Pic Of The Moment: Sure, Donald Trump May Have Dodged Vietnam Through Draft Deferments, But...

[EarlG]

TRUMP: I Never Went To Vietnam, But 'I Felt That I Was In The Military'

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[HassleCat]

1. Private Donald, what is your tenth general order?!!

You don't know? You don't KNOW! Drop and give me twenty, you maggot! And don't you even THINK of running for president until you know your general orders. Maggot!

[MADem]

35. OMG, the general orders to the sentry!!

Number ONE... To take charge of this post and all government property in view....



I'd forgotten all about those! Guess those brain cells survived, because it's all coming back to me, now...

[cactusfractal]

47. Still know 'em...

Especially the 12th.

[MADem]

48. Would that be "Memorize the first 11?"

Or the rhymer about 'To walk one's post from flank to flank, and not take shit from any rank?'


Hee hee....

[underpants]

2. I am Batman!

[homegirl]

3. Waste

of good American money as he is still behaving badly!

[AlbertCat]

4. More military training than....

Well, get your ass down to TX! Its being invaded!

(whatever happened to that circus?)

[NewJeffCT]

11. next time for sure!

The first two invasions were just clever tricks to get all those brave open carry & paramilitary types to relax their guard. The next one is the real invasion.

[tclambert]

49. Maybe Jade Helm 16 will work!

If that fails, there's always Jade Helm 17.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

5. Now that he's dissed the entire military

Does that mean his poll numbers go up again? I thought the reps just LOVED the military. This should be very interesting!!!

[Shrike47]

6. If he'd been a lieutenant in 'Nam, he would have been fragged.

[MADem]

36. Front towards enemy....?

He'd have to get through officer training first!

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

64. I hadn't even thought of claymore mines in years.

Once again, the Donald shows he hasn't got a clue. Going to military school is not the same as being in the military, and definitely is not the same as having been in combat.

[ejbr]

7. This guy is toast

WTF is he talking about? How stupid does one have to be to take this joker seriously?

[PeaceNikki]

8. That picture is freaking pure gold, EarlG!

[Baitball Blogger]

16. +1

[SoapBox]

9. Ugh...he's just a disgrace.

It's sad that he's an American.

[hobbit709]

10. "sent him to correct poor behavior"-evidently it didn't work.

[NewJeffCT]

12. My thoughts as well

Maybe daddy & mommy trump should have gotten a refund?

[malthaussen]

20. Horrid thought, maybe it did.

We have no idea how much of a brat he was before he entered the academy.

-- Mal

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. All it did was teach him how to play drill sergeant.

[SoapBox]

13. Also...Active Duty and Veteran's...remember this statement!

Especially when you cast your vote on November 4, 2016.

He HAS more Military experience than YOU!

[czarjak]

14. "I'm really rich".....

Huh, Don?

[Marthe48]

15. There goes the veterans' votes

I HOPE!

[Helen Borg]

17. That's why he's so tough...

[Mendocino]

18. I still have

my GI JOE Jeep. I watched the TV show "Combat". I can do all the good lines from The Dirty Dozen. That should make me an absolutely HUGE KING GENERAL!!!

[GP6971]

57. What???

No Rat Patrol??

[Mendocino]

59. No Rat Patrol

but I watched F-Troop, McHales Navy and Gomer Pyle. If that doesn't make me military.....hrrmph!

[malthaussen]

19. As I indicated elsewhere, I think this is actually unfair to Trump

Much would depend on the tone of voice with which he said it. But Mr Trump is not one to think that training or education "qualifies" him for something, he believes he is "qualified" by right of being God's Own Trump. I'm sure many inmates of military schools "feel" like they are in the military, and as for training, it is not hard to believe that the NY Military Academy trained their cadets in some ways more than the military. Drill, for example, which is typically taken to ridiculous lengths in such schools.

It does not necessarily follow from the selected quotes that Mr Trump believes his time in the NY Military Academy was equatable to military service, and although I dislike pretending to be the Shadow, I'd wager he has nothing but disdain for the "losers" who allowed themselves to be dragooned into service.

-- Mal

[MADem]

38. I'd say "Are you kidding?" but I suspect you're not, even though Trump only has one "tone" of voice

...and that is .... bellicose!

