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Rachel Maddow - 'There will be more porn': Pennsylvania scandal about to turn explicit (Original Post) Galraedia Sep 2015 OP
Excellent reporting from Maddow. Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #1
agreed patsimp Sep 2015 #3
Wow. blue neen Sep 2015 #2
Citizen Kane Beowulf42 Sep 2015 #4
Any chance of a summary for those of us who can't view vids @ work? Orrex Sep 2015 #5
Let's see eggplant Sep 2015 #9
Oh, wow. Orrex Sep 2015 #10
Actually, the poster left out the most important part. At the end Rachel said that tomorrow she StevieM Sep 2015 #17
... cui bono Sep 2015 #20
She denies leaking said material, and there has yet to be a trial on those charges. Divernan Sep 2015 #15
I was going for a quick and dirty explanation. eggplant Sep 2015 #16
It almost appears bucolic_frolic Sep 2015 #18
... cui bono Sep 2015 #21
Link for reading Human101948 Sep 2015 #6
Here's what I posted in the Pennsylvania forum Divernan Sep 2015 #7
This will get good. padfun Sep 2015 #8
i love R Maddow shows, she is fair, honest to all politicians. rladdi Sep 2015 #11
In Terry Pratchett's delightful: "The Last Continent" LongTomH Sep 2015 #12
Getting my popcorn and beer ready! d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #13
emails sent on government computers through government rurallib Sep 2015 #14
Uh??? JoeOtterbein Sep 2015 #19

blue neen

(12,321 posts)
2. Wow.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:32 AM
Sep 2015

Things are finally starting to make sense here in PA. No wonder they're trying so hard to get rid of Kathleen Kane!

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
9. Let's see
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:57 PM
Sep 2015

In PA, in order to be AG, one must be a member of the PA bar. Recently her membership was suspended because she had leaked nasty stuff (sex emails) about political opponents and is up on charges for it. So it isn't clear whether she will still be AG when the suspension goes live in 30 days.

In the meantime, she says that while she is still AG, she is going to release, UNREDACTED, all of the emails, etc related to sex/porn at work by state employees, including politicians, judges, ...

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
17. Actually, the poster left out the most important part. At the end Rachel said that tomorrow she
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:42 PM
Sep 2015

would break a bombshell story about a Republican presidential candidate who is under federal investigation.

And since she said it yesterday, that means that she is revealing it tonight (Thursday).

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
15. She denies leaking said material, and there has yet to be a trial on those charges.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:34 PM
Sep 2015

She was not suspended for having committed a crime, but for having been ACCUSED of committing a crime. That is unprecedented.

Another fact is that the PA. Supreme Court controls testing, licensing and discipline of attorneys, totally separate from the trial system. For example, lawyers have been suspended or disbarred for alcoholism, drug addiction, even for missing critical filing deadlines and therefore costing their clients the opportunity of pursuing legal action. So in this instance, the PA Supreme Court was not acting in its capacity as the court of last appeal in the state, but as the arbiter of law licensing.

Now keep in mind, that one of the State Supreme Court Justices was forced to resign in disgrace following Kane's revelations of multiple porn/racist/sexist emails he had sent on his state owned computer to other state employees on their state owned computers. Judges are well known to circle the wagons to even the mildest public criticism of one of their own.

A lot of judges get by with outrageous behavior because attorneys know the payback for criticizing them will be long, it will be severe, it will hurt their clients and it will be applied to other attorneys & their clients in that attorney's firm. By payback, I refer to actions like denying every one of their motions at trial, treating them with contempt in front of the jury, etc. We still have a judge on the bench in Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) who called a female attorney into his quarters - which is unethical on its own - called ex parte - a judge must include all attorneys on a case in any meeting - no private meetings allowed. He then proceeded to slap a pair of handcuffs on her, as his idea of foreplay. She got hysterical, he backed off, and she reported him for an ethics violation. He shortly thereafter called a male attorney into chambers and slapped the cuffs on him, to try to prove there was nothing sexual in his actions - this was just a whacky game he played with lawyers. Nothing came of her complaint. On another occasion that same judge was the target of a joint federal investigation (IRS & FBI) re multiple charges of bribery, corruption & kickbacks. Nothing came of that either when witnesses were too intimidated to testify.

To strip an attorney general (Democratic) for the entire state of her/his law license, and effectively her elective office,solely because of a criminal action being instigated by a county prosecutor (Republican) opens up a horrible precedent.

A mainstay of our judicial system is this: innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, by a jury, after full and fair airing of all evidence. Kane hasonly had some pre-trial hearings up to this point.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
16. I was going for a quick and dirty explanation.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:47 PM
Sep 2015

Thanks for the details. Quite the circus. I hope she does release all of the emails.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
18. It almost appears
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:05 PM
Sep 2015

the case against her has been made to keep her quiet.

What are they afraid of? The legal beagles must be steeped in
this stuff.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
7. Here's what I posted in the Pennsylvania forum
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:51 PM
Sep 2015
Kane ready to drop a porn bomb on PA judges, state police & more
I think worse than the porn are the many racist and sexist comments included within the porn emails. Those few emails released earlier had names of senders and recipients redacted. Not this time, baby! She's really ripping the curtain back on what these guys really think of women and minorities. All names will be revealed. And thanks to Rachel, the nation is watching.

The Rachel Maddow Show 9/23/15
'There will be more porn': Pennsylvania scandal about to turn explicit.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/there-will-be-more-porn--scandals-new-turn-531242051822
(following are my comments, not Rachel's)
The state supreme court exceeded its powers and was without precedent in its action to strip an elected official, whose office requires a law license, of said license without due process of a trial and giving her the opportunity to present a defense. I don't know how the trial on charges filed against her may turn out, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY EVIDENCE, and neither have these supreme court justices! Give her her day in court, i.e., a trial, with full rights of appeal.

So I say, you go girl! to Attorney General Kane - and shine the harsh light of day on these government employees and elected officials who used state paid-for computers to spread not only pornography, but racist and sexist opinions.

And here's a link with more background
http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/pennsylvania/mc-pa-kathleen-kane-law-license-suspended-0922-20150922-story.html

padfun

(1,786 posts)
8. This will get good.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:55 PM
Sep 2015

Lots of high heads that can roll.

(She is pretty. PA and CA have good looking AG's)

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
12. In Terry Pratchett's delightful: "The Last Continent"
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:13 PM
Sep 2015

The citizens of Fourecks sent their politicians to jail as soon as they were elected -- it saved time later!

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
14. emails sent on government computers through government
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:02 PM
Sep 2015

email by government employees should be available for the public to review. Enjoy.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
19. Uh???
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:20 PM
Sep 2015

I just watched Rachel tonight 9/24. Did she forget about her "big" story tonight? Or, did I miss something, or is it just her over hyped headlines as usual??

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