Barbra Streisand Thinks Calling Out Hillary's Corruption Is Sexist

[phazed0]

Double-think at its best.

[SoapBox]

1. Blah, blah, blah Babs.

Entrenched Elite Establishment at it's finest.

[lewebley3]

17. Barbara is right: Sanders people are dishonest: I don't trust Sanders

[Chasstev365]

2. Who FUCKING Cares What Barbara Streisand or Sarah Silverman Think?

Does anyone?

[upaloopa]

3. Bernie is corrupt

[sulphurdunn]

4. Hillary is so corrupt

she gives merely corrupt people a bad name.

[lewebley3]

19. I don't trust Sander: he is nothing but hot air: I think his money is coming from GOP

[sulphurdunn]

69. And the Pope is a Protestant

[lewebley3]

71. Sorry just don't trust Sanders

[Phlem]

94. You should be sorry, try a little fucking research before you share lies.

[lewebley3]

96. I have kown Sanders 25. years : Nothing new about him

[Phlem]

99. Same for Hillary and she redefines herself whenever

Necessary.

Great for you now, oops can't get that done later. The Thirdway have been in Control since before Bill Clinton for the *Democrats* as the middle class have been decimated.

Remember this?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/13/joe-biden-middle-class-devastated-clinton-years/?page=all

How's Clinton going to fix that as President.

Good luck with that.

[Phlem]

100. OK so it should be something like the "TPP will create jobs

in the US and lift up the middle class."

Close?

[sulphurdunn]

108. I've known Sander for 100 years,

and he is as honest as a century is long.

[Phlem]

93. OMFG.

You're worse than my conservative Trump loving brother in law.

Yesterday he was "Bernie's got a corporation that he's going to use to write off his donations and keep the money all for himself."

Fucking really?

Try a thirty second search for it on the intertubes and see what you can find. If it's true it should be all over the place with the google.

Yet when you do a search you don't find shit.

WTF, making shit up is all ya got anymore.

People love Bernie on both sides for the simple reason that Bernie is honest. He's going to get $20 donations from everyone under the sun.

But yea, you go on with That Conspiracy Theory.

Holy shit. I can't believe the shit that comes out of Hillary supporters.

[lewebley3]

97. No: just dont want Sanders:

[Phlem]

98. Mkay

don't want the third way for the third time expecting different results.

So that would be "NO" on Republican-lite Hillary Clinton.

[lewebley3]

107. Hillary Clinton is the only Dem running: Sanders is not a Dem!

[Phlem]

109. The funny thing is you think she's a Dem.

Sorry but the party said could run as a Dem. So it's OK, I know your sad but he's more of a Dem any day over Hillary.

Derp.

[lewebley3]

112. Sanders was too elitis to be a Dem : that. is why poor Dem's reject him

[Phlem]

113. uh huh. Okee Dokee.

Or he couldn't stomach Thirdway Oligarchy and wasn't going to support it.

You know, like the rest of us who have been paying attention for the last 30+ years.

Elitist, like the lady running for President who would like to keep her $3000 + per head speeches to Goldman Sachs a secret?

Bernie is Elitist, what a fucking joke.

[lewebley3]

114. The poor and minorities. and real progressives of the Dem party

are voting for Hillary. They knows Sanders campaign it's about
rich mostly white elitist c complaining about Oligarchy and not
having free college. Hillary is about everyone!

Like actress Susan S.: Sanders supporters would watch
the American people suffering under Trumps and. the GOP:as they
did under Bush.

Sanders people are just too selfish to be progressives
Also. if the Dem's don't win the GOP will take this country
to war against Iran. They were willing commit treason by conducting
their own Foreign policy behind Obamas back.

Go Hillary

[Phlem]

115. "They knows Sanders campaign it's about rich mostly white elitist

complaining about Oligarchy and not having free college. Hillary is about everyone!"

First off, this comment is like a snake eating it's own tale.

