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Rhiannon12866

(205,319 posts)
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 12:52 AM Sep 2020

Joy Reid Says Trump 'Physically Could Not Stand To Hear Truths About Himself' In Debate - MSNBC



Joy called President Trump’s debate performance ‘like a man who was out of control, that Donald Trump physically could not stand to hear truths about himself.’ Joy says the debate ‘was embarrassing for me.’ Aired on 09/29/2020.




Nicolle Wallace: Trump's Debate Performance Felt Like 'An Assault' On American Politics - MSNBC



MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace breaks down Donald Trump's performance in the first presidential debate and explains how Trump "abused" the debate process and moderator. Aired on 09/29/2020.




Joy Reid: Trump Acted Like 'An Angry Autocrat Who's Desperate To Hang On To Power' - MSNBC



Joy on Trump's behavior during the debate: "At this point, he's an angry autocrat who's desperate to hang on to power. And who sees the legal threat ahead of him. And the potential seizure of assets in his future. And the potential foreclosure of Trump Tower. And he's mad. And he does not understand why he has to even sit through a debate or sit for an election." Aired on 09/29/2020.


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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
1. Great clips, Rhiannon!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:03 AM
Sep 2020

Thanks so much for posting! I couldn't bear to watch the debate, although I saw a few little snippets here and there, but this was a great analysis!

Rhiannon12866

(205,319 posts)
3. Thanks! And this took place right after the debate, so I thought it was important
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:09 AM
Sep 2020

The only part that they didn't upload was the initial comment by Rachel Maddow. She spoke first and it was obvious that she was actually angry! And you didn't miss a whole lot, I tried watching but there were so many interruptions by Trump, he just wouldn't shut up, that it was extremely hard to follow. They are actually saying they might cancel additional debates since this one was so out-of-control and pointless...

cp

(6,626 posts)
2. Next two moderators have to be able to cut the mic
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:04 AM
Sep 2020

Tell Dumpy, you are violating the terms of the debate.
Next time you speak out of turn, your mic will be cut and Mr. Biden will get all your time.
If that means 85 minutes of Biden calmly speaking, fine.

Rhiannon12866

(205,319 posts)
4. Well, everyone here is calling for that and I sure wished for that while watching
Reply to cp (Reply #2)
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:13 AM
Sep 2020

But they discussed that possibility on MSNBC and they said it would never happen - since both "sides" need to agree to the terms and Trump and his enablers would never agree to it. He lives to sound off!

Rhiannon12866

(205,319 posts)
8. It reassured me that they all had the same reaction that I had!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:35 AM
Sep 2020

Not to mention other members of DU. The "debate" was practically pointless since there was practically no discussion of the issues put forward, Trump just kept interrupting with insults and whatever ideas in his head that he couldn't help getting in. I thought that their analyses were more informative than the actual "debate..."

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. "What are they doing?" Nicolle, you hve pointed your finger at THE question...
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:27 AM
Sep 2020

Are they deliberately trying to lose this thing?

Or something far more demonic?

OR. maybe they are all really, really stupid and just lucked out last time

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
10. Personally I don't think Trump will have a follow up debate
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:27 AM
Sep 2020

You know he hates this stuff... Kamala will debate Pence next but I Think Trump has had enough, and will not debate a next time. He may promise to debate, but he will consider it as a STUPID thing to do...

just my take... I could be wrong.

hkp11

(275 posts)
11. thank you for posting the MSNBC post debate videos!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 07:55 AM
Sep 2020

I couldn't watch the debates! Based on these post debate comments by Joy, Rachel and Nicholle, there should no more debates!! Drumpf is using these debates for a megaphone for himself - calling Proud White Boys to stand by and be ready during election day. Drumpf is an autocrat and wants to stay in power.

Rhiannon12866

(205,319 posts)
12. You're more than welcome!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:06 AM
Sep 2020

I felt much better after listening to them since I realized that my reaction wasn't just me! And you really can learn all you need to know from listening to them - it really was torture, no issues were discussed because Trump kept interrupting both Joe Biden and Chris Wallace! He could keep quiet for a minute, Joe Biden at one point really did tell him to shut up!

And that's why a lot have been saying that anymore debates would be pointless. Unless, that is, the moderator could shut off Trump's mic, but the team at MSNBC said that "both sides" would have to agree to that new rule - and Trump would never agree to it..

hkp11

(275 posts)
13. it would be great if Drumpf disagrees for more debates
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:18 AM
Sep 2020

but he knows that he would look weak. Even if the debate election commission had mic off rule if candidates do not follow the rules, Drumpf would start his bulldozing again when the mic is on again... Drumpf bulldozes the moderators, press, anyone who tries to stop him from talking. Morning Joe showed a clip from 2016 when Drumpf called in and Joe asked a question and Drumpf would not, but tried to interrupt with his talking points..so Joe said if you don't answer my question, I will cut you off and Joe went to break. How are the moderators going to cut off the debate from Drumpf from speaking?? Drumpf wants to get his talking points in.

Rhiannon12866

(205,319 posts)
14. I did catch that clip, I agree Trump's incorrigible
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:31 AM
Sep 2020

He expects it to be like his "rallies" where it's only about him and he can sound off on anything he wants. I found the part where he attacked Biden's son to be particularly painful, though Joe handled it well. They were talking about Beau, who had served and had died, but Trump kept trying to attack his son Hunter since that's one of his "talking points..."

hkp11

(275 posts)
15. yes just like his rallies
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:43 AM
Sep 2020

trying to get his talking points in a general debate where millions more are watching...Drumpf has no empathy so attacking even people who had tragedy in their lives is a given. Luckily, he couldn't get Hunter's Ukraine conspiracy theories into the debate!!

Btw, thank you for always posting videos!

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