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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:11 AM Jul 2016

Establishment Dems Desperate To Support Wall Street Darling Patrick Murphy Over Alan Grayson



In a year full of emphasis on progressive values, it’s hard to imagine why establishment Democrats would put their support – and cash – behind a barely-Democrat candidate who is owned part and parcel by Wall Street. But that is exactly what the party will get if they continue to support Rep. Patrick Murphy over progressive rep. Alan Grayson in the Florida Senate primary race. The choice is simple: corrupt business-as-usual, or a strong, progressive Senator?
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Establishment Dems Desperate To Support Wall Street Darling Patrick Murphy Over Alan Grayson (Original Post) GoLeft TV Jul 2016 OP
Grayson isn't a great guy... vi5 Jul 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #2
Agree fully rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #3
SO this is a cult message turbinetree Jul 2016 #5
When spoken by a guy who manages his wealth rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #11
You know what--------------are any one of these representing you ---- turbinetree Jul 2016 #28
Don't follow mystery links rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #30
Link for that assertion please. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #31
Sure rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #32
I might agree fully Uponthegears Jul 2016 #6
Here's one rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #13
People need to do a little research on Grayson's background. George II Jul 2016 #4
Again, I'm sorry Uponthegears Jul 2016 #7
He has turned into a nutjob. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #35
"establishment" dems love their wall street lovers, as you'll see should Kaine get the vp nod stupidicus Jul 2016 #8
"Establishment"? Do you realize that Grayson is worth somewhere between $50 and $90 million? George II Jul 2016 #9
Primary's over, stupidicus. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #10
Seems to be Andy823 Jul 2016 #12
gee, when did you become aware of that? stupidicus Jul 2016 #20
"Thou shalt not rec up the Moonie Times and promote Google conspiracy theories" emulatorloo Jul 2016 #22
and that was done when and where? stupidicus Jul 2016 #24
Your rec list is public. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #25
in other words, you've got nothing stupidicus Jul 2016 #26
No, we all have your rec list. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #27
thanks for conceding you're being dishonest stupidicus Jul 2016 #29
Hmm, so a hedge fundie rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #14
too funny stupidicus Jul 2016 #17
False equivalence rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #19
hardly stupidicus Jul 2016 #21
I suppose you don't care for John Kerry either? newthinking Jul 2016 #23
truth should matter here -- the investments were never funded...but carry on with your fantasy nashville_brook Jul 2016 #36
Dear Stupidicus Plucketeer Jul 2016 #16
LOL stupidicus Jul 2016 #18
Grayson rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #33
Roll Call turbinetree Jul 2016 #15
Establishment Dem's are Buck Green icv03985 Jul 2016 #34
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
1. Grayson isn't a great guy...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jul 2016

But I'll take progressive jerk over conservative wall street jerk any day.

Response to GoLeft TV (Original post)

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
11. When spoken by a guy who manages his wealth
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jul 2016

in offshore hedge funds in the Caymans, damn right it is.

Progressives get played by this boor.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
28. You know what--------------are any one of these representing you ----
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jul 2016

I have John Delaney to worry about, a DINO, he right along with some other right wingers co-sponsors want to gut my social security, and he along with over 98%, on this list voted for the TPP, where was Grayson vote


http://media.cq.com/50Richest/

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
30. Don't follow mystery links
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jul 2016

Rule one of Internet hygiene.

If you've got something to say in your own words in all ears.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
6. I might agree fully
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jul 2016

But can't tell from ad hominem comments like "He's a loudmouth" and "[her] makes us look bad."

I can't choose a candidate based on personal attacks. Most of the people who can are in Cleveland right now.

Maybe if you would provide, say, five examples when Alan Grayson "made us look bad."

Thank you in advance.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
7. Again, I'm sorry
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jul 2016

I just don't think we should be choosing (or rejecting) a candidate based on an argument like "I know something you don't know."

Casting votes based on unidentified, nebulous fears also appears to be popular in Cleveland.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
8. "establishment" dems love their wall street lovers, as you'll see should Kaine get the vp nod
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:39 AM
Jul 2016

what do you expect given the ideological leanings and efforts of the dem nominee?

Hasn't fear of the Tramp made you forget all that yet? lol

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. "Establishment"? Do you realize that Grayson is worth somewhere between $50 and $90 million?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:41 AM
Jul 2016

That's not "establishment"?

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
10. Primary's over, stupidicus.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jul 2016

No more fear and smear of the dem nominee, no more pretending Trump is the "lesser of two evils."

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
12. Seems to be
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jul 2016

More than a few around DU these days that don't seem for realize it's all over, that or they just like to cause problems and stir things up.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
20. gee, when did you become aware of that?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jul 2016

that's hardly cause for you bearing false witness against those long aware of it, like charging that I am now or have ever contended that the tramp is the lesser of two evils.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
26. in other words, you've got nothing
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:23 AM
Jul 2016

that actually disputes anything I've posted, just dishonest distractions you can't be bothered to validate.

par for the course eh?

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
27. No, we all have your rec list.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jul 2016

You recc'd an article from the Moonie Times and you recc'ed Google CT's.

As I understand it, you can still go back and remove those recs if you no longer believe that the Moonie Times is credible and Google is not part of a some secret plot. We all make mistakes.


Take care and have a nice day.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
29. thanks for conceding you're being dishonest
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jul 2016

with your functional equivalent to an "are you still beating you wife?" effort here.

There are few things funnier than someone employing tactics like that doing so in the course of a failed impeaching the witness effort.

Thanks for the laugh as well as the aforementioned tacit concession.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
14. Hmm, so a hedge fundie
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:57 AM
Jul 2016

With 100 million bucks in the Caymans is a friend of the working man/woman, huh?

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
19. False equivalence
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:03 AM
Jul 2016

And her money is mostly in the US. We have seen her tax returns and she pays taxes on it.

Also she does not actively manage investments while legislating.

So not a funny as you think.

Grayson is also a sexist boorish pig who could be our Donald Trump if he wasn't quite as creepy.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
23. I suppose you don't care for John Kerry either?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jul 2016

Because if this is your yardstick then you would feel that way about Kerry as well.

While I think we eventually have to get to a balance of democrats that represent both progressive positions and look more like the common population: I will take people like Grayson over a wall street candidate who will represent the values of the 1%.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
36. truth should matter here -- the investments were never funded...but carry on with your fantasy
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jul 2016

unimpeded. by all means.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. Dear Stupidicus
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jul 2016

While it wasn't easy, I weaned myself off of a place where common sense can get you in hot water. Get in line - let folks TELL you who to cheer for and who to demonize. Never mind the above TPP ad - think not about Grayson's in-their-face moments (for Republicans) on the floor of the House, forget about the good things he's done in his official capacity. The EVIL Grayson refuses to fall in line behind those bought for us to dutifully vote for. The guy slurps his soup, had toenail fungus, has gobs of personal money and won't turn it over to the DNC. Get a clue!

icv03985

(15 posts)
34. Establishment Dem's are Buck Green
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jul 2016

It's hard to find any Democrat who holds national office these days who isn't a neo-dem - the ideology of the DLC and their pitbull, Bill Clinton, instituted over 25 yrs ago. Cater to the money, feign opposition, but cut deals that undermine the working poor, unions, and progressive ideals. Hope for the best - Bernie Sanders (well, now disappointingly, Hilary) - but prepare for the worst - Dumpster Trump. The DNC should just move its HQ to Wall Street and register a satellite office off K Street, in DC - it's basically become a lobbyist group for them, anyway.

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