"it's about rich mostly white elitist complaining about Oligarchy and not
having free college."

So rich white elitists are complaining about not having free college? What hamburger logic is that?
According to said sentence, you're saying I'm rich because I support Bernie and I want free college? Sorry, paid for my college then Bill turned around and shipped my job overseas.
Show me where "it's about rich mostly white elitist complaining about Oligarchy and not
having free college."

Please point out the reference that has everybody's minds made up. Maybe I'll change mine.

But secretly, I think you're frustrated no one's biting your phishing.

She has the most experience?

Here's one from her first attempt, a goody from 2008. Gotta love history man, really show the long term character of a person.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4836695

6 years before you even showed up here yet your an aficionado.

[lewebley3]

59. Hillary is honest

[sulphurdunn]

70. And Elvis lives!

[lewebley3]

72. If Hillary were not honest: she would not have survived all the attacks on her

[sulphurdunn]

77. In logic this is called the a false cause fallacy.

You assume she is honest and then justify that position by suggesting she would not still be running otherwise. From that, one can infer that everyone who has dropped out is dishonest and everyone still in the race must be honest. That's pretty hard to defend.

[pnwmom]

88. People have been trying and failing to prove Hillary's dishonest for DECADES.

She's proven her honesty far more than most people ever have to.

[Phlem]

95. with Santa!

[redstateblues]

102. Still waiting on proof of quid pro quo

Another Baseless smear

[tartan2]

6. Be specific please, how is Bernie corrupt?

[upaloopa]

8. I say so

Just like you all say Hillary is corrupt

[nichomachus]

11. But there is ample evidence of Mrs. Clinton's corruption

Maybe it will all become clear when she releases the transcripts of her multi-million dollar sweetheart speeches to the boys on Wall Street.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

18. WHOOSH! Right over the top of their heads!

[lewebley3]

21. No evidence of Hillary corruption: If she was the GOP would be all over it!

[Politicalboi]

42. Don't worry, it's coming

And it's the FBI not the GOP. Clinton's worked with Blackwater. Talk about corrupt.

[lewebley3]

43. That has been said since the Clinton were in Akansas: Clinton's didn't work for Blackwater

[Politicalboi]

56. They are or were working with Blackwater

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/money/top-donors-clinton-foundation-include-saudis-blackwater-article-1.357326

Donations from Blackwater went to Clinton foundation. I wonder what favor they needed?

[lewebley3]

61. What you said is a smear not evidence of corruption with the Clinton foundation

[navarth]

63. shouldn't feed trolls, my friend

[greymouse]

82. lewebley3

1/4 $mil per speech to Wall Street. If that's not corrupt, the prostitute on the corner is a virgin.

[daleanime]

26. +1

[lewebley3]

60. No evidence of HIllary corrupt: just a lot propaganda from Sanders people

[AlbertCat]

13. Just like you all say Hillary is corrupt

Yeah, but we have things like on-going FBI investigations and huge donations from the worst of Wall Street and connections to fracking and private prisons and such to ponder when making such an assessment.

You've got....?

[upaloopa]

16. You have an opinion

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

20. Tee-hee, you are funny!

[AlbertCat]

23. You have an opinion

Yes...an opinion based on actual things.

What is yours based on? Gender? Group-think? "I know you are but what am I?" Nothing?

[upaloopa]

34. Not actual things just a paradigm you see her through

The Hillary you all invented here doesn't exist

[Politicalboi]

46. You just don't want to see it

She invented herself. You guys don't care how she may have talked about the 99% to Wall Street. We care. You think we want those transcripts just to bash her. Don't you want to know if there were deals made? You trust her, but we don't. She'll support TPP, private prisons, fracking to mention a few. It's HER record.

[nichomachus]

10. Please elaborate

Or I will just consider this more feces flinging from Mrs. Clinton's juvenile gang.

