge of Italy after Julius Caesar's death and made sure Mark Antony's claims were protected even if that meant use of troops while Mark Anthony was away in the East. In her efforts to protect Mark Anthony's interest she ended up fighting and dying, but it was her efforts that made Mark Anthony the second man in Rome behind Augustus. This history was not forgotten, for at her death Mark Anthony married the sister of Augustus and together their produced Germanicus's father.

More on Mark Anthony's first wife, Fulvia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulvia

On Mark Anthony's Second wife and Augustus's sister (She ended up taking care of all of Mark Anthony's children, not only her own but Fluvia's and Cleopatra's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_the_Younger

Octavia was much favored by her brother, she was six years older them him and in their younger years had watched over him (almost a mother-child relationship then a sister-brother relationship, thus Anthony's divorce of her was unforgivable by Augustus).

Octavia and Mark Anthony did have children, one of who, Antonia the elder (also known as Antonia Minor, Minor being the latin version of "Younger", became the Mother of Germanicus. Thus Germanicus was the grandson of Mark Anthony and the grand nephew of Augustus. Thus Germanicus was the grandson of Augustus's favorite sister. This gave him an edge over Tiberius in any fight over the throne for Augustus had no sons except by adoption (and these adoptive children stayed with their natural parents, the adoption was stickily political)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonia_Minor

Thus Germanicus was a heir not only to Augustus (via Germanicus's mother and grandmother) but of Mark Anthony who was his Grandfather via Antonia. Thus Germanicus was popular not only with the troops but the people of Rome. Under Tiberius that combination was a death sentence.

Thus Germnaicus was poisoned.

Now Tiberius has one son, Drusus, but under the Plot Praetorian Guard Sejanus he was killed by his own wife (or died of heavy drinking, the record is unclear). Drusus had one son, but even Tiberius believe that son was really the son of Sejanus NOT Drusus. That grandson of Tiberius, Gemelus, was as first was adopted and thus the heir of Caligula when Caligula became emperor, but later that same year Caligula had Gemelus killed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drusus_Julius_Caesar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Gemellus

Caligula had two older brothers, both were killed under Tiberius for alleged plots against Tiberius. These appear to be the fears of a mad man, but Tiberius by then was NOT living in Rome but on Capri so lead was NOT a factor.

Thus by the time we get to Tiberius's death, he had no sons, and his only living relatives where quite young, Caligula (age 25 when he became Emperor) and Gemelus (age 19 at the time he is executed by Caligula).

Caligula had seen his father killed, his two older brother killed. his own mother was arrested, exiled, flogged (in one flogging she lost an eye) seeing her situation as bad, she starved herself to death (Hunger strike till she was permitted to go back to Rome).

More on Caligula's Mother Agrippa the elder:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrippina_the_Elder#Time_in_Rome.2C_downfall_and_posthumous_honors

Given the above treatment of his Father (dead when Caligula was 7), Mother (dead when he was 21), and brothers (both Dead before Caligula was 20, recorded as have been starved to death) and his uncles and cousins (all dead, most by unnatural causes). Caligula had to be careful, then he gained all power as Emperor. He was careful at first, but when he found out that the Army and the People of Rome wanted him for he was the son of Germanicus it went to his head.

One thing to note, at that time period it was required of all troops and Roman Citizens to know how to swim, yet Caligula could not. This supports the theory he had Epileptic fits for people with Epilepsy are discouraged from swimming in case they had a fit while swimming.

My position on Caligula is he shows all of the aspects of a Spoiled Brat AND someone who is recovering from post traumatic shock (The death of his brothers and Mother more then the death of his father, for the former were when he was in his late teens or early 20s, the death of his father was at age 7, an age young enough for him to recover from such a loss quickly). His demand to be treated as a living god even in Rome shows a NEED to be in demand, a reflection of his years in isolation when his mother fought for his and his brother's rights after the death of her husband.

Now, most of the talk of his insanity appears to be post assassination justification. i.e. he had to die for he was insane. On the other hand his plan to move to Alexandria and abandoned Rome, put both the Senate and Praetorian guards on edge. i.e. if he left, he was the commander of every Legion, the Legions were his personal army not the Army of Rome. The bureaucracy set up by Augustus was to pay for that Army, This Bureaucracy was independent of the state for it was considered part of the household of the Emperor, and thus by the time of Caligula was more powerful then the Senate.

Thus the movement of Emperor to Alexandria meant the Emperor, the Roman Army and the whole government to support that army would go with it.

