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Bill Clinton seems to be wrecking the campaign trail for Hillary Clinton, but is his support really a net positive for her? Ring of Fires Farron Cousins discusses this.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)I 'spect I'll be angry for days about the lack of control and accountability for Wall Street and the Great Recession debacle and all the ruined lives it left in it's wake - just in this country.
cprise
(8,445 posts)And the fact that they campaigned as a team, "two for the price of one" ...etc.
Hillary also controlled Bill's cabinet: Anyone she didn't like had to go.
That makes her culpable for the mistakes of Bill's administration.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)TBF
(32,060 posts)but I don't think she'd be where she is without him. She's obviously very bright and law degree from Yale. With Hillary though I don't see the charisma that folks need to get into politics on their own. I personally think she would have made it as a trailblazing female partner (at her age those female partners were the first ones to break through in the top law firms and actually be paid as much as men - or close anyway). I worked for someone very much like her many years ago. And she actually did help the women coming up behind her. I could see Hillary doing that.
cprise
(8,445 posts)him back in the whitehouse as some non-official entity.
He tells people to eat pulverized insects. That's the kind of expectations the Clintons have for America.
ffr
(22,670 posts)Ranked in 2015 as the 8th best president in United States history. The guy that worked tirelessly as a public servant. Created 22 million jobs. The guy that took the biggest deficit in U.S. history and turned it into the biggest surplus in history. The same guy that, due to all of his accomplishments, said that state of the union has never been better, something no other president has been able to say, before or since.
The guy's a champion. There's a reason why she has him stumping for her. She's smart. He draw crowds. There's a rock star vibe about the guy. If he could, I'm sure he'd spin gold from straw.
SCantiGOP
(13,870 posts)He would have won in 2000.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)a public stand during the Monica fiasco and saying "I asked Pres. C. and he told me he did not have an affair with her" (or something similar). It would have been a million times worse than Gore's statement "I'm the father of the Internet."
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)And why would anyone expect him to answer in this way? Find me the the reference to his EVER saying, "I am the father of the Internet," please. Oh, wait---I think what he actually said was "Luke, I am your father."
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yep. She's been riding his coattails from the beginning.
SCantiGOP
(13,870 posts)The Father of the Internet.
Minor point, but that was nothing more than a GOP talking point.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)undeniable fact that he was a foolish asshole ( and took stupid chances while knowing the Repugs were out for his blood) about the Lewinsky thing. A more sadly jaded public, raised with all the revelations about a still "revered" JFK, and the hypocrisy of many of the holier than thou Republicans caught with their pants down, just never had their hearts into crucifying him, much as Ken Starr and company might have wished it. Meanwhile Europeans, much more realistic about equating personal sexual misconduct with governing abilities, thought we were nuts. And we'd already been hammered with the Whitewater thing, while, in the next administration, Cheney skated away with murder in his Halliburton associations and carelessly shot a friend in the face. Democrats have never, luckily for the GOP, been much into making mountains out of molehills to villlify their political opponents. Now it seems that we'll never hear the end of Benghazi! if Hillary is the candidate.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).... is Hillary. (and her record)
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)A young woman with a torn blouse is seen running down a hallway, soon a man who happens to look a lot like Bill Clinton is seen rounding a corner and running after her with an evil leer on his lips.
The crawl across the screen says: "Do we want this in the White House again?"
The ads will almost write themselves.
SCantiGOP
(13,870 posts)Hope you aren't planning on a career as a film maker.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Of course, all the women "were scared of his power over their jobs," Having been somewhat of a "corporate wife" for quite a while, and having worked myself in circumstances somewhat co-equal to men (no worries that resisting being "hit on" might affect my job), I know that men in various positions of power often get pursued willingly by young women who work for and around them. At the risk of being pilloried for bringing this up, the way- out-dated assumption that sweet young virgins (not that many around these days) are constantly pursued by slavering older bosses is a little dramatic. Just as common are the broken marriages and "starter wives" left behind (and yeah, I've been there). My own daughter (now pushing forty) led me to suspect, in her mid-twenties, that she was involved with her older boss. Twice married and divorced, he was free, to give him credit. They were involved, but are supposedly " just friends" now and still work well together. In the interim she had one other long-term relationship. I"ll admit that my own sensibilities (more so than morals) wouldn't be comfortable with that, but (even though I'm an early baby boomer) times change. No one is in more of a desirable position of power than the POTUS. A no brainer for "getting women."
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)campaign. That should tell you everything. I have read her story and I don't believe her.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)HRC will be gone a lot, there is no one to keep him in tow. And he does need it. He isn't as sharp as he was, he's making huge blunders and had two rallies cancel because of low turnout somewhere in the south, then there was Bullhorn Bill.
She wouldn't be where she is without him and she won't make it there with him.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)I don't know that in any way, I just noticed that he seemed to have changed a lot right around then.