Pic Of The Moment: Ben Carson On Gun Control

[EarlG]

Carson: Losing Gun Rights Is More 'Devastating' Than Bullet-Ravaged Body

Ben Carson Would Have Confronted Oregon Shooter

Ben Carson advocates arming kindergarten teachers

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[niyad]

1. benny boy, you are one disgusting pos. I wonder how cool and collected you would be if someone

were pointing a gun at you?

[spin]

56. I learned years ago in a jujitsu class that you only use the skills ...

you were learning when there is no other choice.

The instructor said "Look into your attacker's eyes as the eyes are the window of the soul. If you feel he intends to seriously injure or kill you, you have little or nothing to lose by resisting him."

Fortunately I have never had to use any of the skills I learned in the that class and I hope and pray I never will. It is also true that never having been in such as situation, I might end up on my knees praying to my attacker to not kill me.

However I do remember some of the skills I learned and feel that I might have some chance of disarming my attacker even if I ended up seriously injured. Of course now I am much older now and my physical conditioning is not what it was thirty years ago. I realize my limitations.

You often react as you have been trained. If you don't have some training, obviously your chances are considerably less as you will be trying to think of what you can do and may simply freeze under the stress. It is totally unfair to blame the people in the Oregon classroom of not trying to overwhelm the shooter. However it is true that they might have been able to swarm him and render him harmless if they would have been prepared. Some experts do suggest throwing items such as books and chairs at the attacker as you rush him.

There was recently an incident on a train in France where a terrorist was overwhelmed by three very brave Americans. Had they not been willing to put their lives on the line, many more people may have been murdered. I have great admiration for the courage these young men displayed.

[corkhead]

2. Let him have his day in the sun. He thinks the earth is 6000 years old.

I would imagine that is a disqualifier for most voters once they find out this little tidbit.

[niyad]

51. didn't, and doesn't, stop people from adoring the tundra grifter.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. He's a stupid ass, it's no wonder that he's polling well.

[AlbertCat]

4. Is it just me?.... or...

Do you believe he actually believes what he just spewed out of his cake hole?

I know they're SUPPOSED to say these kinds of things.... the NRA insists they do.

But in the real world, does anyone actually think this is some kind of way to deal with the problem or a solution?

It's just rhetoric.... clumsy bad rhetoric... that none of them would remember if they were in such a situation.


Too many movies.... too much TV. During the commercial break, the dead don't get up and find another show to work on. There is no commercial break.


As Laurie Anderson says in her song "Same Time Tomorrow"... (where she likes existence to a VCR)

Can we star all over again?
Stop!
Pause!

We're in "record"..."

[Initech]

5. To quote Bugs Bunny: "What a maroon!"

[Old Crow]

6. After his statement about "a body with bullet holes"...

... and his reminiscing about throwing rocks at cars growing up, I'm convinced Ben Carson has a screw loose upstairs. Seriously: There is something not right with this man's mind. Total lack of empathy mixed with a peculiar immaturity of thought. Very odd.

[rurallib]

7. comic book heroes run for president.

ETA - Ben, the Donald and to some extent seem to get their fantasies from comic books and *ACTION* movies and TV shows.

Much like John Wayne and The Gipper, Saint Ronald of Reagan both of whom came to believe they fought (and probably won) WWII they both spent it on the back lots of movies sets. I get the feeling that Republican get their world view not from Fox news but from comic books and TV shows where problems are solved in one issue or on segment and bad guys are dispensed with like so many misbehaving grade schoolers.

[Rafale]

8. Ah, not supporting the GOP but....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/06/zero-correlation-between-state-homicide-rate-and-state-gun-laws/

[barbtries]

12. of course you're supporting the GOP

sensible gun laws would result in less guns, and less guns means less lives lost to gun violence.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check

the GOP is completely in the pocket of the NRA, which does not give a rat's ass about any constitution, just the profits of the arms makers and dealers.

[Rafale]

13. Both parties are completely in the pocket of someone

Go Bernie. Wonder how many GOP'ers would call me a Socialist.

Somethings the world is not so black and white as either "you are for or against us."

Man, sometimes my countrymen just don't make any sense. Critical thinking and independent thought is almost dead as is science.

