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Baryshnikov on Trump and Hillary (Original Post) MBS Aug 2016 OP
Wow. chills Rose Siding Aug 2016 #1
I also got chills. MBS Aug 2016 #3
Thank you and I love you, Mr. Baryshnikov! betsuni Aug 2016 #2
So, I eagerly await tRUMP's reaction to this mega body slam... downeastdaniel Aug 2016 #4
By the way, her name is Hillary Clinton. You don't hear people calling Trump "Donald"...... Jade Fox Aug 2016 #5
Not on my part. MBS Aug 2016 #6
It's not just "Sexism, plain and simple." It's mostly intent. Hillary doesn't mind, either. ancianita Aug 2016 #7
I think in 2008 she started using it treestar Aug 2016 #8
yup. N/t MBS Aug 2016 #10
To be fair, Hillary Clinton's own campaign calls her Hillary. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #14
He is so sexy! hamsterjill Aug 2016 #9
There is a presence about him. MBS Aug 2016 #11
You explained it much better than I did. hamsterjill Aug 2016 #13
K&R trof Aug 2016 #12

MBS

(9,688 posts)
3. I also got chills.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 08:53 AM
Aug 2016

Because he gets right to the core of what is at stake in this election.
As he says, he knows exactly what he's talking about.
Best ad I've seen in this campaign so far.

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
5. By the way, her name is Hillary Clinton. You don't hear people calling Trump "Donald"......
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:49 AM
Aug 2016

Sexism, plain and simple.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
6. Not on my part.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:33 AM
Aug 2016

The habit arises because there are two prominent politicians with the same last name. For me, it's 100% an issue of word economy, not sexism.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
7. It's not just "Sexism, plain and simple." It's mostly intent. Hillary doesn't mind, either.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:41 AM
Aug 2016

You're right that most sexists use 'Hillary' or "Killary," but you also know very well that not all 'Hillary' users are sexist.

Also, calling famous people by their first names (Bae, Kanye, Mike, Oprah) is also a common practice among both the black community and beyond.

Again, if it's not quite affection, it is definitely familiarity that's also going on with DU'ers who call Secretary of State Clinton "Hillary."

No rule has been established about the use of first names around here. The reason is "affectionate and familiarity," plain and simple. Most of us remember when we affectionately and familiarly used "Barack" and "Michelle" back in the day.

DU has been down the sexist language discussions and policing road already.

If you don't agree, try an Alert on it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. I think in 2008 she started using it
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:55 AM
Aug 2016

so she would not be confused with Bill. So she has always campaigned as "Hillary."

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
14. To be fair, Hillary Clinton's own campaign calls her Hillary.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 03:39 PM
Aug 2016

Also, there's lots of people that refer to Trump as "The Donald". And of course, I call Trump many other names, none of them nice...

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
9. He is so sexy!
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:59 AM
Aug 2016

If that's sexist, I'm sorry, but I have loved this man since I was a teenager. I cannot imagine that it was easy for him to leave his life behind and start over.

I love that he is willing to give his perspective, especially given all of the Trump ties to Russia.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
11. There is a presence about him.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:08 AM
Aug 2016

Not just the manliness part (though there is for sure that, too : ) ). But also a piercing intelligence and awareness that just radiates from him

And he really knows what he's talking about re the Soviet parallels. Everyone should heed his words. He is absolutely right.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
13. You explained it much better than I did.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:17 PM
Aug 2016

You're absolutely correct. Yes, absolutely a "piercing intelligence".

I can't imagine anyone better to know the Soviet parallels and perils. He IS absolutely right.

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