[liberalnarb]

14. Reasons, examples...?

[Phlem]

92. Oh the irony!

[Scootaloo]

101. In-depth analysis you've got there.

Goes well with your seven hides.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Celebrities are entitled to their opinions, just like everybody else.

And I am entitled to give those opinions the weight they deserve. The fact that somebody appears on my teevee from time to time does not make him or her any more believable than the guy who stands on a street corner yelling about the second coming or chemtrails.

[tartan2]

7. Oh Barbra don't go wading into this mess.

[lewebley3]

22. Barbara is right to speak out against the Sander negative attacks on Hillary

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

25. I'm still waiting for an example of his "negative attacks". Pretty please, with sugar on top?

[lewebley3]

29. Listen Sander speeches: He attacks the whole Dem party: the Dem party should

not have anything to do with him: in fact no Dem Senators are supporting
Sanders not even Patick Leahy.

[Pauldg47]

33. And she can't attack him because she can't find anything....do you know anything?....

....listen to his speeches!!!!!?????

[lewebley3]

36. Hillary is being graciously in winning: It is too bad Sanders is going to lose without

class.

[lewebley3]

40. Sanders could be torn about, if any politician want to go against him:

but since he has no chance to be the nominee, why would anyone
attack him.

Hillary, knows she will need Sanders and every vote she can get
to beat Trump.


The Dem party really Decided along time ago they wanted Hillary!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

37. You better have a link - I think you are exaggerating or making it up out of whole cloth.

[daleanime]

44. So don't brother worrying about whether it right or wrong?

If a 'D'emocrat does it it must be OK?

[lewebley3]

48. I do worry about right or wrong: Dem's are right: Sander is wrong and bashing

of people who are working hard against the GOP.

[daleanime]

55. Complete disagreement, how is just as important as why.

If you eliminate hunger by producing more food, you have done good. If you eliminate hunger by killing half the population, you have done bad. Evil in service of any cause is still evil.

[SunSeeker]

38. No, it is the evidence-free inuendo that donations to Hillary influence her.

Instead of sticking to talking about the issues, Sanders talks about her "obscene" donations and speaking fees.

[daleanime]

45. Now, can you tell me what the problem with that argument is?

[SunSeeker]

53. Can you tell me why you have no problem with evidence-free inuendo?

[daleanime]

62. If you require perfectly documented quid pro quo before any action....

which is what you're doing, you eliminate any chance of stopping any form of political corruption. You're willing to do that just to get one presidential candidate? That's kind of short sighted. But have a lovely day anyways.

[SunSeeker]

64. Accusations of corruption require evidence, not perfection.

I don't think the framers of our Constitution, in requiring a presumption of innocence, were "short sighted."

[Politicalboi]

47. Telling the truth is negative?

That's Hillary's fault and record. If you guys don't care about the truth, then you support the right candidate. Bernie or Bust!!!!!

[lewebley3]

51. You don't tell the truth about Hillary's record: Hillary record is so good people want

her to be President.

[AlbertCat]

9. Isn't that special.

Don't rain on her parade.

[nichomachus]

12. The trouble with Babs

Is that she doesn't see a problem with $600,000 secret speeches to Wall St. Babs can find that much in her sofa cushions.

[Politicalboi]

49. And that's on a bad day

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

15. I bet it would be Ok if it was Bernie's corruption.

These feminists are way over the line. They are taking feminism back 20 years with this bullshit.

[lewebley3]

24. Bernie is corrupt with the gun lobby

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

28. F rating from the NRA?

[lewebley3]

30. He is with the gun lobby and voting with them whatever the grade: by Sanders

peoples standards that makes Bernie corrupt

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

32. Is english your secondor third language? I have no idea what you just said.

[lewebley3]

54. You understood what I said:

[Politicalboi]

50. Look up Blackwater

If you think the gun lobby is bad, these guys are our ISIS and they donate to the Clinton Foundation.