The only organization that could have STOPPED this move would have been the Plebeian Council, but technically it had turned over all its power to the Emperor under Augustus, but still meet till the last years of Tiberius's Rule. The Council could have been the means to get the people of Rome to object to the move in mass, but it no longer meet (but the memory of it still survived).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plebeian_Council#From_471_to_27_BC

Furthermore the Senate of Caligula was no longer the exclusive domain of the old aristocratic families of Rome. Most could not trace themselves further back then to Julius Caesar. The old families were still around and connected to the Senate, but no where near the power they had just 100 years before. In the last years of Tiberius's rule, these two groups had effectively merged and had ruled Rome quite well during the time Tiberius was in self imposed Exile. Caligula bringing the Emperor ship back to Rome changed that and a series of conflicts arouse. When the conflicts became so bad that Caligula decided to move to Alexandria, it was decided he had to go. The Senate was NOT looking to find a new Emperor but to continue what they had done in the last years of Tiberius's rule. To do that Caligula had to go and he went.

The problem was the People of Rome still like Germanicus's name and when Caligula's uncle (Germanicus's brother) was found they made him Emperor. There was some protests, but the new Emperor could work with the Senate and together they ruled Rome till he died and Nero became Emperor.

Thus the whole attack on Caligula may just be justification for his assassination and the attempted coup against him. Claudius did not care to defend his dead nephew for it did not affect his rule, so the attacks on Caligula were permitted and became worse over time. This does not mean Caligula was a Good Emperor, but they is no real evidence he was insane or a truly bad emperor, but one that could NOT work with the Senate as his Uncle was able to do.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
90. Lead was used in the making of the cups that Caligula and other elites drank from
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:14 AM
May 2015

The hot liquid caused the lead in the cup to mix with the liquid they drank

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
105. "water adsorbs lead mostly when the water is standing still"
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:53 AM
May 2015

I don't have time ATM to read your entire post, but that phrase is so wrong I had to reply.

Water does not adsorb lead, it absorbs lead.

Water absorbs lead as long as it is in contact with it.

That may lead into the mistaken notion that moving water doesn't absorb lead, the water standing in lead pipes overnight have been in contact with lead longer. Running the tap for a while only reduces lead content if there is a relatively short run of lead pipe close to the tap. If your water source had a mile of lead pipe there's going to be lead in the water regardless of the rate the water is flowing.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
104. If Jesus was here, he would be considered fringe far left.
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:24 AM
May 2015

If he were a presidential candidate:
1. The corporate owned media wouldn't cover him
2. He would not be invited to participate in debates
3. No super-PACS would give him money

The sad truth is that the further America moves TOWARD neoliberal capitalism, the further AWAY it moves from the tenets of Christ.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
7. He was an obscure cult-leader from the Middle-East.
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:16 PM
May 2015

Republicans LOVE brown-skinned religious guys from the Middle-East.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
62. They love them so much that GOP Jesus often looks a lot like Thor without his cape, armor & Mjölnir.
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:36 PM
May 2015

n/t

bananas

(27,509 posts)
3. Don't forget about turning water into wine.
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:09 PM
May 2015

Especially now that science is discovering the many health benefits of wine.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
101. Actually, I think the KJV calls it "new wine" which may suggest it was not quite fermented.
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:11 AM
May 2015

But, not quite fermented or fermented, it was wine.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
6. Brilliant. One your best, EarlG.
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:14 PM
May 2015

I've always held that as the right wing rail against shellfish and gay marriage as preached in small passages in the Old Testament, they somehow dismiss the most important message of all as preached in the New Testament, the Sermon on the Mount (Beatitudes). You don't have to be a believer to appreciate this, and you won't hear about it on Fox News, Free Republic or talk radio:

"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
10. Indeed it has become clear as a bell.
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:27 PM
May 2015

I can almost hear G.W. Bush telling the nation technology will lead the way, echoes form the past. He was presenting the greatest fix on crutch the republican party ever put out there. The automakers were going under the economy was heading straight down the toilet.
Bush spoke about gloom,doom and despair.

And just the other day Hop Along Jeb took a bite out of the apple.
Suddenly it all becomes clear as a bell.

Snake eyes. Rolling the dice. It all comes down to the wrist watch.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
49. The Methodist Church in North Texas shunned GW when he left office to settled down in Dallas.
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:46 PM
May 2015

SMU-Southern Methodist University did not want his library and fought against it for several years. He made a dumb C-ass speech there the other day giving graduates his advice on how to be successful. How stomach turning. How did the Bush's come to power anyway? The evil empire of Conservatism instead of the fellowship and direction of Jesus.