I think Trump is "unfair" to the American people--he's a joke, a clown, a buffoon, and his balloon will pop soon enough. He's the pet rock, the Troll, the Mood Ring of the silly pre-primary season, and eventually he'll be tossed on the Heap of Forgotten Toys with the rest of the idiots from days gone by who amused people briefly but couldn't keep the bullshit up.

Then, the next guy up may not be Jeb!... but Kasich. We'll see...

He's the flavor of the month, but he's melting....

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/10-of-the-biggest-presidential-primary-busts-in-recent-history/

[malthaussen]

43. I agree with your sentiments about Trump...

... but I think the author of this NYT article is forcing the quote into his desired shape. I really do doubt Donald thinks he has the same level of expertise or ability as the military thanks to his education -- rather, I think he believes the military are a bunch of losers and he is far superior to them. But the quotes selected only show him reminiscing to his biographer. When I was 16, I thought I was in love -- this is a true statement. Upon mature reflection (which I doubt Trump has), I would not call it love now.

-- Mal

[MADem]

45. I think Dildo Really (aka Bill O'Reilly) is the biggest asshole in the world....

But I just found this on YT--it's a scary thing, when Dildo sounds like the LUCID one!!!! I guess there is an entire interview, I just could not stomach the whole thing--someone else is going to have to do that role (Media Matters, or some such!):

And this was back in June, BEFORE he got really bloviating!

[GP6971]

58. You are correct in that the military

academy mind set is drill, drill and more drill. And the "walking tours" were primarily used as punishment. I remember my father, grandfather and great uncle often talking about all the crap they went through and arguing who had it worst. They were NYMA graduates of 42, 18 & 16 respectively.

[Fritz Walter]

21. Chickenhawk First Class with Distinguished Fleeing Cross.

I was very surprised to find no mention of this poser in the official list of Chickenhawks, maintained by the New Hampshire Gazette.

According to their Hall of Shame,...

When an American male (or an especially belligerent female) makes the challenging transition from late adolescence into early adulthood, he is faced with many decisions. One certain, specific combination of choices will result in his becoming a chickenhawk: choosing to “support” war, while also choosing not to serve in the military. His motto becomes: “Let’s you and him go fight; I’ll hold your coat.”

Depending on external circumstances, such an individual may become one of three varieties of chickenhawk:
• If there is no draft, and the nation is at peace, the individual becomes a Common Chickenhawk;
• If there is a draft, and the nation is at peace, the individual becomes a Chickenhawk First Class;
• If the there is a draft, and the nation is at war, the individual becomes a Chickenhawk First Class with Distinguished Fleeing Cross.

I have since corrected that oversight and nominated tRump. Rather than use a photoshopped image or caricature, I think this one is suitable.


You're welcome!

[3catwoman3]

23. Distinguished Fleeing Cross - excellent.

From that sneering facial expression, I expected to see a different finger extended - the one I would like to extend to Mr. Trump.

[red dog 1]

30. Excellent post!

Thanks

[MADem]

39. HUGE LOL @ Distinguished Fleeing Cross!! That's a DUzy for the record books!

I miss the DUzys!!

[Fritz Walter]

56. As do I

I just wish that the other Repuke candidates -- who qualify -- would be likewise nominated!

As any Army brat who could not serve for a legitimate health reason, I have devoted much of my adult life to supporting service members and their families. It turns my stomach to see the GOPosers talk the talk but demure on walking the walk.

[L. Coyote]

22. And, as a rich kid, he had more toy soldiers under his command.

[ck4829]

24. "I also play lots of Call of Duty, I'm pretty sure I have more combat experience than most soldiers"

[Still In Wisconsin]

25. My dad (USMC, Korea) would have a few choice words for The Donald about this.

The would not be nice words either.

[mrmpa]

62. Ditto................

my father also USMC, Korea and being a Chosin Reservoir survivor would have a few choice words for this asshole.

[roscoeroscoe]

26. Please

Not really on the line, there, were you Mr. Trump?

[SnowCritter]

27. Two words, Donny-boy

Parris Island.

FOAD!

[DemoTex]

28. Deja vu all over again ..

[d_legendary1]

29. Apparently the dumber the things he says are

the higher his ratings get. Are the pollsters sampling the same two people or what?

