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'She's Been Awfully Silent': O'Malley Rips Hillary Over Trade Stance (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2015 OP
"Rips?" Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #1
I only posted it Omaha Steve May 2015 #2
Wasn't a rip... raindaddy May 2015 #3
Reinstating Glass-Steagall is going to re-enter her picture. Two wrongs do not make a right. DhhD May 2015 #7
He answered a question from the press. So far, we are waiting for Hillary Clinton to do the same. JDPriestly May 2015 #23
Gramm-Leach-Bliley removed Glass—Steagal. They are Republicans, all three of them. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #33
here's the deal azureblue May 2015 #11
Please see my post #23. JDPriestly May 2015 #25
The number of jobs that have left this country since 1993; she will have to discuss. DhhD May 2015 #4
Yes Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #13
Is that what you call a "rip". Well I'll be darned. lamp_shade May 2015 #5
I guess the news of her stating she will make her opinion known when she see the final agreement has Thinkingabout May 2015 #6
That is when it is too late salib May 2015 #8
Exactly! Plucketeer May 2015 #9
Tell me what she can do on whether TPP passes or fails? She is not in control of the barn. Thinkingabout May 2015 #17
Currently? Plucketeer May 2015 #31
Since i have the same opinion of waiting until the final agreement. Thinkingabout May 2015 #32
This is a subject which should be addressed to those in the official business of approving or Thinkingabout May 2015 #16
she has no control over millions of things yet she comments on them nt msongs May 2015 #21
She knows what's in this bill and she's trying to play both sides.. raindaddy May 2015 #18
Leaked and not final, negotiations is not a final, it foes back anf forth, a real leader Thinkingabout May 2015 #19
Are you suggesting that the former Sec. of State in O's administration... raindaddy May 2015 #20
Her answer is as it is, she is not a member of Congress, why can't you accept her answer? Thinkingabout May 2015 #22
No one is asking her to sign anything... raindaddy May 2015 #24
You are asking her for an opinion, I also am with holding my opinion until Thinkingabout May 2015 #27
Good luck with that... raindaddy May 2015 #29
Once Hillary starts speaking to the press on her own behalf, these questions will end. JDPriestly May 2015 #26
So O'Malley has to answer "What should Hillary do?" questions too? BrotherIvan May 2015 #10
The MSM wants a coronation so badly. Ed Suspicious May 2015 #12
Or they want Democrats to beat her up before the general just like 2008 BrotherIvan May 2015 #14
Truth! libodem May 2015 #15
Shhh, have you no respect? She's Thinking. Then there's the soundless wet finger in the air. libdem4life May 2015 #28
That Sounds Violent. stonecutter357 May 2015 #30

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
3. Wasn't a rip...
Sun May 31, 2015, 11:15 AM
May 2015

He didn't have to rip her.. She's ripping herself by remaining silent on the biggest most damaging corporate power grab in history!

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
7. Reinstating Glass-Steagall is going to re-enter her picture. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Sun May 31, 2015, 11:23 AM
May 2015

Democrat wrong on removing Glass-Steagall + no reinstatement of Glass Steagall = a wrong move, in my opinion.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
23. He answered a question from the press. So far, we are waiting for Hillary Clinton to do the same.
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:01 PM
May 2015

Let's see what she says about Glass-Steagall and the TPP once she deigns to talk to the press and the nation as a whole.

Until she does, it is kind of hard to criticize others for criticizing her silence.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
33. Gramm-Leach-Bliley removed Glass—Steagal. They are Republicans, all three of them.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:07 AM
Jun 2015

It was a Republican bill. The big mistake was when President Clinton didn't veto it.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
11. here's the deal
Sun May 31, 2015, 12:06 PM
May 2015

O'malley, and whoever --- if you start off slagging other candidates and not talking about your own qualifications and experience, the issues, and how you will use your qualifications to directly address the issues, I will not vote for you. You are getting hired to do a job, and I want to know how well you can do it.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. Please see my post #23.
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:04 PM
May 2015

O'Malley was just answering a question. Hillary is setting herself up for criticism by not coming forward, not talking to the press and not letting us know where she stands on issues.

Oh, yes. She did tell us where she stands on heroin. A bit of a no-brainer in my view.

