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Pic Of The Moment: Think About It (Original Post) EarlG Jul 2012 OP
1000 recs DainBramaged Jul 2012 #1
yep.. REAL easy to make these questions go away.. . . .n/t annabanana Jul 2012 #2
25 years ago someone broke into my car and stole my new tennis shoes. onehandle Jul 2012 #3
If he lied to the SEC about it then even that would be a big deal. The Wielding Truth Jul 2012 #19
Possibly synapticwave Jul 2012 #21
The loaded question ad AlbertCat Jul 2012 #4
Actually, not at all like that nichomachus Jul 2012 #6
Bad analogy. The question is clearly, "Why arent you showing your tax returns? Should we guess?" nm rhett o rick Jul 2012 #7
"Why arent you showing your tax returns? Should we guess?" AlbertCat Jul 2012 #58
I think the speculation might open some people's eyes as to what Romney might be hiding. nm rhett o rick Jul 2012 #59
None of your damn business. Indydem Jul 2012 #5
Really? It's a public document. Everyone else running has provided this info AllyCat Jul 2012 #10
It is not a public document. Indydem Jul 2012 #13
Well, whether it is a public document or not is irrelevant. PotatoChip Jul 2012 #17
+1 Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Jul 2012 #30
A precedent has been set. Maybe Romney wants to set a new precedent. A Simple Game Jul 2012 #33
He provided two decades' worth to McCain in his lust for VP-licious power! MADem Jul 2012 #53
I didn't know that he realeased two decades of returns to McCain. patricia92243 Jul 2012 #57
Maybe it's not "public" but employers have started asking for it. AllyCat Jul 2012 #55
So how do we do this? bayareaboy Jul 2012 #8
I think the simple answer is that he KNOWS he's a felon. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #9
WORSE - he should be in jail for INSURANCE FRAUD. EarlG needs to do a graphic pointing to it blm Jul 2012 #27
Remember the old adage Bainbridge Bear Jul 2012 #29
Welcome to DU! Raster Jul 2012 #44
Welcome to DU. am1090 listener from Tacoma here as well. chknltl Jul 2012 #54
All of the Above. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #11
who was running Bain when he was not running it SemperEadem Jul 2012 #12
KnR BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2012 #14
I'd bet for the same reason he keeps the Bermuda company with a value of ~$10,500 HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #15
Some say bongbong Jul 2012 #22
I suspect it works much like a piece of copper tubing on a still HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #42
Why? Brewinblue Jul 2012 #16
Remember Leona Helmsley? disndat Jul 2012 #18
"We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes." - Leona Helmsley aka inmate #15113-054 tclambert Jul 2012 #45
I can hear it now: "I am not a crook." n/t rgbecker Jul 2012 #20
My first thought LittleGirl Jul 2012 #41
Eric Holder should arrest and frogmarch Romney's ass on NBCNews.com BanTheGOP Jul 2012 #23
Good question, even if it is hypothetical LiberalLovinLug Jul 2012 #40
FB'd Atman Jul 2012 #24
When he released Rainngirl Jul 2012 #25
Why, Mittens, WHY? n/t ejbr Jul 2012 #26
I hope Obama's team reads DU because I have something to say about this. MADem Jul 2012 #28
Here's the Barack Obama Campaign's Contact page: Amonester Jul 2012 #31
What a cheap, cheesy putz. aquart Jul 2012 #34
Tell our friends at MSNBC. All of them. aquart Jul 2012 #37
1++++ patrice Jul 2012 #39
If this is not already an OP it should be! AllyCat Jul 2012 #56
What we would see is: A big fat circle of 0s and 1s that PRODUCE NOTHING but more 0s and 1s. patrice Jul 2012 #32
Romney may be performing an act of 'Noblesse oblige'. GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #35
Ah, but the "Corn King" ALWAYS returns. nt patrice Jul 2012 #38
K&R patrice Jul 2012 #36
President Obama should offer Mitt a pardon for any misdeeds in L'Affaire Bain Bolo Boffin Jul 2012 #43
What I find ironic: toddwv Jul 2012 #46
Thom Hartmann quoted from this list today.. Stuart G Jul 2012 #47
Thiis would make a good slideshow commercial. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #48
He has something to hide. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #49
MITTENS, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE drynberg Jul 2012 #50
Has anything like this happened before?? I don't recall..someone knows..nt Stuart G Jul 2012 #51
k&r nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #52

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. 25 years ago someone broke into my car and stole my new tennis shoes.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:20 PM
Jul 2012

Did Mitt Romney do it?

He hasn't denied it.

Why?

synapticwave

(52 posts)
21. Possibly
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:48 PM
Jul 2012

Is he running on a platform that includes fixing the economy by cracking down on auto break-ins and shoe theft?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
4. The loaded question ad
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:21 PM
Jul 2012

When did he stop beating his wife?

