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heaven05
(18,124 posts)Scumbag and that one sitting to his right, not very much better. MSM people like this clown should be carrying a world of shame and guilt yet they appear to the "deplorables" and their 'fellow travelers' everyday spreading obvious lies??
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Scarborough knows Congress "won't do its job"
Mueller knows Congress "won't do its job"
...unless, of course, we're talking about a post-2018 Congress with a Democratic majority.
So what's the point? Mueller going through this to throw up his hands at the end and say "Well, I tried?"
I don't think so.
I personally believe Mueller is going to have to bring Trump to the precipice of what he fears most...the revelation of his financial dealings, all of the hidden details he wants to remain hidden. If that happens, Trump will do whatever he has to do to keep those details hidden. I understand the complexity (and maybe the impossibility) of indicting a sitting president. What I don't believe for a moment is that Mueller is bringing this all to a head with the payoff being "OK, time for Congress to do its job."
olegramps
(8,200 posts)The Republican Party has been transformed into party of hatred and division. It must be totally discredited and literally destroyed to protect the future nation. They have adopted stringent Fascist principles that are in opposition to every principle that the nation was founded upon. Their vision is the return of society to two basic groups: the ultra wealthy and the surf class. Their concept of making America Great Again is in reality the death toll of the working class. It is analogous to their Right-to-Work laws that the ignorant workers swallowed only find it was Right-to-Starve. It is solely designed to further enrich the chosen at the expense of the gullible who gladly swallow the swill they spew. The working class has only its self to blame. The is only one way for the working class to thrive and that is through collective bargaining. When they abandoned the unions they abandoned all hope for fair treatment.
Could not agree more y
vi5
(13,305 posts)....While I think he will get really close to him with a lot of people (maybe even Kushner), I think he's probably afraid of opening a powder keg unless he has video of Trump literally meeting with Russian hackers and specifically instructing them what to do.
My hope is that Dems take over both chambers in November and it neuters Trump on a lot of levels (Judges, etc.). Mueller hands down a bunch of indictments but not necessarily directly Trump himself.
This way Trump has to remain in office and the GOP has him tied around their necks like an albatross.
This is also actually my preferred scenario. I find Pence in many ways more dangerous than Trump. I don't want him to continue to have unchecked power with a Republican Congress, but I also don't want the GOP to be able to get away with not having to answer for him in the next 3 years.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)And tend to agree on Pence
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)I'm not a political scholar, so I don't know all of the fine details about how / if Trump could do end runs around Democrats in the majority.
I'm sure that in his mind, we'd revert to some form of monarchy or dictatorship where the land is governed by a series of "signing statements."
If it becomes two more years of everything the Republicans want getting shot down in flames by a Democratic majority, with Trump in office, I don't see how he could "win" re-election in 2020. Then again, who the hell thought he'd be elected at all?
Pence would basically be Ryan and McConnell without the sideshow. It would be cold-blooded, emotionless, extreme right government that would only build on the damages inflicted so far.
It all comes down to November.
chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)Mueller will have no choice but to indict Trump.