[barbtries]

15. people opposed to any form of gun control

in the face of all the gun violence in this country just don't make any sense. you need not respond again as i am putting you on ignore.

[Rafale]

16. I am grateful.

Thanks, albeit it was not my intention to upset you with a link to a Washington Post article.

[red dog 1]

39. + 1

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/02/gun_control_by_state_tougher_laws_mean_fewer_deaths.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/states-tough-gun-laws-shooting-deaths-study-article-1.2343815



As far as that WaPo article, "Zero correlation between state homicide rate & state gun laws",
it's a blog (opinion piece) by a pro-gun guy named Eugene Volokh.

According to Wikipedia:
"Volokh supported former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson in the 2008 presidential election, saying Thompson had good instincts on legal issues, and that he preferred Thompson's positions on the First Amendment and political speech to McCain's sponsorship of campaign finance reform.
Volokh also liked Thompson's position in favor of individual gun ownership."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Volokh

[underpants]

21. Between that nonsense and their "Fact Checker" WaPo is having a bad week

[Fred Sanders]

40. Ah, yes you are....and the GOP...and Carson, plain as day. And using Sanders for cover, to boot.

[Rafale]

59. Childish argument

You realize it I hope.

[Fred Sanders]

62. It was an observation, not an argument, Grasshopper!

[Rafale]

63. Nope, it was just an insult...

Pain and simple. I feel sorry for you. When a person does not have a compelling argument or a thoughtful manner, personal insults are all that's left. I certainly admire Senator Sanders approach to discourse and hopefully one day America will return to a more civil path.

[stonecutter357]

9. K&R!

[catbyte]

10. OMFG. Those comments are all the more despicable coming from a doctor.

[SwissTony]

11. My God. I can't express myself. n/t

[valerief]

14. Is everyone convinced this clown is a lunatic and not just some dreary version

of Mr. Rogers?

[Dickster]

17. Where do they find these idiots?

The last place a gun should be is in a classroom. If the teacher can get at the gun, believe me, so can the kids. Having a gun In a classroomis so unbelievably stupid, it's obvious he has never been around kids at all.

[Cha]

18. WTF happened to dr ben carson?! Didn't he use to be a famous pediatric surgeon?

And, now he's just an idiot making up shite as he goes along. what a shame.

[niyad]

52. neurosurgeon

[underpants]

19. Hey guys! ___ *BLAM*

Yeah I'm sure you know exactly what you would do.

[pamela]

47. Ha! You beat me to it.

I was going to let him get a few more words out in my version but that's exactly what would happen.

[NonMetro]

20. See What Happens? Ben Said The Prayer At The National Prayer Breakfast A couple Years Ago...

And it went straight to his head! Better cancel those prayer breakfasts before some other religious nut case decides to run for president!

[louis-t]

22. But does he go jogging with a Ruger 380?

That's a true conservative cred. I still say it won't be long before any gathering of conservative candidates will begin with shots being fired in the air.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. You sure this isn't Onion? So glad this guy is getting nuttier ! nt

[Enthusiast]

24. The guy is a dope.

[Bossy Monkey]

25. That's IT! I am NEVER going to Johns Hopkins for brain surgery! n/t

[LynneSin]

29. I have a rusty knife and a 4-pack of Dogfish Head 120. I probably be the better choice

Just sayinng

[ThingsGottaChange]

26. I really don't think

I can take much more of any of these stupid fucks!

[Agnosticsherbet]

27. Reality outdoes the onion.

[LynneSin]

28. On that 3rd item - who is going to pay to train and arm our kindergarten teachers?

We barely have the funds to operate our schools and provide funds along with properly paying our teachers. Now this idiot wants to provide all our teachers with a weapon and training so they can defend the school in the off chance there is a school shooting even though it has been shown that none of these mass-shootings have been stopped by random people caring their guns.

