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Clinton Angrily Defends Paid Speeches, Defiant On Releasing Transcripts (Original Post) mhatrw Apr 2016 OP
Let's face it - what else can she do? If she releases them jwirr Apr 2016 #1
Maybe the transcripts n can be found in the basement with Bernie's taxes? apcalc Apr 2016 #6
Or Hillary's missing millions as reported & printed in Forbes! Omaha Steve Apr 2016 #56
Two words: BeanMusical Apr 2016 #62
She's being so evasive for a reason Baobab Apr 2016 #19
I have absolutely no doubts that discussions about the TPP are in transcripts. Bubzer Apr 2016 #36
Yeah ... Jopin Klobe Apr 2016 #41
the wite noise machine was incredibly stupid roguevalley Apr 2016 #23
Yeah, unbelievable. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #64
Well, to be honest. She doesn't play both sides.... daleanime Apr 2016 #26
Okay I accept that. I was thinking about worshiping money. jwirr Apr 2016 #35
Hillary is right to say no to a double stanard:Sanders wont release lewebley3 Apr 2016 #30
What's a stanard? BeanMusical Apr 2016 #40
Do you know how to use googlr lewebley3 Apr 2016 #43
What's a googlr? BeanMusical Apr 2016 #53
your post was moot lewebley3 Apr 2016 #55
Do you even know what the word moot means? BeanMusical Apr 2016 #57
And when he does, what'll be the reason she won't at that time? greiner3 Apr 2016 #44
What about Hillary's medical records then? Omaha Steve Apr 2016 #65
It's another manufactured crisis by the extremists - left and right. There's nothing wrong with Lil Missy Apr 2016 #2
Really manufactured by her. revbones Apr 2016 #5
To quote Forrest, "Stupid is as stupid votes." Hoppy Apr 2016 #29
Sanders has secrect taxes he wont release lewebley3 Apr 2016 #32
Oh wow, please tell me more. Sounds fascinating. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #45
Secret taxes...... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #51
I know, right? BeanMusical Apr 2016 #54
So if he releases them, you'll call for the speeches to be released too then? nt revbones Apr 2016 #59
Yep. It's just supply and demand. There is a large supply of money to bribe potential mhatrw Apr 2016 #10
+1000! BeanMusical Apr 2016 #46
I'll take your +1000 and raise you +1000 Duckfan Apr 2016 #67
Cool! BeanMusical Apr 2016 #68
Self enrichment with connections gained on public office jonestonesusa Apr 2016 #24
If she was just selling herself, that would be great.... daleanime Apr 2016 #27
Supply and demand. Are you kidding me. Really? I don't care what she got paid. YOHABLO Apr 2016 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author apcalc Apr 2016 #3
Damn right apcalc Apr 2016 #4
The longer she protests and refuses, the more obvious it becomes she made specific promises to GS DJ13 Apr 2016 #7
exactly 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #8
that IS the question isn't it? ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #14
You NAILED IT! Plucketeer Apr 2016 #16
The lady (and her fans) doth protest too much. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #58
Hello! Paging New York! Duckfan Apr 2016 #70
since releasing the transcripts would make this go away, it shows that there is something to hide tomm2thumbs Apr 2016 #9
I am starting to feel bad for her... her trouble has just started yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #11
I've got a great idea! Just make the transcripts to the 3 Goldman speeches and let the downeastdaniel Apr 2016 #12
no. ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #15
K&R jwirr Apr 2016 #22
HILLARY: "i WON'T DO THE RIGHT THING UNLESS... Herman4747 Apr 2016 #13
Perfect! Plucketeer Apr 2016 #17
Apparently the title or phrase "Public Service" is not understood Duckfan Apr 2016 #69
God she's horrible. Schema Thing Apr 2016 #18
She really is. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #42
+1 MissDeeds Apr 2016 #47
She has my no confidence vote Geronimoe Apr 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #21
This also highlights the difference between Hillary and Bernie dorkzilla Apr 2016 #25
^^^^ This! ^^^^ Jackilope Apr 2016 #38
This has always been a part of the Clinton playbook KentuckyWoman Apr 2016 #50
As a business woman/owner the fake victim thing makes me SO FUCKING ANGRY dorkzilla Apr 2016 #61
wish you'd post that as an OP KentuckyWoman Apr 2016 #76
SPOT ON! Plucketeer Apr 2016 #73
HRC - You Took The Money - Live With It - Retire Already - And Leave The Real Work To The 99% cantbeserious Apr 2016 #28
Hiding speeches, hiding e-mails, hiding azmom Apr 2016 #31
And her minions wonder why we call her untrustworthy. Duckfan Apr 2016 #71
Now THAT was a squirrelly answer. And then, oh poor me, everyone's piling on me FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #33
For years we said Republicans were bought and paid for. 86derps Apr 2016 #34
Good, good, Hillary. Maedhros Apr 2016 #37
"I'm not doing it cause they didn't do it" isn't a winning argument for a presidential candidate. Bubzer Apr 2016 #39
She sounds very angry here... Helen Borg Apr 2016 #48
And She is the Best We Can Do? mckara Apr 2016 #49
Kick and R BeanMusical Apr 2016 #52
Way to lead by example, Hill! drokhole Apr 2016 #60
Here are the speeches transcripts: ALittleBirdie Apr 2016 #63
Lol! BeanMusical Apr 2016 #66
Exactly! Duckfan Apr 2016 #72
Hopefully, when the Repukes finally release the text, these transcripts do not make Clinton look mhatrw Apr 2016 #75

