Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
8 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
'Dinosaurs Among Us' Shows Evolutionary Link to Birds Wall Street Journal (Original Post) yuiyoshida Mar 2016 OP
A four chambered heart and warm blooded. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #1
20 points of proof Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #3
Check this out.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #7
Ya gotta know Plucketeer Mar 2016 #2
its so fun watching 'my' blue jays Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #4
I think about T Rex and Allosaurus and the lot Plucketeer Mar 2016 #5
Nice, but will Mr. Murdock be pleased? RW Xtian subscriptions will be cancelled. Punishment NCjack Mar 2016 #6
Murdock? Not this Murdock... yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #8

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
3. 20 points of proof
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

oelurosaurian dinosaurs are thought to be the closest relatives of birds, in fact, birds are considered to be coelurosaurs. This is based on Gauthier's and others' cladistic analyses of the skeletal morphology of these animals. Bones are used because bones are normally the only features preserved in the fossil record. The first birds shared the following major skeletal characteristics with many coelurosaurian dinosaurs (especially those of their own clade, the Maniraptora, which includes Velociraptor):

Pubis (one of the three bones making up the vertebrate pelvis) shifted from an anterior to a more posterior orientation (see Saurischia), and bearing a small distal "boot".
Elongated arms and forelimbs and clawed manus (hands).
Large orbits (eye openings in the skull).
Flexible wrist with a semi-lunate carpal (wrist bone).
Hollow, thin-walled bones.
3-fingered opposable grasping manus (hand), 4-toed pes (foot); but supported by 3 main toes.
Reduced, posteriorly stiffened tail.
Elongated metatarsals (bones of the feet between the ankle and toes).
S-shaped curved neck.
Erect, digitgrade (ankle held well off the ground) stance with feet postitioned directly below the body.
Similar eggshell microstructure.
Teeth with a constriction between the root and the crown.
Functional basis for wing power stroke present in arms and pectoral girdle (during motion, the arms were swung down and forward, then up and backwards, describing a "figure-eight" when viewed laterally).
Expanded pneumatic sinuses in the skull.
Five or more vertebrae incorporated into the sacrum (hip).
Straplike scapula (shoulder blade).
Clavicles (collarbone) fused to form a furcula (wishbone).
Hingelike ankle joint, with movement mostly restricted to the fore-aft plane.
Secondary bony palate (nostrils open posteriorly in throat).
Possibly feathers... this awaits more study. Small, possibly feathered dinosaurs were recently found in China. It appears that many coelurosaurs were cloaked in an external fibrous covering that could be called "protofeathers."

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
2. Ya gotta know
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

a Plucketeer has keen interests in this thinking! We share our home with four descendants of dinosaurs!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
5. I think about T Rex and Allosaurus and the lot
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

when I get to see one of the BIG hawks we have here - swoop down on some unsuspecting seed-sucker. I have to wonder how long I (with my infirmities) would last against these hawk's progenitors. LOL - I'd be L O N G gone!

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
6. Nice, but will Mr. Murdock be pleased? RW Xtian subscriptions will be cancelled. Punishment
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 03:05 PM
Mar 2016

will be visited on the WSJ staff. A simple retraction or rebuttal will be insufficient. Heads will roll.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
8. Murdock? Not this Murdock...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016


oooooooooooh you mean Rupert... I would love to see Matt Murdock vs Rupert Mudock!
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Video & Multimedia»'Dinosaurs Among Us' Show...