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Maskless MAGATS confirm this.
demosincebirth
(12,541 posts)orangecrush
(19,597 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)I think we're smart enough.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)I'm getting into masks as a fashion item!
orangecrush
(19,597 posts)RVN VET71
(2,694 posts)Too stupid for Democracy or too stupid to live?
I wouldn't join in any of the MAGA protests against keeping the population safe from a deadly virus, but I would like to know how many of these sweaty, spit-spritzing are holes will contract the virus and die? Seriously, it may be that stupidity grants a fair number of the stupids a kind of herd immunity, an immunity that is lost when your cerebral cortex is activated.
Or not. Time and data gathering will tell.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)MAGATs get far too much attention and therefore seem that they are a larger percentage than they are. Media likes sideshows, circus acts, clowns and performers. The excitement of it it only comes second to the attention and ad sales from, if it bleeds, it leads. Profit!
Just off the top of my hat, from the poles in the past, I have more often seen that the majority of Americans prefer some very beneficial, sensible and essential things, overall. Yet, we don't get them. So, democracy is not bad or undeserved in that sense, it is more often ignored or under served.
The band of believers that didn't get a good education and have no idea that freedom comes with responsibilities and is reciprocal actually are a good reason for democracy because we can keep in mind that they are not representative of the whole or a majority and maybe we should both keep that in mind and make a bigger deal out of it.
Democracy rules! It also works, when it is unshackled from manipulative, vested interests that pervert and subvert the people's will or even place barriers before it. Ah, who got the popular vote?
Warpy
(111,318 posts)The problem now is that we have 2 groups engaging in groupthink (of course, we always think we're part of the correct group) and the margin between them really isn't great enough to determine much of anything, which is why we have a government blithely governing against the will of the majority.
What we need to do is expand voting, not contract it. Get some of those unsophisticated, apathetic people in there casting ballots. Focus groups are already doing this on a small scale, but they tend to err on the side of the witless who don't know enough to start asking any questions. Politics needs to include the alienated majority; focus groups need to include a few of the suspicious minority.
There are a lot of videos out there that are somewhat longer that describe the phenomenon and its use for determining everything from credit worthiness to locating a sunken nuclear submarine. In the latter case, a roomful of experts were all far off the mark, but the average turned out to be 600 yards from where the sub was finally found.
Individually, morons are morons. Put them into a large enough group, and they become an incredibly powerful problem solving tool. This is the foundation of democracy, but suffrage needs to be universal and voting needs to be compulsory for it to work.
rhiannon55
(2,671 posts)Chainfire
(17,587 posts)tell me, straight up, that majority rule is "mob rule."
We will find out if we are too stupid for Democracy in November.