In reality, Republicans/Bush's oppose Jesus just like the OP says.

wolfie001

(2,231 posts)
12. Bush and Christie are trying to.......
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:40 PM
May 2015

....out-pander each other. The results are hilarious! So much stupid shared between those two clowns.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
13. Isn't Jeb a Catholic now?
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:45 PM
May 2015

I seem to recall that he converted to his wife's religion. I thought Catholics were considered to be non-Christians by the more extreme evangelicals. Maybe he should avoid the issue of religion because of the religious bigots in his own party.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
85. Similar to how Catholics feel about Mormons
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:06 PM
May 2015

And how Mormons feel about Jehovah's Witnesses
And how Jehovah's Witnesses feel about Seventh Day Adventists
etc, etc, etc.

It sure is reassuring to know that Christians aren't such a divisive, fragmented, and judgmental bunch, like, say, those Muslim types...

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
15. And Wouldn't Birthers Love That?
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:47 PM
May 2015

Where's his birth certificate? The Loooooong form. And who was his real daddy?

Wolf

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
16. Luckily for Jeb,
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:52 PM
May 2015

much of his party's base won't care enough that he and others are misinterpreting the Bible for a backwards agenda.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
17. This sounds like something...
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:52 PM
May 2015

...right out of the lips of Sarah Palin. It's the type of grandstanding, silly, tone-deaf, faux-down-home baloney that I'd expect to spew from her.

Jeb's not helping himself much, here.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
19. I think Jeb meant Paul would make the perfect Republican Candidate
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:55 PM
May 2015

Since most fundamentalist Christians tend to follow the teachings of Paul, the guy that came after Jesus. Paul tended to contradict what Jesus said and was a bit of a 'convert them or kill them' mentality.

alterfurz

(2,474 posts)
20. "Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary...
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:56 PM
May 2015

...who hung around with lepers hookers and crooks; wasn't American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth anti-death penalty anti-public prayer (Matthew 6:5); but was never anti-gay, never mentioned abortion or birth control, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a copay; and was a long-haired brown-skinned homeless community-organizing anti-slut-shaming Middle Eastern Jew." -- John Fugelsang

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
22. I know the man is just running his mouth...
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:59 PM
May 2015

... but I'd give a nickel if somebody would pin him to the wall and demand to know on what basis he makes that statement.

-- Mal

DFW

(54,378 posts)
24. Why is it their Jesus images are always Scandinavian
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:10 PM
May 2015

Where any real historical Jesus would have been a dark-skinned, Aramaic-speaking Palestinian?

DFW

(54,378 posts)
51. But of course. I should have looked it up.
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:03 PM
May 2015

Pretty much the same way Latin came from Portuguese

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
63. Because most of them are Aryan Nation apologists who think jesus looked like Thor The Avenger.
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:38 PM
May 2015

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
25. And Jeb, being part of the ruling class, would have Jesus put to death
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:32 PM
May 2015

We can't put ideas of equality, compassion, peace and love in the minds of the common man, now can we?

the burning tears of sarcasm

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
27. Too, can someone help me find where Jesus
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:37 PM
May 2015

was an advocate for War? - Was He a neocon? I'm still looking for this passage?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. If the Second Coming happend tomorrow,
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:39 PM
May 2015

and Jesus came back and started saying those sort of things now, he'd be accused of not being a real Christian by folks on the right.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
64. and then they would nail him to the walls of the National Cathedral.
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:40 PM
May 2015

and Ted Cruz would swing the Hammer.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
74. Remember Teddy Cruz has taken over for Jesus as his non-evangelical church has anointed him as
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:26 PM
May 2015

The One King of the Seven Hills.

Initech

(100,075 posts)
29. People who know nothing about religion + people who know nothing about government = The Tea Party
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:44 PM
May 2015
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
30. If they are gonna run ghosts Casper might give him a run for his money. Looks more like
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:44 PM
May 2015

them, even has his own sheet. And it's a him, though how they figured that I never heard.


3catwoman3

(23,985 posts)
32. I would a hell of a lot rather...
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:52 PM
May 2015

...vote for Jesus than any of the other jackasses who have thrown their egos into the ring.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
40. Acutally I know a few "teabaggers" and they truly believe that Jesus agrees
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:47 PM
May 2015

with them, even on guns as well.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
39. He probably existed?
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:40 PM
May 2015

Now "maybe" is about as far as I would go, but did Jeb Bush just tell his base that he questions the existence of Jesus Christ? Probably, Jeb?

