How Jill Stein's Recount Could Backfire

[thomhartmann]

[msongs]

1. russia today. 'nuff said nt

[Grey Lemercier]

7. this plus a billion

Putin's ONLY goal is to destabilise the USA from every angle, Left, Right, and Centre.

He is a toweringly powerful figure with a mind that is light years beyond almost every other world leader on the stage, Obama and every other one anyone on here will toss up as a "friendly" included. His skills are masterclass, just look at how he gamed our goddamn presidential election.

Because he exists in a isolated sector (due to linguistic and cultural differences and an utter lack of sophistication from your average American), people in the US have no idea how sophisticated his games are. Hartmann is a fool for aiding him.

[ms liberty]

2. Oh no, Russia Today! (Wiggles fingers)

A teevee station that shows Thom's show in its entirety without censorship. If it did, he wouldn't be on it. It's probably one of the few shows on that channel that gets any viewers. The content of the program matters more to me than the channel on which it is appearing.

[david4justice49]

3. RT? Russian TV? Really?

Yes, they have allowed some forward thinking Americans on their network, but the bottom line for RT is to be a propaganda arm for the Russians and Putin. Personally, I really try to tune out Fox News, Breitbart and RT (Russia).
Better for the noggin. Let this recount roll. What do we really have to lose?

[think]

4. Agree with Thom & the panel that Cross Check voter suppression needs to be examined in the recount

Hartmann points out the Michigan Cross Check voter purge removed 449,922 names from the voter rolls which is 40 times greater than Trump's margin of victory. This was very informative and I was not aware of the magnitude of Cross Check's impact on Michigan.

The end segment about the Dakota pipeline and Robert Kennedy Jr's comments on the pipeline company Energy Transfer Partners was also very informative. Kennedy claims the company has been in violation of the law by skirting an environmental impact study by segmenting the pipeline project into small projects and basically pretending each segment was it's own project.

Lot's going on now days.

[JHan]

5. that's what concerns me:

The Voter purges - we're looking at millions of votes across all states.

And ETP has a poor track record, and they should have done everything they could in this case to ensure FPIC:

North American Energy News agrees:

"Trahant says the standard – and correct – response in a confrontation of this type is to de-escalate the tensions: reach out and engage. Begin a dialogue. Try to find common ground. Resolve the most obvious grievances. Work toward a solution.

And try really, really hard not to make more enemies."

http://theamericanenergynews.com/markham-on-energy/industry-mistakes-dakota-access-protest

[pnwmom]

9. Thom is correct that purging was a huge problem and won't be corrected

in this recount -- so the recount could paper over the real problems.

[Eric J in MN]

6. The recount isn't a panacea, but if it proceeds properly, then at least we'll know

...if machine inaccuracy cost WI, MI, or PA.

[pnwmom]

8. We already know it won't in PA. They only got affidavits for 100

precincts out of 10,000.

They didn't even put the notice on their website till Sunday, and the due date for then needed 30,000 volunteers (3 per precinct) was Monday.

[TrollBuster9090]

10. Ah, well the solution is simple, then. Just drop the recount efforts...

Just drop the recount efforts, which are mandated by law to go forward, and concentrate on complaining about voter suppression instead. I believe those complaints will be directed to...JEFF SESSIONS. I'm sure he'll get right on it.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

11. The danger is (at least in WI) if hand count over entire state isnt done, if the repub

counties (which tend to have the touch screen ie most hackable machines and where the widest discrepancy between exit polls and results occurred) then its a waste of time and money. Also Walker is saying the absentee ballots wont be counted... which is where some of the red flags appeared.

If they dont do this, and nothing is found... then it will be used as RW propaganda (" nothing to see, everythings OK)

[greenman3610]

12. Hartmann needs to get the fuck away from RT. He does not need them.