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The truth about GOP hero Ayn Rand (interview with Mike Wallace) (Original Post) DesertRat Aug 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author immoderate Aug 2012 #1
Yes, I do DesertRat Aug 2012 #2
Please clarify. Mike Wallace a psychopath? Raster Aug 2012 #12
what? heaven05 Aug 2012 #19
the poster and post to which I replied has deleted their post. Raster Aug 2012 #23
Heh heh! immoderate Aug 2012 #26
ayn rand, welfare parasite nt msongs Aug 2012 #3
how about including her use of social security? bbgrunt Aug 2012 #4
I wonder who ownes the rights to her books? Smickey Aug 2012 #5
Rand named Leonard Peikoff the legal heir to her estate DesertRat Aug 2012 #8
Peikoff became her heir because Tomay Aug 2012 #11
Thanks DesertRat. Smickey Aug 2012 #13
Thanks for the link to Peikoff... radhika Aug 2012 #17
The weak are unworthy of love. Well, then.........hokay....... kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #6
All persons not born full grown from the head of Zeus, being weak, should die. Infanticide, huh? freshwest Aug 2012 #20
Apparently. She didn't speak well of infants and children in Atlas Shrugged. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #21
She was a moment frozen in time, yet esteemed by many. freshwest Aug 2012 #22
Great post. Thank you! eom Frustratedlady Aug 2012 #27
Agree, Rand is without conscience, the prime description of a psychopath. lumpy Aug 2012 #7
Agreed nt DesertRat Aug 2012 #9
people heaven05 Aug 2012 #10
Ayn Rand's insanity should be exposed to all humanity as well as the fact that Paul Ryan lumpy Aug 2012 #14
the fac that she's an atheist and Ryan worships her will shoot them both down. roguevalley Aug 2012 #34
Rand's problem isn't her atheism! Liberal Insights Aug 2012 #37
I have no problem with atheists either but the right wing does. Her problems are roguevalley Aug 2012 #38
"Paul Ryand" Smickey Aug 2012 #15
That does have good ring to it DesertRat Aug 2012 #16
She looks and sounds like she'd be perfectly cast as the bride of Hitlerstein bupkus Aug 2012 #18
She looks and sounds They_Live Aug 2012 #24
That looks like an ad to me. MissMarple Aug 2012 #25
I'm surprised that conservatives buy into the thoughts and ideas of an athiest. notadmblnd Aug 2012 #28
Alan Greenspan was a 'close associate'. Tha explains a lot. trof Aug 2012 #29
How can an Objectivist Atheist say that other beliefs are Evil ... Vox Moi Aug 2012 #30
I think she would say the individual is god MNBrewer Aug 2012 #35
Her books were fiction, Smilo Aug 2012 #31
Wow. I wonder what else she said. That's cold, heartless, illogical, and not part of a social group. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #32
Very horrifying caveat_imperator Aug 2012 #36
Creepy Republicans of old BrainMann1 Aug 2012 #33

Response to DesertRat (Original post)

Raster

(20,998 posts)
23. the poster and post to which I replied has deleted their post.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:00 PM
Aug 2012

I was asking them to please clarify their comment that seemed to state that Mike Wallace was a psychopath. It would appear that instead of clarification, they opted to delete their post instead.

Tomay

(58 posts)
11. Peikoff became her heir because
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:56 PM
Aug 2012

practically everybody else who knew her ditched her when they finally realized how bat-shit crazy she was. Peikoff was a cringing sychophant of Rand's who never left Objectivism because her had no life outside of it.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
17. Thanks for the link to Peikoff...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:26 PM
Aug 2012

Never heard of him before. Found it intriguing that he was pro-choice and endorsed John Kerry in 2004.


In 2004 Peikoff endorsed John Kerry (despite thinking of Kerry as a "disgustingly bad" candidate) against George W. Bush (whom he called "apocalyptically bad&quot , on the basis of Bush's religiosity and his refusal to crush Islamic regimes, especially Iran, along with his "doomed" economic policies. In advance of the 2006 elections, Peikoff recommended voting only for Democrats, to forestall what he sees is a rise in influence of the religious right, adding:

Given the choice between a rotten, enfeebled, despairing killer [Democrats], and a rotten, ever stronger, and ambitious killer [Republicans], it is immoral to vote for the latter, and equally immoral to refrain from voting at all because "both are bad."[30]

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. She was a moment frozen in time, yet esteemed by many.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 05:43 PM
Aug 2012

Alan Greenspan, Ronald Reagan, Clarence Thomas and Paul Ryan. In the Reagan era they laughed how driving the deficit would finally end Social Security and social programs. Ryan is Koch-funded and intends to follow through with his masters' vision to end the New Deal with help from their paid shills in the media. And the most hateful of the Teabaggers idolized her and fancy themselves to be John Galt or that they would be Supermen if not held back by the Nanny State Government. None of these people have any respect or gratitude for what they were given in life, they believe it's all from their own talent. It's immature. And it's dangerous to life and limb to have these people in charge of anything. You've probably seen the video of the Teabaggers reviling the guy in Ohio with Parkinson's and tossing money to him like a dog. They have drunk this kool-aid.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
7. Agree, Rand is without conscience, the prime description of a psychopath.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:35 PM
Aug 2012

Anyone lacking the human desire for love, caring and understanding can be considered psychopathic.
I have always thought Rand would have applauded Hitler's lack of regard for humanity. Same league.