[Angry Dragon]

30. He should have stuck with cutting up brains

[Rocknrule]

31. Imagine the GOP outrage if someone said

"I've never seen an aborted fetus that was more devastating than taking away a woman's right to sovereignty over her own body"

[niyad]

53. I am stealing that!!!

[turbinetree]

32. Republican tin foil hat.....................

This is his quote;
"Dead bodies are no big deal, victims are to blame, let's arm the teachers"

Do you understand there Mr. Carson, how much this is going to cost the families financially, for the rest of there lives.
have you sat down and contemplated this little fact:

One, if married the other spouse will be forced to pay for the costs of the casket
Two -------------lets say this individual that is now dead, was making 50,000 a year and would have lived for over 70 years---------- $50,000 x 70 years = 3.5 million in lost income to the family
Three, just think there idiot, what do you think the family member now gets in Social Security benefits------------they get $250 dollars for funeral expenses.
Four, if they have a child, the child only gets social security death benefits until there eighteen
And just a reminder to your ilk ----------------------------the pain and suffering that these family members will have to endure for the rest of there lives.

So arming a teacher, to do what you think in your tin foil head should be like John Wayne reality of a movie, just shows how incompetent you really are, right along with your clown car buddies and there remarks



Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[BlueJazz]

33. I wouldn't want this guy President of the Squirrel Association

[3catwoman3]

49. It seems that he...

...already is.

[BlueJazz]

50. You got me!

Good one.

[Fritz Walter]

34. To paraphrase the immortal Will Rogers

Never miss a good chance to shut THE FUCK up.

[hopeforchange2008]

35. Bad lip reading's take on Carson

I'm sure this is posted elsewhere, but I dusted it off again today for it's fabulous interpretation of Carson's brain power. BLP captures him perfectly.

[barbtries]

45. i still can't think ben carson

without thinking every mouse has a wee wee

[packman]

66. That's funny - thanks for posting

[red dog 1]

36. K&R...Thanks for posting, EarlG

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"I would not just stand there and let him shoot me. I would say: 'Hey, guys,everybody attack him! He may shoot me, but he can't get us all'."

In reality, it would go more like: "Hey, guys, everybody attack....Uh, I've been hit!"

How can someone this stupid get through medical school?



Q- What do you call a doctor who finished 399th out of 400 in medical school?

A - Doctor.

[DhhD]

60. The scene would be that everybody rushes forward while Carson stays back and ducks

holding his hands up in front of his face just like in this debate sequence.

[AllyCat]

38. I guess people with bullets in their heads and spines

drum up business for him.

[d_legendary1]

41. I thought he was a Brain Surgeon

Not a Coroner.

[AllyCat]

43. Well, they don't all die.

Some are just maimed for life. And that's where he can make some cash fixin' 'em up!

[WinkyDink]

42. 1. "He can't get us all." Little men like to talk big. 2. "A body with bullet holes." Nice empathy

there, Doc.

3.) Teachers should have guns. So weaponry in a government building is fine with Carson.

[Stellar]

44. Yep, I can see teachers with a holster strapped to them now.

If the teacher locked up the gun in her desk, she'll have to have a kid to unlock the desk to get the gun out or just hope s/he can unlock it herself in time before he kills everyone in the class. What an azzhole that Carson is.

[BruceStern]

46. This guy would don a wig to get off the Titanic, give me a break.

[SoapBox]

48. I would never let this "doctor" near me...ever.

Doofus.

[SHRED]

54. And if it were his children with bullet holes?

What an asshole.

[SummerSnow]

55. He is definitely the president of S.A.M.F'rs

[Hulk]

57. Such a milk toast, nobody.

I thought they had hit the bottom of the barrel when they found jindal. Jesus....they just keep surprising me.

[trusty elf]

58. ......

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[niyad]

64. johnny is going to rise from his grave for that insult!!

like the little pic on the bottom--that is exactly what they are doing!

[trusty elf]

68. I hope Johnny can forgive me!

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[RussBLib]

61. saw a Republican focus group on MSNBC

and those idiots were all soooooo impressed with Carson.

"He's everything I have been looking for"

"thoughtful and intelligent"

Yeah, this country is deep in the woo woo voodoo septic tank

[lonestarnot]

65. No wonder this is Ruppert Murdock's candidate of choice. Nutwits to be controlled.

[C Moon]

67. A lame attempt at trying to look tough, plus keep the NRA in his back-pocket.

That's pretty heartless and soulless you bastard—oh wait, that IS the GOP.