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Related: About this forumHillary Campaign Threatens Withholding Debates Over Bernie's "Tone"
OK, where are these 'negative' ads Bernie's campaign is supposedly running?
ladjf
(17,320 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Aha! David Brock releases a post impugning Bernie's relationship with Jane, a clear personal smear whose "tone" is reprehensible by any standard.
Hillary is a fucking hypocrite.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Hillary is winning: you should be a little more gracious
to her.
longship
(40,416 posts)Brock's smarmy attack on Bernie came the same day that Hillary impugned Bernie's campaign "tone" as an excuse to dodge the a NYC debate.
Apparently HRC supporters have irony deficiency disorder in not seeing this.
And yes, David Brock is a major HRC campaign operative. He runs one of her PACs. That's where she gets her dough. Well, there and the big corporations like big banks on Wall Street, oil cos, private prison corps, etc.
My question is how can anybody support such a thing?
I will vote for her if she gets the nom, but it will likely be the toughest vote of my life, and I am not young (born in the 40's).
And I will thank you for not responding to facts with the claim of "typical of Sanders people." I am not typical in anything I do.
And if I want to curse, I will fucking curse. Just like John Dos Passos said. Live with it.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)stellanoir
(14,881 posts)mellifluous voices and impeccable hearing can truly arbitrate tonality.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)This is what they sound like:
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)If you play the initial video of the OP, then start THIS sound track!!!
Spot ON!
FourScore
(9,704 posts)Had to open 2 windows to do it...LMAO!!
Too funny. I actually feel a little immature now, but it was worth it.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)That'll wear off after the next news cycle...
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)You should be willing to debate...... wait for it...... ANYTIME - ANYWHERE.
So, what IS the right and proper parse procedure here? Anyone? Anyone from the cloistered HRC group?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Sanders is losing so he is going negative: Hillary
should take the higher road, and work to bring Dem's
together.
Give us a link. Show us one ad or statement Sanders has made that can rightfully be called "negative".
And please, spare us any comment that questions Clinton's record. Questioning a candidate's record is not negative. Or is Hillary Clinton the only one who is allowed to say things like: Where was Bernie when I was saving health care?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)not a gracious to Hillary winning.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)You are the gift that keeps on giving!
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)You would sell the out for Sanders
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)... much less of what constitutes aa dangerous ideologue, based on that ignorant response.
Wibly
(613 posts)I asked you for even one link that demonstrates how Bernie has been negative.
Crickets.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Just HOW IS simply echoing the facts, negative??? Admittedly, some facts can FEEL like a negative thing - but they're really innocent of any maliciousness, because they are what they are?
For instance: Who could argue that if you land in what's possibly hostile territory - what's the smartest way to avoid the looming threat of sniper fire? The factually smart way would be to de-plane in quick fashion and run for your armored transport with your head down.
Fact is - when madame Secretary was in this very situation a few years back, while visiting Bosnia, she showed immense bravado by gingerly walking off the C-17 to shake hands with local luminaries - graciously receive a bunch of flowers and listen to kids sing. Then after some smiling photo-ops with a troop of GIs, she casually walked to the HumVee she was to be transported in. Those aren't really flattering facts - when compared to her account of what happened, but they're facts, nonetheless.
Another fact is that while Dame Hillary is bloviating to Wisconsin about the EVILS of big money in politics - she does so on the very heels of YUUUUUGE fund-raiser dinner at George Clooney's house this weekend. While her words and her actions seem at odds with one another, they're just facts. There's nothing inherently negative about them.
Reminds me of the old line from the Dragnet TV series: The facts mam - just the facts.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)narrative toward Hillary. Hillary has a large body of political
history: one cannot no use clip notes out of context to tell
a story about her.
She has been on the national stage since she was in her 20's:
the way Sanders people string facts together they could
make Hillary look like "Aids" was all her fault since she was
alive at the time.
The problems of money in politics has always been part of
politics, there is nothing new: There is no evidence that
Hillary did anything ever than work for the people and not
corporations.
Sanders people treat politics like a religion; it not: politics
is about comprise to move the country forward for all of us.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I've traded quips with you before - and afterwards, I've chastised myself for picking on a disadvantage sort.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)soundly,
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Obama was behind going into the convention until the superdelegates flipped to him.
Expect that to happen again since many came out for her before Bernie even announced.
Sanders is gaining ground, not losing it.
To think Hillary supporters were saying it was over a week ago and Bernie should drop out.
navarth
(5,927 posts)Up to you of course....but...oh well
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)I think it just encourages them but I won't be a party pooper since it's obvious you know what you're doing.
Enjoy.
revbones
(3,660 posts)corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)So, HRC "has been tested" but Sanders has not? Mrs. "Ready-To-Lead-On-Day-One" expects us to nominate her to go toe-to-toe with Putin but she won't debate a friend on account of her thin skin?
http://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/new-york-debate