 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. people
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:52 PM
Aug 2012

need a new progressive ad to counter the pathological reasoning here. No love, just selfish self centered garbage. THOSE EYES. She was very shifty, like was she trying to hide her psychopathology? Rand thinks like this. Poor people of this country, if they win, to the trash heap of history you shall go, immediately!

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
14. Ayn Rand's insanity should be exposed to all humanity as well as the fact that Paul Ryan
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:04 PM
Aug 2012

has worshipped at her altar. I think this would topple Romney/Ryan imediately. The general public needs to know the implication of allowing thinking, such as Ryan's, gain any power what-so-ever in government.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
34. the fac that she's an atheist and Ryan worships her will shoot them both down.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:27 PM
Aug 2012

the right wing evangelicals will hate that

Liberal Insights

(109 posts)
37. Rand's problem isn't her atheism!
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:21 AM
Aug 2012

I'm a Christian clergyman and I have no problem with concientious atheists. I prefer them to many right wing "Christians". Those atheists dislike Rand as much as I do because what is objectionable about her is her totally irrational war against all forms of "altruism", best expressed in both her novels and in her "Virtue of Selfishness". She didn't hate Jesus becuase of his divinity, but because of his promotion of liberalism. See my http://theGodlessConservativeParty.org .

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
38. I have no problem with atheists either but the right wing does. Her problems are
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:28 AM
Aug 2012

manifest but her atheism will kill support for Ryan on their side of the aisle if they truly find out. (My grandma was an atheist. Everyone has the right to do what their soul needs.)

 

bupkus

(1,981 posts)
18. She looks and sounds like she'd be perfectly cast as the bride of Hitlerstein
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:32 PM
Aug 2012

Sexual identity aside, that is one ugly human being. And I believe her own self-hatred plays deeply into her so-called philosophy that is based on greed and hatred.

She has dead fish eyes.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
28. I'm surprised that conservatives buy into the thoughts and ideas of an athiest.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:38 PM
Aug 2012

I think she was just a selfish person.

trof

(54,256 posts)
29. Alan Greenspan was a 'close associate'. Tha explains a lot.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:48 PM
Aug 2012

Peikoff, along with Nathaniel Branden, Alan Greenspan, Barbara Branden, and a number of other close associates, who jokingly called themselves "The Collective," met frequently with Rand to discuss philosophy and politics, as well as to read and discuss Rand's forthcoming novel, Atlas Shrugged, in her Manhattan apartment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Peikoff

Vox Moi

(546 posts)
30. How can an Objectivist Atheist say that other beliefs are Evil ...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:54 PM
Aug 2012

.... unless you are saying that Atheists are Godlike?

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
31. Her books were fiction,
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:07 PM
Aug 2012

she idolized a killer and was probably certifiable when she was young, never mind when she was older.

No wonder the right worship her.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. Wow. I wonder what else she said. That's cold, heartless, illogical, and not part of a social group.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:15 PM
Aug 2012

We here in this country are part of a group. None of us is alone.

We use the streets, the street lights, the bridges, the interstates, the rail systems and subways, the purified tap water, the electricity from the municipality, the animal organizations maintained by the counties, the sanitation department, the governmental agencies that help us start businesses and complain about businesses who scam us, the FAA, the FDA to protect our food.

We use the government,and it costs. We are a group who necessarily share many things.

And we provide a safety net for the poorest of the poor, so that we don't have a situation like India or Mexico: wealthy people eating in restaurants looking over a view of barefoot poverty stricken beggars. We are better than that.

She is disgusting. That philosophy is disgusting.

I now understand the new GOP more than ever. I don't think I got the full picture before. It is a horrifying picture that doesn't belong in this country.

caveat_imperator

(193 posts)
36. Very horrifying
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:29 AM
Aug 2012

"wealthy people eating in restaurants looking over a view of barefoot poverty stricken beggars"

I think many of these uber-rich would be delighted with such a scene.

BrainMann1

(460 posts)
33. Creepy Republicans of old
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:06 PM
Aug 2012

It's a shame some republicans still think this way. It's as if they worships her.

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