[lewebley3]

52. Oh stop with smearing: The Clinton foundation is a very successful charity

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

87. Man - Naive is the only world I can say without a hide.

[lewebley3]

91. You are just a. political hack

A

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

106. Il take that as a complement coming from you!

[beam me up scottie]

80. You don't get the whole grade system, do you?

See if Bernie was "with them" he would have an A or even a B grade but he doesn't. And he never did.

That's like saying a D minus grade in high school makes you valedictorian.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

85. bye

[SunSeeker]

39. No, D-, which means he agrees with them on some revolting things. Like the PLCAA.

The NRA helped Bernie get in Congress, running attack ads against his opponent. Once in, Bernie voted against the Brady Bill 5 times.

[AlbertCat]

35. corrupt with the gun lobby

"With" it?

Anyway....

That tired old debunked lie.

[beam me up scottie]

79. He's never taken a dime from them. You're not very good at this are you?

David Brock called, he said to tell you to keep your day job.

[redgreenandblue]

27. How utterly dumb. nt

[oldandhappy]

41. Oh my, a sad thread.

[stupidicus]

57. stardom doesn't prevent indefensible idiocy

and you don't have to be a star to attempt defending such idiocy either.

[Rebkeh]

58. Huh? We call out corrupt men all the time,

it's just that they are usually on the other side of the aisle, it seems like some kind of new thing when we do it now. Nothing new about it at all.

[MrMickeysMom]

65. THIS THREAD wins hands down!

... The most sophomoric example EVER of people actually needing people...

[felix_numinous]

66. No: NOT calling out corruption because someone is a woman is sexist

treating someone with kid gloves, watching our "tone" and looking the other way while someone packs away arms deal money, and makes secret undisclosed banker deals is sexist. Wanting just any woman to be president is sexist.

I didn't like this same behavior with Bush&Co and I don't like it when HRC&Co do the same thing. See it is equal.

[Zen Democrat]

67. I've always liked Hillary, but this is why I support Bernie ...

She's for fracking

She's for the death penalty

She's for keeping marijuana as a Schedule I narcotic, the same as heroin

She's never met a war she didn't like

She supports for-profit prisons

She gets advice from Henry Kissinger

There are a few more. I'll vote for Hill if she's the nominee. But Bernie is an FDR Democrat and Hillary is a WJC Democrat. YUGE difference.

[BainsBane]

68. Earning a salary that is legal is not corruption

It is not illegal and it is not corrupt. If people actually gave a shit about corporate influence, they wouldn't defend Bernie's on again, off again support of blanket immunity for gun corporations, or the $1 trillion plus to Lockheed Martin.

They wouldn't ignore his fundraising from Wall Street investment banks or his claims to not have super pacs when he has them.
http://time.com/4261350/bernie-sanders-super-pac-alaska-millenials/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/sanders-record-filings-show-benefits-from-super-pacs-links-to-wall-street-donors-1455300881

That people argue that Clinton is corrupt for earning money is in fact part of an atmosphere of vilification that is sexist. That they insist women who support her of voting "for the vagina," when Clinton is in fact an extremely well qualified candidate and her competitor has the second worst record in congress in terms of legislative accomplishments most certainly is sexist. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357/report-card/2015
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357/report-card/2014

Her detractors refuse to as much as look at her policy positions. That is how little they care about actual issues.

That Clinton is vilified more than Republicans and murderous dictators show that the vitriol against her has nothing to do with her actual record or policy proposals and everything to do with what she represents: a woman who seeks to be president, following on the heels of an African American president. A number of Democratic voters see what is going on, which may be why people of color and especially African American women are resounding supporting Clinton with their votes.

Then when we see people who claim to care about progressive principles argue that Trump would be better, it exposes precisely what their goals truly are.

[felix_numinous]

73. And the same people who vilified Bush&Co turning a blind eye

to the very same behavior from a woman are demonstrating sexism. I get that we need women in power, but we need a woman who will oppose the patriarchy not one who is indoctrinated into it.