[SammyWinstonJack]

31. Wow, the nerve of this jerk is astounding.

[jtuck004]

32. Good for him. Anyone who could have avoided that war should have, by whatever means.

But most didn't go on to profit from their father's wealth and become useless bigots, while pretending they never got any advantage.

Not pres, but do we have an official position, say "Officicious Lying Gasbag" where we could stick Evilhair? He should be perfect for that one.

[jmowreader]

41. Tom Cotton already has that job.

[jtuck004]

46. Figures. Evilhair always was a day late and a dollar short, despite his bragging. n/t

[red dog 1]

33. K&R

Trump is a lying sack of GOP excrement....and a chickenhawk too!

[NCjack]

34. Donnie just got the military prep school but-did-not serve-in military voters. Also, he may have

lost a lot of the veteran voters. I sure wish he would keep his stupid-mouth closed until we about 2 weeks before the GOP convention begins on July 18th 2016.

[PeaceNikki]

37. BTW, your PotM images seem to be going more and more viral on FB lately

Sometimes the democraticunderground.com is cropped out.

[louis-t]

40. FRAUD! PHONY!

What kind of 'training' did you get at boarding school, asshole? How to line up and stand still? How to respect authority? How to do pushups? You were NOT in the military. You were only there because of bad behavior, you spoiled, entitled little prick.

[PatrickforO]

42. This graphic, which is very good by the way, reminds me of

something Trump said during an interview. I believe this interview was with Chuck Todd. Chuck asked which generals he'd go to for military advice, and the Donald kind of did a 'deer in the lights.'

Recovering quickly (he is, after all, the master of the 'art of the deal'), he replied, "Well, I watch all the shows. I watch your show. Some of these shows have really good guests..."

I guess we might say he's a little weak on foreign policy and national defense.

The guy wants to be but he's actually really, really a

[lark]

44. I'd love for him to come out with that at one of the debates.

It'd be funny seeing so many folks' heads explode.

[Skittles]

50. narcisissm on full display

disgusting

[yurbud]

51. PIC: this would be a more accurate uniform for him:

[yurbud]

52. PIC: the Donald and his band of brothers

[barbtries]

54. and you mean to tell me

that there are humans alive who don't recognize that for absolute bullshit?

[ailsagirl]

55. Geez, there's no dearth of stupid expressions on the donald's face

Every day I see something new! Today it's "the pout"

Or else, "pucker up" (worse!)

[Initech]

60. I always thought I was in Vietnam because I bingewatched all 13 seasons of M*A*S*H. Does that count?

[IrishEyes]

67. Yes

Congratulations! You are also qualified to be a army surgeon and army nurse after watching every episode of MASH.

My brother was in the army and is currently a police officer. He is also a conservative republican much to my mother's shame. I wonder what he thinks of Trump's statement. I'm afraid to ask who he is supporting. Thanksgiving should be interesting this year.

[Cleita]

61. Seems his parents wasted their money.

That school never corrected his poor behavior.

[SHRED]

63. Imagine for one moment...

...If President Obama had said something like this.

[63splitwindow]

66. The right con wingnut screaming would be so loud that...

we could all hear it outdoors. Yet those same worthless traitors say nothing about tRump's asinine assertion.

[Doctor_J]

65. I had a "union vs. confederate" chess set once

That makes me a civil war veteran I guess

[lonestarnot]

68. Psychotic asshat.

[allan01]

69. hem

marine induction station , azusa ca 1976 i reported for selective service registration, the recruitor snarled " 'come back to mrrow , were closed . came back the next day, " we are a all volunteer service now". (jimmy cater era )we will still take u in " ( required by law).4fd . at least i tried, unlike this person. bah humbug. if there is ever a draft again, all these wannabies should be the first ones chosen.

[turbinetree]

70. Hey, Trumpster..........................

I spent 18 years count them, 18 years growing up in the military and I have more experience in that stint, than what you did when you were 1-S deferments status over 4 times.
And I got to wait and see if my birthday came out the barrel when they had the good old lottery, while you were sitting on your fat a*** with you 1-S deferment, laughing and having a beer at the Wharton School of BS and I don't mean Bachelor of Science
Just imagine past your inflated ego how I feel that some of my friends came home in body bags during that time frame--------------you have no god damn clue what it was like------------------none.
You hypocrite, you really are a piece of right wing hypocrisy---------------just like others on your side