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(11,094 posts)for all those starting from behind.
lark
(23,099 posts)Amazing! I bet some of those kids eyes were opened and for the first time they understood what's going on with white privilege.
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Disadvantages can actually cause some kids to develop skills and desire to accomplish. Persistence, working hard, facing adversity which everyone does. Not always, but sometimes. So not quite accurate that ALL have "2 steps forward" for all of those things. It's more complicated than that. A rich kid may have to take 2 steps back, if he meets adversity along the way, since he doesn't have the skills to deal with it.
Saviolo
(3,282 posts)Privilege is systemic.
POC are more likely to have interactions with police, even if those interactions do not lead to an arrest or a charge, the very fact that an officer spoke to you can be enough to bar entry to some jobs. It's been quite a problem here in Toronto, Canada with the police's carding program. If a police officer comes up to you and asks for your ID and you provide it, that is recorded on your police record as "police interaction" which will show up on a background check. Also, if you're seen in the company of someone who has had a police interaction, you may be automatically listed among "known associates." Check here.
And that second scenario where the rich kid may have to take 2 steps back? It worked in favour of that kid who was driving (underage) drunk on stolen beer and and killed four people. He received 10 years probation and no jail time due to the defense of "affluenza." His lawyers argued that he had never faced consequences for his actions and was unable to link his actions with consequences. (look up Ethan Couch for this one)
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)Not true. Look at the current occupant of the WH. "Daddy" pays for someone else to "deal with that adversity" (as Drumpf's father did while he was alive). That is the idea around that term "affluenza".
There are some wealthy (often Quaker) boarding schools that tried to teach the concepts of advantage and "plain living" so that the attendees would learn the lessons of frugality and eschewing conspicuous consumption. But there are whole swaths of the "noveau riche" who neither know nor learn any such thing.
ck4829
(35,076 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)Otherwise the driven ones are determined to protect their progeny from the wolves at any cost, knowing how easy it is to fail and fall back to earth, enabling "someone else" to take their place.
ck4829
(35,076 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)teach diversity.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)NJCher
(35,669 posts)when they showed the faces of those left behind.
This type of exercise is called "experiential learning." IMO, it is more effective than traditional methods of teaching. It is used mostly with adult education, but now it is finding its way into the middle and high school curriculum.
Cher
Neema
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I appreciate the attempt at a lesson in privilege but it feels a little humiliating to me. And it seems based on the assumption that all POC are poor and live in broken homes.
Plenty of wealthy, educated POC still get stopped by the police for no reason, and still are presumed guilty unless proven otherwise. Even with two parents and food on the table and access to better education, POC still have to work harder to overcome bias. They still have potential employers toss their resumes because their names sound too "ethnic" or to "urban." They still get passed over for promotions. They still have people call the 911 on them for walking down the street. They still have security following them around a store assuming their going to steal something.
JI7
(89,249 posts)studies have shown that white people with fewer qualifications will still be more likely to be hired than a black person with far more qualifications/education etc.
that's what white privilege is.
a black kid who comes from a home with 2 parents and is economically well off and does well in school will still be dealing with shitty cops more than a white person with a criminal background . just becuase of race.
Neema
(1,151 posts)posted this on FB and are getting all kinds of love for it. I'm left scratching my head. It bothers me more on a second viewing. The simplification of the issue gets it fundamentally wrong in my opinion. It's a simplification that leads people to believe that NFL players who kneel are spoiled brats who have nothing to complain about and no longer have to deal with racism and white privilege.