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
41. "Barabbas! Barabbas! Barabbas!"
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:55 PM
May 2015

Teabaggers might claim to have Christian values, but try to run a candidate named Jesus, and they'll scream, "No Hispanics! Give us Barabbas Bush!"

Rafale

(291 posts)
42. Jesus
Wed May 20, 2015, 03:55 PM
May 2015

Capitalism--The basis of which is greed. Hahaha. Yeah, I doubt he would favor either major party. Oops, gotta go. I just noticed a Reaper UAV headed my way.

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
43. who would jesus bomb?
Wed May 20, 2015, 03:59 PM
May 2015

who would jesus bomb or drone? who would jesus execute? who would jesus cut off welfare benefits food stamps unemployment insurance? who would jesus take money from to buy him?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
48. He healed the sick, made the blind to see, too!
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:24 PM
May 2015

And he fed the multitudes with his water into wine and loaves/fishes tricks!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
56. Typical for these faux Christians.
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:46 PM
May 2015

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I'm no expert but I am so sick and tired of these phony Christian hypocrites, that just pull random stuff from the Bible and then spin it for their own personal evil purposes.

Really, when was the last time we heard a Puke or Bagger "preaching" the positive?!?

calimary

(81,265 posts)
57. That "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to God that which is God's" stuff
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:48 PM
May 2015

seems to me to be THE statement in favor of Separation of Church and State.

I've never seen a Gospel passage that quoted Him as saying "render unto both Caesar and God that which both of them share (or have equal claim to)."

It

Just

ISN'T

There.

Seems to me from all my years in Catholic school as a kid - that a VERY clear distinction was made between secular government entities and the religious side. They AREN'T one-and-the-same. They AREN'T tied to each other inextricably. They AREN'T two sides to the same coin. They're two separate, distinct, dissimilar entities. At least that's been my takeaway from studying that passage.

Matthew 22:15-22King James Version (KJV)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A15-22&version=KJV

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
58. seems like He might run into problems with the whole "foreign born" thing
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:54 PM
May 2015

not to mention the "Jewish" thing
and everything else mentioned in the OP

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
60. These candidates all have to pander to the religious right, because the religious left sure the hell
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:57 PM
May 2015

won't vote for their hypocritical asses. So fasten your seat belts because we're going to hear much more how Christians are being ''discriminated against''. They're so full of crap it makes me sick to my stomach. Jebs brother and Cheney were of the Devil. If I believed in the Devil that is. But pure evil.

polynomial

(750 posts)
71. Jeb and Judas are one of the same
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:54 PM
May 2015

The Bush family record is so corrupt, criminal, and screwed up, Jeb has no alternative but to go back in time two thousand years in prerecorded history to avoid charges of political swindling and profiteering.

It is a WTF moment when a presidential candidate also diminished the value of the very document they profess to defend, the Constitution, says there is no religious test of the candidate.

Jeb now preaches like a religious heretic, who disavows a revealed truth ...more and obvious the Iraq war was a lie and he was an integral part of it, helping Arabs, and their money flee the country.


Jeb is cursed, being groomed for decades as smart in the political arena now to finds himself bless to be condemned every time he quotes the bible, even asking blessings for America is only a parable to profiteer and build his family fortune.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
72. I'm pretty sure he would be against the death penalty.
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:07 PM
May 2015

I also think he would be for healing the sick, feeding the hungry, helping the poor, peace, taxing the rich, non violence, and freedom. He wouldn't be a republican. Are we sure Jeb wasn't talking about another historical figure that would be more in line with the republican ideology like Nero?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
73. Ol' Jeb don't disappoint!
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:11 PM
May 2015

Jeb's further CONfirmation that STRANGE things live in the bushes! As Bushes go, Jeb demonstrates a burning desire to pontificate his whiz-dumb!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
78. The Problem
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:29 PM
May 2015

The problems is that no one in the news media challenges Republicans when they say things like this. At least one reporter or news anchor should ask a Republican what would make Jesus Christ a Republican. Please point to one of his statements that would give support to the idea that he would be a Republican.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
84. Republican.... and religion.... are ridiculous.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:56 PM
May 2015

I mean, who takes these bumper sticker blurbs seriously? Who thinks he means what he just said? What did he just say even MEAN???

I want adults with quick smart brains running the country, please.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
86. He was against usury and tossed money changers out of the temples
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:13 PM
May 2015

So a long-haired Jewish peacenick community organizer with no wife or kids that we know of....good luck!

