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It's Time to Admit That Many Americans Are Stupid (Original Post) rsacamano Feb 2019 OP
You certainly can't catagorize this as Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #1
30 years of The Price is Right and other vapid TV garbage tomhagen Feb 2019 #2
Time to admit? Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #3
He lost me at "Hillary was a bad candidate..." spooky3 Feb 2019 #4
Hillary has many wonderful strengths . . . markpkessinger Feb 2019 #7
There is a huge range between "particularly gifted politician" and spooky3 Feb 2019 #10
If anyone thinks a vast swath of Americans aren't idiots..... AZ8theist Feb 2019 #5
I had a very different jury experience . . . markpkessinger Feb 2019 #8
I'm glad your experience was positive. AZ8theist Feb 2019 #11
Yes they are bdamomma Feb 2019 #6
Yup. Behind the Aegis Feb 2019 #9

markpkessinger

(8,396 posts)
7. Hillary has many wonderful strengths . . .
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:24 AM
Feb 2019

. . . But she is not and never was a particularly gifted politician.

AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
5. If anyone thinks a vast swath of Americans aren't idiots.....
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:00 PM
Feb 2019

All you need to do is serve on a jury.
Called to jury duty in Phoenix a while back, I was ASTOUNDED by the stupidity of my fellow "peers" in answering the lawyers and judges questions. I was shocked how oblivious some people are....

"Liberal arrogance" is nonsense. A LOT of Americans are just plain stupid. And proudly so....pathetic.

markpkessinger

(8,396 posts)
8. I had a very different jury experience . . .
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:44 AM
Feb 2019

. . . but then, it was NYC, not Arizona. It was an attempted rape case that was pretty open and shut. A young woman who was a student at Fashion Institute of Technology. As she walked home from classes late one night in Chelsea, she was suddenly grabbed and pulled behind an attendant's booth of an open-air parking lot. Lucky for her, a cop was walkikng his beat further down the block, heard her screams and decided to check it out. The cop pulled the guy off of her before he was able to do very much, although his penis was out of his trousers. The defendant didn't testify, nor did the defense provide any witnesses. In fact, the defense lawyer even admitted that his client had assaulted the woman, but insisted his intent was not to rape, but only to humiliate. It was not a convincing argument.

But even though the state's case was rock solid, and the defense really couldn't refute any of the actual evidence, the members of that jury, to a person, were all very concerned that the defendant receive a fair trial. So we took the time to go over every piece of testimony and evidence that had been presented during the two-day trial -- asking ourselves if we could find any holes in it, indeed asking oruselves if there were anything at all that would have introduced even a hint of reasonable doubt about the man's guilt. And there simply wasn't anything, and so we convicted him. Afterwards, while we were certgain we had made the correct finding, most of us still felt terrible about it, because knowing that your determination means that another human being will likely spend years or even decades in prison is just not a pleasant thing to think about, even if it was the right decision (and that's as it should be).

I came away from that experience feeling quite proud of my fellow jurors. But to get back to your point, I fully realize my experience may not have been at all typical.

AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
11. I'm glad your experience was positive.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 10:35 AM
Feb 2019

Mine, not so much. One of the questions asked by the prosecutor to the potential jury pool was "Do you believe that even though the defendant is charged with a crime you can render a fair verdict?".

One middle aged woman replied "Well, if he's here in court he must be guilty of something".

My jaw hit the floor.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
9. Yup.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:49 AM
Feb 2019

There is a dangerous combination of ignorance and stupidity. While many use the terms interchangeably, they are actually different. Those who support this "president" have shown a variety of levels of ignorance, stupidity, conspiratorial thinking, cognitive dissonance, partisanship, and bigotry. Some fall into one category, but most cross into a variety of those issues.

Love David and his show. His "Hatriot Mail" segments are a riot. It is interesting how many people go for the anti-Semitism angle and love to tell him to go back to his country (he's a native Argentinian).

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