[wilt the stilt]

74. IMHO Barbar is acting like a person who has

been in many ways a "second class" citizen. You always hear conservatives say "Why do African Americans always bring race into any discussion"?. Well its because race is always part of their lives 24/7. The same applies for women. They always see any slight quite often as sexism because it affects them every day.

How many times do you think Streisand has heard how homely she is as perceived by the mainstream.

In her eyes it is always sexism.

Barbara has been a great democrat for a long time. She probably sees Bernie as not a democrat and she is right.

[greymouse]

83. Bernie has Democratic principles. Hillary and DWS have Republican principles.

[wilt the stilt]

84. and why is this response relevant to my post n/t

[Phlem]

75. That's exactly what I think when males are called out for

........WTF!

Corruption is corruption, it affects everyone but the rich who can financially weather it or usually profit from it.

What fucking planet is she on?

[onecaliberal]

76. Trash thread.... stupid is as stupid does.

[Thespian2]

78. As if I needed one more reason to dislike Barbra...

I very happy she shared her opinion...I can now add it to my list of things I dislike...

[greymouse]

81. As an old feminist, I think

a bunch of other old feminists have gone nuts. Why they would support a lying, corrupt, incompetent person like Clinton just because she's female is beyond me. They are just plain stupid or uninformed.

[Crowman1979]

89. Kind of like when all the dumbass redneck Talabangelists voted for Bush.

Because he was one of them.

It like a damn HS president vote. Which is basically a popularity contest.

[rock]

86. I love how this guy takes 4 minutes (or so)

To not address the issue.

[jeremyfive]

90. Particularly Immature Reporting

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This particularly immature and fluffy reporting. And typical of progressive sing-song.

I maybe could get interested in the progressive movement if they would accomplish something. Anything. Anything at all. Something. Still waiting. . .

Blasting a longtime liberal champion such as Barbra Streisand is particularly dumbfounding. After you accomplish something, maybe you can convince me to shoot myself in the foot, too.

[riversedge]

104. The host using the word corruption feeds right in RW and some Sanders fans ideology when

it comes to Hillary.

[Phlem]

110. But not Hillary huh.

She's pure as snow! I know, let's call her Snow White the inevitable Queen!

She's not a politician, she's a freaking angel with wings that can do no wrong. Just look at her history, I don't see any problems. I mean compare Bernieis history to her's, clearly he's Satan, look at all his baggage. Why he's done absolutely nothing for anybody.

Sanders is secretly a Republican, look at his positions! Why can't Sanders supporters see the secret code that gives him away as the meaniest Republican EVA!!!!

Okee Doh kee.

What an overflowing bullshit waterfall.

Just a fucking joke. But blah blah blah, she'll bring jobs with the TPP, blah blah blah blah, you know just like NAFTA, blah blah blah.

Just effing ridiculous to nth degree.

Hey, I've got a yellow brick paved bridge for sale, cheap.

She's said everything Sanders said but her words are true-ier aren't they, automagically!

Yeay Third way zombies, they'll make everything better. Look at the last 16 years with Bill and Barack, everything's been running so smoothly, middle class is dying and we have endless wars!

So freaking pathetic.

[Maedhros]

105. I can accomplish something!

I can ignore your bullshit!

/ignore list.

[Phlem]

111. Extremely immature, incomplete, unresearched analysis.

See I get to say stuff too!

Oooo long time Democrat = good.

non Democrat = bad

Democrats are always perfect forever plus infinity.

I guess you're going to tell me it couldn't get any simpler.

Nice to know your a Non Progressive that supports a Progressive, at least that's what the DNC and the media swears she is.

[riversedge]

103. She wrote a wonderful column in the Huff Post Thank you Barbra. She did not hit

on Sanders but spoke of some of Hillary's accomplishments and did hit on TRUMP