Remember what he said about abortion and guns!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
89. I talk to my mother about politics
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:05 AM
May 2015

and frankly, if I didn't laugh about it, I would cry.

She's wary of Hillary because of 4 people dead in Benghazi, loves Ronald Reagan, and suddenly becomes confused and convinced that I am attacking her when I point out dead Marines in Beirut under her hero's watch, gets mad because I mention whose watch 9/11 happened on, and is puzzled when I ask her which party the deficit increases under.

I pretty much pointed out that the only person she will ever vote for is a big strapping cowboy like my father pretends to be (He has a few guns, and the few times he's used them for hunting ducks he was bad at it, and is afraid of horses - he looked like he was going to have a heart attack when he saw me riding one balls out at a gallop) that pretends to give a crap about the Republicans that vote for them.

The poisonous look I received could have killed everyone in the county and two counties over.

I asked her if she knew anything about the dead marines in Nepal. "Oh, I heard about that."

My response "Well, if your only response to 8 Marines dying trying to save people is "what a tragedy" but 4 dead in a known CIA outpost conducting weapons trades is "outrage", you might need to re-evaluate your principles."

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
91. are you fekking kidding me washington post?
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:21 AM
May 2015

They're ALL so good!

They're all SO good!

They're all so GOOD!

Republicans have an array of candidates demonstrating strength. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker got off to a fast start in January and sits at or near the top in many polls, while Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) rose with a splashy April campaign launch that highlighted his charisma and youthful vigor. Others have impressed, too, including Carly Fiorina, a former technology executive and the lone woman in the field, who is considered a long shot but wowed RNC members in Scottsdale with her substantive stump speech and cutting attacks on Clinton.

Republican activists love that they have so many candidates to consider. At Bush’s event, Darlene Block, 73, the party co-chairman in Jackson County, ticked through her short list: “Jeb’s on it. So is Dr. [Ben] Carson. And I like — I keep forgetting his name, but he’s the senator from Florida. Marco? Marco Rubio! I’m terrible on names. I’ve met Ted Cruz, I’ve found that [former Texas governor Rick] Perry was so much more sensible than I thought he would be. . . . And Rev. [Mike] Huckabee. . . . They all are so good.”

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
93. Great line: Good luck winning the Republican nomination with THAT platform, Jesus.
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:25 AM
May 2015

This is the funniest thing I have ever seen you say in these Pics of the Moment, Earl.
This tops them all.

Because it is so true.

And also, sad at the same time.
Because Republicans quote Jesus all of the time, and yet none of them act as if they would follow him if Jesus were alive today.
They are hypocrites.





LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
94. Yes...
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:31 AM
May 2015

I am sure that the Republicans want to nominate a Jewish, Middle Eastern, rebellious type who thinks that people will be judged on the basis of their treatment of the 'least of these', that it is as hard for a rich man to enter Heaven as for a camel to get through a needle's eye, and that one cannot worship both God and Mammon.

In any case, what the Republicans obviously really want is to nominate the ghost of Ronald Reagan.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
97. EarlG, you are simply a National Treasure!
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:06 AM
May 2015

No less.

It was your Top Ten Conservative Idiots column that drew me to DU in the first place. While I still miss the wonderful work that you did there, these near-daily spot-on graphics are certainly a great consolation prize.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
99. They try so hard to portray themselves as pious and as being favored by Jesus
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:42 AM
May 2015

Self-deluded, grandiose, overcome by a Messianic Complex and blind to the hypocrisy --

Makes my head explode whenever they spout this bullshit.

If all you have is a cursory knowledge of the New Testament, it is easy to see that all of
the teachings and actions of Jesus are politically Liberal.

The policies and the mind-set of Conservatism are completely similar with those of
The Pharisees -- whom Jesus despised -- and are anathema to Christianity.

The Beatitudes ("Blessed are those who ... &quot would never apply to a conservative
person of today's NeoCon stripe.
However, every quote from Jesus that was framed as a warning and which began with
the phrase, "Woe to you ..." certainly does apply to them.

Those Pharisees believed that they were the chosen ones who acted on behalf of God.
But they killed Jesus for political expedience, and to protect their power and authority,
because he told them to their faces that they were totally full of shit.

Woe to you too, Jeb!

unblock

(52,227 posts)
106. "PROBABLY"!? the headline should be "jeb bush doubts jesus ever existed"!!!!
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:56 AM
May 2015

try winning the republican nomination now, you heathen!

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