Hate it. It's like Fox News prepared it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. Bad analogy. The question is clearly, "Why arent you showing your tax returns? Should we guess?" nm
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jul 2012
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
58. "Why arent you showing your tax returns? Should we guess?"
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jul 2012

I'm all for that question. It is a fair one.

It's the speculation I don't like. I suppose it's only natural... I mean I'm doing it. But there's no need to make something up. The fact Rmoney thinks he needs to hide his tax returns is really all one NEEDS to know.

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
10. Really? It's a public document. Everyone else running has provided this info
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:46 PM
Jul 2012

including George Romney. And he's released it before to McCain. What is the issue now?

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
13. It is not a public document.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jul 2012

It is a confidential document filed between an individual and the IRS.

I wasn't trying to defend Romney, I was trying to make a statement as the repukes would answer it, but you can't say false things like "it's a public document" and not get a response.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
17. Well, whether it is a public document or not is irrelevant.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:25 PM
Jul 2012

The point is that Presidential candidates have been providing these documents for scrutiny for decades now. A precedent has been set. The general public expects to be able see this information. Even if it is not a specific requirement.

The fact that Romney refuses to be forthcoming w/this info has got to make people (even repukes) wonder what he is trying to hide.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
33. A precedent has been set. Maybe Romney wants to set a new precedent.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jul 2012

A precedent has been set. Was that back when votes counted more than money?

No law saying he has to release the papers. No law says we have to vote for him.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
53. He provided two decades' worth to McCain in his lust for VP-licious power!
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:37 PM
Jul 2012

Whatever McCain saw in those things made him say "Fuck that bastard" and pick PALIN instead!!!!

patricia92243

(12,597 posts)
57. I didn't know that he realeased two decades of returns to McCain.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 11:06 AM
Jul 2012

Sooo - somebody needs to get McCains camp to "leak" the information to the public.

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
55. Maybe it's not "public" but employers have started asking for it.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 01:38 AM
Jul 2012

In this economy, they figure they can get away with all kinds of things because people what the job. For example:

[link:http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Employers-asking-job-seekers-for-W-2-or-tax-return-3530180.php|

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
8. So how do we do this?
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jul 2012

I like this, of the seven questions listed how about yes or no on each item or what?

So what is the prize we all can win for doing this perhaps a Mitt and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir rendition of Gold Bless America?
 

Bainbridge Bear

(155 posts)
29. Remember the old adage
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 02:27 PM
Jul 2012

that behind every great fortune there lies a great crime. In Willard's case it might be several. It would be a great pleasure for me to see the campaign of this arrogant, corrupt, and greedy POS implode.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
12. who was running Bain when he was not running it
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jul 2012

but still being paid as if he was running it?

Funny how he keeps leaving that easy little piece of information out. If it wasn't you, then give us the name of the person who WAS running it.

and why hasn't anyone in the MSM asked him that question instead of letting him leave it at "I left the company in 1999 to run the olympics"?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
15. I'd bet for the same reason he keeps the Bermuda company with a value of ~$10,500
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jul 2012

And I'd bet that reason looks nothing like its face value.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
22. Some say
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jul 2012

Some say he keeps that pitifully tiny company around because it is a front for the hookers, slaves, and drug business that supply repig big wigs 24x7.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
42. I suspect it works much like a piece of copper tubing on a still
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 05:11 PM
Jul 2012

not worth much on it's own, but over the years a very profitable conduit for directing certain high yield products

disndat

(1,887 posts)
18. Remember Leona Helmsley?
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:36 PM
Jul 2012

She said something to the effect, "I don't pay taxes, other people pay taxes."

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
45. "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes." - Leona Helmsley aka inmate #15113-054
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 06:27 PM
Jul 2012

I found it in Wikiquotes. They cite the New York Times and Newsweek as their sources. Her Federal Bureau of Prisons number came from Wikipedia. (I loves the wikis.)

 

BanTheGOP

(1,068 posts)
23. Eric Holder should arrest and frogmarch Romney's ass on NBCNews.com
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jul 2012

That would ensure Obama's reelection, and perhaps start a slew of arrests of rethug millionaires and billionaires.

QUESTION: When would be the best time to actually arrest the bastard?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
40. Good question, even if it is hypothetical
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 04:25 PM
Jul 2012

We all know he will never be arrested, never be charged, and will live out his life with other criminals like Cheney and Rove in the lap of luxury.

But...IF some series of flukes occurred where some underling investigator, who wasn't in on the game, accidentally filed an irreversible charge and by some other fluke a rare journalist with integrity working for MSM let the cat out of the bag...