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
1. Let's face it - what else can she do? If she releases them
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

she is apparently going to be in even more trouble.

Hillary you cannot play both sides.

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
56. Or Hillary's missing millions as reported & printed in Forbes!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:59 PM
Apr 2016

Forbes: The Mystery Of Hillary's Missing Millions: http://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2015/09/29/the-mystery-of-hillarys-missing-millions/#20f560905505

SEP 29, 2015 @ 08:30 AM

Dan Alexander

Since Bill and Hillary Clinton left the White House in 2001, they have earned more than $230 million. But in federal filings the Clintons claim they are worth somewhere between $11 million and $53 million. After layering years of disclosures on top of annual tax returns, Forbes estimates their combined net worth at $45 million. Where did all of the money go? No one seems to know, and the Clintons aren’t offering any answers.

From 2001 to 2014 the power couple spent $95 million on taxes. Hillary’s 2008 presidential run cost her $13 million. Their two homes cost a combined $5 million, and the Clintons have given away $22 million to charity. All of this is according to FEC filings, property records and years of tax returns. Add it up and you get $135 million. If the Clintons made $230 million, spent $135 million and have just $45 million left over, what happened to the other $50 million?

“That’s kind of strange,” says Joe Biden’s accountant, Walter Deyhle. “You have to report all of your assets. You have to report assets that are owned by your spouse.”

It seems unlikely that the Clintons could have spent all of it. Over 14 years $50 million averages out to $3.6 million in extra expenses per year, or $9,800 per day.

FULL story at link.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
19. She's being so evasive for a reason
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:38 PM
Apr 2016

I have a feeling something really important is in those speeches.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
2. It's another manufactured crisis by the extremists - left and right. There's nothing wrong with
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

her paid speeches. It's supply and demand - she's in demand and a highly coveted speaker.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
5. Really manufactured by her.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:15 PM
Apr 2016

It's surprising people are ok with secret speeches to people that she says she'll regulate.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
45. Oh wow, please tell me more. Sounds fascinating.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:40 PM
Apr 2016

You are talking about the remake of Plan 9 from Outer Space, right?

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
10. Yep. It's just supply and demand. There is a large supply of money to bribe potential
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:35 PM
Apr 2016

future Presidents and only so many potential future Presidents to spread all those millions in corporate bribes around to.

jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
24. Self enrichment with connections gained on public office
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:06 PM
Apr 2016

Nothing wrong with that, conflicts of interest, be darned!!

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
27. If she was just selling herself, that would be great....
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:15 PM
Apr 2016

problem is neither of us believe that's what she is selling, and that's not what the buyers are after always.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
74. Supply and demand. Are you kidding me. Really? I don't care what she got paid.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:48 PM
Apr 2016

I want to know what she said in those speeches. For all I care, they can pay her a million per speech ... but I want to know if she's hoodwinking working class folks. Whose side is she really on?

Response to mhatrw (Original post)

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
7. The longer she protests and refuses, the more obvious it becomes she made specific promises to GS
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:25 PM
Apr 2016

All to secure funding for her campaign.

The real question is, how much is it going to cost the rest of us in fulfilling those promises?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. You NAILED IT!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:00 PM
Apr 2016

Funny to think that Hillary's deathly afraid of HER OWN words! Yeah - this is the sorta person I want in our public mansion!

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
9. since releasing the transcripts would make this go away, it shows that there is something to hide
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:34 PM
Apr 2016

the path of least resistance is to simply prove herself trustworthy and release them, but obviously her having to deal with this issue over and over and over again is somehow more advantageous than releasing what was said in those quarter-of-a-million-dollar speeches .... which tells me there is something worth hiding.

• Below is just ONE example where she wants to grant more job waivers than the government limit for foreign workers over equally qualified Americans who could aim for the same jobs. I can only imagine what she is hiding in the other 'closed-door speeches' if this is an example of a speech that was actually public.



