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Great news if youre waiting for the rapture to happen, you dont have to go to school! At least, thats what the Texas Supreme Court said. Ring of Fires Farron Cousins discusses this.
pepperbear
(5,648 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)They're mostly wrong.
longship
(40,416 posts)No matter what the excuse.
It is in the state's (nation's) interest that children should be educated. To deny a child of such opportunity is egregious. To do so on religious grounds is especially egregious.
No sympathy here.
All kids deserve equal educational opportunity.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Texas doesn't require parents who home-school their children to register with state authorities. While families must meet "basic educational goals" in reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics and citizenship, they don't have to give standardized testing or otherwise prove student progress is made.
In essence, the legal debate was not about the family's religious convictions, but rather about a relative's complaint that their children were being insufficiently educated (and the reason why they were being insufficiently educated was not relevant from a legal standpoint).
The Court ruled on the following (though not available to the wider public)
Although a copy of the ruling isn't publicly available, news reports indicate that the court didn't intervene to compel the McIntyre children to attend school or subject the family to additional scrutiny. But more to the point, the parents involved expressly did not argue that their belief in an imminent Rapture exempted them from following state homeschooling laws. The parents instead refuted a relative's claim regarding that religious belief, asserting that a complaint had been lodged against them in retaliation for a familial business dispute. Irrespective of the family's religious beliefs, Texas homeschool regulations are among the least restrictive in the country and require little in the way of enforced curriculum or testing.
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Sucks, but the bar is incredibly low that a sickly hippo could easily leap over it
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)As the mathematicians say, true in a degenerate sense.
markbark
(1,560 posts)Carlin had it right: Instead of school busing and prayer in schools, which are both controversial, why not a joint solution?
Prayer in buses.
Just drive these kids around all day and let them pray their fuckin' empty little heads off.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Abandon reality and embrace old fairy tales, take them literally, inhabit your own personal dark age. Knock yourself out but.....don't sentence your kids to being a dummy too.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)The Texas Supreme Court sided with a family accused of not teaching its children anything while waiting to be "raptured," but failed to answer larger constitutional questions about whether home-schooled students must be properly educated.
The 6-3 decision by the all-Republican court on technical grounds means nothing was decided regarding a showdown between religious liberties and educational requirements in America's largest conservative state, though it will live on in lower Texas courts.
Texas doesn't require parents who home-school their children to register with state authorities. While families must meet "basic educational goals" in reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics and citizenship, they don't have to give standardized testing or otherwise prove student progress is made.
In essence, the legal debate was not about the family's religious convictions, but rather about a relative's complaint that their children were being insufficiently educated (and the reason why they were being insufficiently educated was not relevant from a legal standpoint).
The family said it used a religious curriculum similar to one offered in El Paso's Christian schools, and noted the uncle invented claims of waiting for the rapture because he was embroiled in a dispute over ownership of the since-defunct motorcycle dealership.
The high court found that 14th Amendment claims were not a question for Texas' educational code.
"Whether their constitutional rights were violated remains to be decided, but it is a question the courts not the commissioner must decide," Justice John Devine wrote, referring to the state's education commissioner, Mike Morath. [The] ruling wasn't a total win for the McIntyres, however. The Texas Supreme Court also agreed with a lower court in that Mendoza didn't violate federal 14th Amendment protections when he investigated the McIntyres.
Although a copy of the ruling isn't publicly available, news reports indicate that the court didn't intervene to compel the McIntyre children to attend school or subject the family to additional scrutiny. But more to the point, the parents involved expressly did not argue that their belief in an imminent Rapture exempted them from following state homeschooling laws. The parents instead refuted a relative's claim regarding that religious belief, asserting that a complaint had been lodged against them in retaliation for a familial business dispute. Irrespective of the family's religious beliefs, Texas homeschool regulations are among the least restrictive in the country and require little in the way of enforced curriculum or testing.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)make another loony decision on home schooling and religious quackery, imo.
Here is another source for this story.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-high-court-sides-family-let-kids-skip-193732662.html
Texas high court sides with family who let kids skip schoolwork in wait of 'rapture'
Josh Kenworthy June 24, 2016
The Texas Supreme Court has ruled in favor of a family who were homeschooling their children but not teaching them, since they believed they would soon be raptured.
The Lone Star States highest court voted 6-3 in favor of the family on a technicality. Laura and Michael McIntyre claimed their Fourteenth Amendment right had been violated when the El Paso school district attempted to discover whether their children were learning. The district had also filed charges of truancy, but later dropped them.
At the heart of the issue is the question of where to draw the line between individual parents' liberties to educate their own children and requirements designed to ensure that homeschooled children are learning at an acceptable rate. While the court ruled in favor of the family in this specific instance, they did not address the more fundamental issue, a development that could be important as the number of Americans choosing to homeschool their children rapidly grows.
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