When to arrest him?
It would have to be a couple of days before the election. Hell, maybe even after, as I think Obama has it anyways. If the GOP had a couple of months or more they'd ride Jeb Bush or Chris Christie in on a white stallion. A lot of Freepers would be cheering like it was the second coming.

Rainngirl

(243 posts)
25. When he released
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jul 2012

his returns to John McCain, John McCain went with Palin! There must be something really bad in there for him to choose that loon over Romney!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. I hope Obama's team reads DU because I have something to say about this.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jul 2012

Mitt Romney received a HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION on his Utah home while he was running those Olympics and the fact was brought up when he was trying to claim he was a Massachusetts resident. Now, as we all know, you can only get one of those if you are a RESIDENT of a state (I pay a few hundred on a shack I have in rural Maine, that would only cost me fifteen bucks or so if I lived there instead of vacationed there).

There was an ENORMOUS stink made at the time--the whole "carpetbagger" and "bullshitter" and "out of state asshole" charges were flying around....and at the time, Mittsy wasn't sure if he was gonna run for governor of Utah or MA. If I recall, a court ruled on Mittsy's residency and they ruled in his favor--so he went out of his way to "prove" that he was a Massachusettsian. Why is he trying to pretend otherwise, now?

This is not a secret, but it is one of those things that is kind of buried in the mists of time. The Globe Spotlight people reported on it--it got a lot of play when it was revealed...to the point that Mittsy made public statements blaming unnamed accountants and he paid the full amount of taxes and maybe even a penalty fee.

I think that a review of public records with regard to Mittsy's residences might be revealing...but what this incident points out is that the guy will lie and flip-flop with sociopathic abandon, and he is one cheap asshole, that a man as wealthy as he is can't even cough up the lousy full freight for his property taxes.

I see the Globe is revisiting this, despite it getting scant attention, but it just shows that this guy will say ANYTHING to gain advantage: http://articles.boston.com/2012-07-13/opinion/32646257_1_tax-returns-mitt-romney-income-taxes


How Romney had filed his Massachusetts income taxes — as a resident or non-resident — during his years in Utah could have had some bearing on the issue. Since he had also been contemplating a run for office in Utah, some suspected he might have filed as resident there to establish more permanent roots in the Beehive State.

Romney initially refused to make a copy of his Massachusetts tax returns public, even a copy with the income information redacted. Suspicions only grew more intense after the Globe’s Frank Phillips reported that Romney had paid property taxes on his Park City, Utah, home as his primary residence for 1999, 2000, and 2001. Campaign aide Eric Fehrnstrom said that had happened because of a “clerical mistake” by the relevant county assessor’s office in Utah, an account that office pretty much backed up, though no one could say quite how the unusual error had occurred.

At the time of the property tax brouhaha, Romney told reporters he had filed his state income taxes “both as a resident of Utah and a resident of Massachusetts.” Pressed by Phillips, Fehrnstrom also insisted Romney had filed as a Massachusetts resident, adding that “you are just going to have to take my word for it.”

And how accurate were Romney and Fehrnstrom’s assertions? Well, though technically true, they stopped several fathoms short of being straightforward. We know that because, with state Democrats posed to push forward with a residency challenge, Romney suddenly reversed course. He called reporters to his campaign headquarters, where he acknowledged that he had initially filed his Massachusetts taxes as part-time resident for 1999 and a nonresident for 2000.


Once a liar, always a liar.

We could actually take a page from Dubya's book, here--Fool me once, won't git fooled agin!!!

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
43. President Obama should offer Mitt a pardon for any misdeeds in L'Affaire Bain
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 05:19 PM
Jul 2012

And let's see if Mitt will accept it.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
46. What I find ironic:
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jul 2012

I think it is HILARIOUS and a bit of justice that the right-wing's smear template against President Obama ala the birthers, is being used against the GOP's #1.

Don't take this as a criticism. While the birthers' efforts over the past 4 years have returned nothing but a few misquoted statements and some blatant forgery hoaxes, Romney Bain issue is bringing up pay dirt because the vetting of Romney is making the right-wingers desperate as they realize that they have been snookered by their corporate masters.

The chickens are coming home to roost, and they are pooping all over the heads of Romney supporters and not-so-supporters everywhere.

Lol.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
47. Thom Hartmann quoted from this list today..
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:19 PM
Jul 2012

It was in the first hour of his show, and read it, and gave credit to Democratic Underground..
Yes..I heard it on the radio...

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
49. He has something to hide.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:34 PM
Jul 2012

That is the only reason why he is not releasing them.

McCain who saw his tax returns has yet to come to his defense.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
50. MITTENS, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:15 PM
Jul 2012

truth, 'cause it ain't gonna set your lying ass free, oh no...but the truth, like cream will rise and be seen by all (I can hardly wait). Oh, when Bad things happen to Bad People...Should be rich.

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