The other candidates are in the race and being questioned by the press. Had O'Malley not answered the questions about Hillary, then we would wonder why not. We would wonder whether he is Hillary's man. I think he, like Bernie Sanders, is his own man.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. I guess the news of her stating she will make her opinion known when she see the final agreement has
Sun May 31, 2015, 11:20 AM
May 2015

not reached everywhere. This is where I stand also, until the final agreement is delivered it is only speculations given. O'Malley knows what she has said, it is time to accept facts, he wants to speculate, she does not.

salib

(2,116 posts)
8. That is when it is too late
Sun May 31, 2015, 11:42 AM
May 2015

TPA will have passed, and there are certainly enough Repub votes to pass it, whatever it is or however bad it is, at that point.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
31. Currently?
Sun May 31, 2015, 06:24 PM
May 2015

She can do little - although I'd bet a buck to a stale donut that she has Obama's ear. But say it gets sidetracked - this time - and she's president when it comes up again. And while I'd dearly LOVE to have a woman in the oval office - I just do not want this particular woman there.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. Since i have the same opinion of waiting until the final agreement.
Sun May 31, 2015, 07:04 PM
May 2015

Anything else is speculation, you are looking for failures, I am looking for success. If TPP wasn't an issue would you support Hillary?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. This is a subject which should be addressed to those in the official business of approving or
Sun May 31, 2015, 01:18 PM
May 2015

disapproving the agreement, Hillary DOES NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL of what happens to TPA or TPP.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
18. She knows what's in this bill and she's trying to play both sides..
Sun May 31, 2015, 01:24 PM
May 2015

Enough information has been leaked, its no mystery anymore as to who this bill benefits and who's going to get hurt by it. She says she respects Warren so much why doesn't she giver her a call.

A real leader that's passionate about defending the middle class doesn't allow precious time where to go by while she could be educating and influencing people as to what this bill really is..

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. Leaked and not final, negotiations is not a final, it foes back anf forth, a real leader
Sun May 31, 2015, 01:46 PM
May 2015

would be speculating. Warren is in the Senate, Hillary isn't, Warren has information available and not supposed to "leak" the information. Are you saying Warren should disregard the rules and leak it to Hillary? I doubt a real leader such as Warren would "leak". I have more respect for Warren.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
20. Are you suggesting that the former Sec. of State in O's administration...
Sun May 31, 2015, 02:13 PM
May 2015

can't gain access to the TPP?
Besides Wikileaks has already has already leaked the entire draft text...

Warren has specifically pointed to the “Investor-State Dispute Settlement... "The name may sound mild, but don’t be fooled. Agreeing to ISDS in this enormous new treaty would tilt the playing field in the United States further in favor of big multinational corporations. Worse, it would undermine U.S. sovereignty.

ISDS would allow foreign companies to challenge U.S. laws — and potentially to pick up huge payouts from taxpayers — without ever stepping foot in a U.S. court."

Just this alone should be enough to motivate any Democrat leader with populist leanings into coming out publicly against the bill..
The very fact Hillary's still "thinking about it" while the other two Dems running for President have made it clear they're against it tells me all I need to know about HRC...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
22. Her answer is as it is, she is not a member of Congress, why can't you accept her answer?
Sun May 31, 2015, 02:50 PM
May 2015

You don't know the final either, I don't know the final. Would you be one who would sign papers without reading the content? If you do I don't.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
24. No one is asking her to sign anything...
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:03 PM
May 2015

They're just asking her for an opinion on "what has already been exposed." The woman wants to be the President! We deserve more than Hillary Clinton's Machiavellian political theater..

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
27. You are asking her for an opinion, I also am with holding my opinion until
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:21 PM
May 2015

The final agreement is released. BTW, I had opinion since before she stated it publically. You are asking her to sign on with her opinion, you are speculating on what is in the final.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
29. Good luck with that...
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:37 PM
May 2015

It's already an uphill battle and by the time Hillary offers an opinion it'll probably be too late anyway.. I'm sure that's exactly what she wants.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
26. Once Hillary starts speaking to the press on her own behalf, these questions will end.
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:08 PM
May 2015

And then she is on her own.

The questions will ask other candidates to respond to her statements. That is politics. If she is not up to it, she won't last long.

I'm waiting to see how she manages to answer questions on the TPP. After all the initial and some of the important phases of the negotiation of that monstrous corporate coup took place under her tenure as secretary of state. It's going to be very interesting . . . . .

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
14. Or they want Democrats to beat her up before the general just like 2008
Sun May 31, 2015, 12:25 PM
May 2015

GE and Time Warner both went for Obama last time in campaign contributions. That might be a hint as to whom they want.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
28. Shhh, have you no respect? She's Thinking. Then there's the soundless wet finger in the air.
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:22 PM
May 2015

Not exactly one hand clapping, but close. LOL

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