It is obvious that it would immediately end the questions if she released the transcripts, so no doubt there is something worth keeping hidden... and Republicans who attended those events in great numbers will be willing to release the audio recordings they no doubt made, once a General Election contest begins....



downeastdaniel

(497 posts)
12. I've got a great idea! Just make the transcripts to the 3 Goldman speeches and let the
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

Public decide if these little talks would encourage actions from her that would be unseemly, so to speak. If they look innocent to most, then drop the matter...ok?

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
13. HILLARY: "i WON'T DO THE RIGHT THING UNLESS...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

OTHERS DO THE RIGHT THING."

That is not leadership. That is amorality.

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
69. Apparently the title or phrase "Public Service" is not understood
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

by her. Public means public--the working stiffs. Not the greedy bastards on Wall St.

Jim Hightower had a great line last night in his speech before Bernie: They think they are the top dogs, and all of us are the fire hydrants.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
20. She has my no confidence vote
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:40 PM
Apr 2016

Sorry but thus appears to be a Romney moment for her.

If you said nothing wrong. you have nothing to hide.

Response to mhatrw (Original post)

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
25. This also highlights the difference between Hillary and Bernie
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:11 PM
Apr 2016

He gets outraged over what is being done to the PEOPLE. She gets outraged over what the people are "doing" to her.

Poor Mrs. Clinton. Why do they oppress her so????

Jackilope

(819 posts)
38. ^^^^ This! ^^^^
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:34 PM
Apr 2016

It cannot be more obvious. Bernie is for the people, HRC is more about herself and her puppet masters.

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
50. This has always been a part of the Clinton playbook
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

"I am a victim" is just part of the charm. She does take a lot of arrows, most deserved but some not. It's the ones she didn't earn that she magnifies to excuse the ones she did earn. It's a politician thing and a lot of them do it.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
61. As a business woman/owner the fake victim thing makes me SO FUCKING ANGRY
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

This PISSES ME OFF to the nth degree. I accept SOLE responsibility for everything that goes wrong in my business and when we have triumphs it is because the people who work for me have made it happen. If someone is critical of my business, I know it's because of something I have done...not my staff, ME.

I have, in my estimation, many people - 30 whole families! - counting on me to provide for them. I will go hungry before they do because that is what I owe them for their loyalty and labor. To my mind, Hillary is applying for the same position I hold as "president" of my modest business. And it sure seems as though she isn't prepared to go hungry so everyone else can eat. And as a 50 year old white woman - her demographic - I cannot in good conscience vote for her.

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
76. wish you'd post that as an OP
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:21 AM
Apr 2016

I'd love to rec your post multiple times. You put very elegantly exactly how I feel.

thank you

azmom

(5,208 posts)
31. Hiding speeches, hiding e-mails, hiding
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

foundation donations. So much for transparency which she so often speaks about.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
33. Now THAT was a squirrelly answer. And then, oh poor me, everyone's piling on me
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:23 PM
Apr 2016

it's SO unfair. They've been doing this for decades.

Yeah and we the public are NOT ready for four more years of Clinton drama!

 

86derps

(44 posts)
34. For years we said Republicans were bought and paid for.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:23 PM
Apr 2016

Repulicans took money from everyone and now when Hillary takes the same money its not influencing. Can we get real.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
39. "I'm not doing it cause they didn't do it" isn't a winning argument for a presidential candidate.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:35 PM
Apr 2016

She should be leading by example. Transparency shouldn't be dependent on another person's level of Transparency.
That's like saying I'm only going to have as much integrity as that other guy... in fact, that's exactly what she's saying.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
60. Way to lead by example, Hill!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:11 PM
Apr 2016

Also, love how it has pivoted from "everyone - Republicans included - must first release all their speech transcripts" (not sure which other remaining presidential candidate gave 3 speeches to Goldman Sachs for $250,000+ a pop, but whatevs) to "tax returns are the standard!" Sorry, but there is no "standard" of someone - shortly before running for president - receiving close to $1,000,000 for less than 3 hours work from a company (and industry) that nearly tanked a country, WHICH MAKES THIS A WHOLLY UNIQUE SITUATION! And, even if that wasn't the case, and every other politician had give quarter-of-a-million dollar speeches to fat cats in the financial industry, SHE SHOULD STILL RELEASE HER TRANSCRIPTS WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO BE PROMPTED ONCE (much less A THOUSAND TIMES)! Why? Because that's what a decent, honest, trustworthy, virtuous, self-less would-be leader should and would do (and set an example of doing). And speaking of failing to initially fully report tax information...

Presidential!

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
72. Exactly!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

It would take an act of Congress to release her speeches. Then she might retort: that depends on the definition of what "speech" is.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
75. Hopefully, when the Repukes finally release the text, these transcripts do not make Clinton look
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:08 AM
Apr 2016

like a corporate whore.

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