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Rhiannon12866

(206,181 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:20 AM Dec 2020

Chris Hayes: The Rot Won't Go Away With Trump - All In - MSNBC



Chris Hayes breaks down the “dangerous delusions” of the Republican Party from just the past few days. “As [Trump] recedes from view, recedes from our attention, we are seeing just how deep the rot is inside the Republican Party.” Aired on 12/8/2020.




‘Ticking Time Bomb’ For Democracy: Chris On Why The Electoral College Needs To Go - All In - MSNBC



“If we do not change it, it will absolutely cause some kind of constitutional crisis and democratic breakdown. I am sure of that,” says Chris Hayes discussing the Electoral College. Aired on 12/8/2020.


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Chris Hayes: The Rot Won't Go Away With Trump - All In - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 OP
Agree... Mike Nelson Dec 2020 #1
When I think of Pence, I just think of him standing silently Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #2
I think... Mike Nelson Dec 2020 #3
You're right, he's a "company man" - supporting a very corrupt "company." Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #5
Good segments. Trump is just the tip of the iceberg, the Repubs are rotten to the core. Bluepinky Dec 2020 #4
Yup, Trump is just a symptom of a much deeper disease Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #6
And what they are saying about Biden and Harris. Bluepinky Dec 2020 #7
Yup, it'll be even tougher than with Obama since they're no longer even pretending Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #8
We have to do what they have done to us, position them as unacceptable freaks BeyondGeography Dec 2020 #9
I share Chris Hayes' outrage Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #10
I'm sorry that I missed that you'd posted this. ancianita Dec 2020 #11
No worries Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #13
Thanks. ancianita Dec 2020 #14
Hayes' electoral college argument is particularly important. Thanks! ancianita Dec 2020 #12

Mike Nelson

(9,970 posts)
1. Agree...
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:26 AM
Dec 2020

... most people see Loser Trump's lies. But, for example, do people see Pence as better? I think they do... and that style may be worse. He would team up with McConnell and do the same things, but worse.

Rhiannon12866

(206,181 posts)
2. When I think of Pence, I just think of him standing silently
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:34 AM
Dec 2020

When he participated in that debate was one of the first times I ever heard him speak and share an opinion, but then it was all about Trump, what Trump wanted and thought. I see him as the quintessential "yes man," the last thing we need is for him to switch over to McConnell. I know he had a radio show back in the day, but these days he seems to only be there to back up Trump.

Mike Nelson

(9,970 posts)
3. I think...
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:38 AM
Dec 2020

... he's playing directly to the Trump voter. His power is only in appealing to them. He's thinking of himself, and how to win a Republican primary.

Rhiannon12866

(206,181 posts)
5. You're right, he's a "company man" - supporting a very corrupt "company."
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:41 AM
Dec 2020

He knows where his loyalty lies - and that if he didn't step up as he did, Trump would have dumped him in a minute.

Bluepinky

(2,276 posts)
4. Good segments. Trump is just the tip of the iceberg, the Repubs are rotten to the core.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:40 AM
Dec 2020

We need to reestablish the fairness doctrine for starters, get the truth out there.

Rhiannon12866

(206,181 posts)
6. Yup, Trump is just a symptom of a much deeper disease
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 04:43 AM
Dec 2020

We can well remember how the Republicans, led by McConnell, did whatever they could to thwart Obama.

Bluepinky

(2,276 posts)
7. And what they are saying about Biden and Harris.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 05:30 AM
Dec 2020

Unless we win both Senate seats in Georgia, don’t expect much cooperation from a McConnell-led Senate. Biden will need to work around him.

Rhiannon12866

(206,181 posts)
8. Yup, it'll be even tougher than with Obama since they're no longer even pretending
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 05:36 AM
Dec 2020

Trump - and his insane supporters - have given them license to quit at any pretense and their obstruction is right out there in the open! We desperately need a majority since some of them are still in denial about the election!

BeyondGeography

(39,384 posts)
9. We have to do what they have done to us, position them as unacceptable freaks
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 06:01 AM
Dec 2020

They’re delusional and toxic, we’re the responsible grown-ups. If we can’t consistently convince enough Americans of that the country is doomed—people need to know that too. It’s called messaging.

Rhiannon12866

(206,181 posts)
10. I share Chris Hayes' outrage
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 06:14 PM
Dec 2020

And, at times, disbelief that this is happening in this country and that it's allowed to continue. These are scary times and I cannot imagine what history will make of this. January cannot come soon enough, but I fear that won't be the end of it. There are too many deluded people among us - and in leadership.

ancianita

(36,143 posts)
11. I'm sorry that I missed that you'd posted this.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 06:36 PM
Dec 2020

I got an email from a DU'er that appreciated Chris Hayes' recent reports and said I'd post more, but overlooked your existing post.

I'll try to do better.

Rhiannon12866

(206,181 posts)
13. No worries
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 06:42 PM
Dec 2020

It was a powerful segment and was worth a second look. It's just that my first DU gig back in the day was as an LBN mod, so I still look for duplicates. I originally thought it was one from last night, didn't realize at first that I'd posted it. Thanks for the important videos you post!

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