These Hospitalized COVID patients still refuse to get vaccinated

[magicguido]

Causing hardship for Health Care Workers; and Sickening others through their Ignorance

[Beachnutt]

1. Discharge them and send em a bill

[marble falls]

2. Effectively, that's what's happening.

[Beachnutt]

4. The moment they refuse to vaccinate give them

a quick educational video on vaccinations and if they still refuse the discharge them and take care of someone who lives in reality.

[jimfields33]

10. Can't they give them the vaccine as a method of treatment?

Trust me these patience are getting all kinds of drugs and other medical things that they are not told. Just jab them as part of the process.

[RKP5637]

15. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[riversedge]

5. yes, but if having Respiratory distress, they will be hospitalized. The bills are going to be BIG

and I am sure not all have insurance. tax dollars. even for the idiots. hate to say this but I am going

somewhat resentful at these antivaxxers who use resources--beds, equipment, nurses, RT's etc etc. I feel bad about it sometimes, and sometimes not. It did and does not have to be this way.

[forgotmylogin]

11. That's the thing! Options can be rated like Yelp.

0 - Get the shot - you may get it but likely will not go to hospital or die, likely paying only $ for OTC remedies and miss work.

$$$$+ - Roll the dice, don't get the shot - You have a higher chance of getting it. If you do, you might be lucky and just feel like crap and get by with Tylenol and cough syrup, but then you miss work, also might need to go to the hospital, paying potentially for ambulance, ER stay, Monoclonal Antibody treatment (if the hospital can do that)...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - Be on a ventilator, potential 50%+ chance of death.

Maybe it's because I'm a former D&D nerd, but if you're going to roll dice, don't you want to apply as many bonuses to succeed with minimal damage as possible?

Before I run through that crowd of rabid Orcs and roll that d20, I'm gonna ready my shield +5 to roll and chug a resist disease potion +10 to roll...There is always a chance of critical failure, but there's less chance if I take all the offered potential bonuses.

[forgotmylogin]

3. Does surviving COVID equal the protection from a vaccine?

I understand that there may be huge complications for the individual from potential long-Covid symptoms, but if they get the virus and survive then I presume they have antibodies built up. Is further inoculation better or just another teaspoon of water in the river?

I googled...

CDC:

Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/people-whove-had-covid-19-should-still-get-vaccinated-heres-why

Researchers say people who’ve had COVID-19 but remain unvaccinated are more likely to develop the disease again than those who’ve been vaccinated.
They note that people who developed COVID-19 last year probably didn’t have the Delta variant.
They add that there’s a possibility that people who’ve had COVID-19 may need only one dose of vaccine, although that issue needs more study.

USA Today:

Although antibodies from natural infection may provide some protection against the virus, evidence shows nothing protects against COVID-19 better than vaccines.

National Geographic:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/people-who-already-had-covid-19-should-still-get-vaccinated-scientists-urge

[ProudMNDemocrat]

6. Rand Paul? Bueller?

[BumRushDaShow]

8. The problem they found with the "immunity" from prior infection

is that the body mounted a more "diffuse" response to the infection vs the targeted response generated by a vaccine. E.g., some antibodies are formed to attack the spike but others might be created to attack other parts of the virus that can easily fend off neutralization. And thus prior infection doesn't give the type of protection needed to avoid a reinfection with a higher viral load.

In one respect, it's almost like getting just 1 dose of one of the vaccines (and a less pure one to boot) and then the body sortof "forgets" how to fight it off the next time it is exposed. This is why those who were previously infected have been told to go get vaccinated anyway.

[riversedge]

9. "Dr" @PaulRand had the covid but refuses to be vaccinated [unless he is lying]. Regardless, if

he had the jab or not, he, as a 'professional' [well, his fans think he is] yelling it from the rooftops to get vaccinated.

[NoMoreRepugs]

7. IMO we are witnessing the the MOST successful psyops operation in history.

Having spent a reasonable amount of time near the Ozarks area of Missouri I have witnessed the ignorance level, but once you’re in the middle of a near death experience and no light goes on that’s a whole new level of DUMBFUCKERY.

[femmedem]

24. Yes, psy-ops. It has caused people to be unable to differentiate between truth and falsehoods.

That woman who is growing more open to being vaccinated but isn't there yet says she hears bad things and good things, and that she needs to read more about the benefits of the vaccine before she'd be ready to take it.

And even prior to psy-ops, she suffered from poor education. She doesn't know how to evaluate claims that the vaccine changes DNA, for example, nor does she have any idea how to gauge whether an information source is trustworthy.

It's heartbreaking.

[sanatanadharma]

12. When one's very "identity"...

The insanity of stupidity (ignorance) shows when one's very "identity" becomes wrapped up in, taken as identical to choices, opinions, teams, ideas in the mind or any other bullshit baggage of labels and alternative realities.

Dying to be right.
Killing in defense of the ego.

[krkaufman]

27. p.s.

Dying to be Right.

[Warpy]

13. Every single one of those people is in there because of that fucking grifter

and this video illustrates how hard it is to kill off a belief. The stupider the belief, the harder it is to kill.

There needs to be a reckoning.

[SharonAnn]

20. Don't forget the Russian psy-ops in this.

[SharonAnn]

21. Don't forget the Russian psy-ops in this.

[RKP5637]

14. Send them home to die, hopefully not infecting others at home. I'm so tired of

this BS. You can lead a horse to water, but not force them to drink it. If they have received all of the educational information on the benefits of vaccination ... and still refuse ... well, that's the end of the line IMO. ... waste no more critical resources on them.

[dalton99a]

16. What a fucking waste of resources. They should have been left at home.

[NurseJackie]

17. Exactly.

Thank you.

[llashram]

18. too bad

so sad. Bye? Glad to see you leave, though...

[magicguido]

19. Be sure not to run into any of these Dangerous Fools or YOU will have to Quarantine for 2 weeks

[TalenaGor]

22. the disease infested Republican party

Unclean!!!

[Ziggysmom]

23. Sorry, but if I were still a nurse, I don't think I'd run as fast to her room as I would to a

vaccinated patients room. Problem is that most all the fools taking up hospital beds now are not vaccinated. So disgusting. Plus after the Covid infection these assholes will be applying for SSI/SSDI too. Sucking up resources we all need.
Our only hope for normalcy is an effective treatment. Wonder if the morons would refuse that, too?

[irisblue]

25. The coming financial crisis due to the massive numbers of these fools is a scary thought

Hospitals need supplies

Hospitals need to pay staff

Looming disaster ahead

[Jetheels]

26. I'm sorry but nobody is this fucking stupid.

At this point the willfully unvaccinated are saboteurs.
Fighting masking and vaccination is their way of kissing tfg’s ring.
Masking and vaccination has gone from being politicized to weaponized.
The unvaccinated wear their status like a suicide bomber wears a vest.
I don’t know how these healthcare workers can stand these patients.
I would have a separate door for them at hospitals and send them home with a bottle of bleach and a can of apple flavored horse paste (ivermectin).

[Skittles]

34. they voted for Donald Fucking Trump

they ARE this fucking stupid

[myccrider]

35. Only partially true, imo

I know vaccine hesitant and anti-vax people who aren’t especially enamored with Trump.

The anti-vaxxer had fallen for all the anti-vaccine propaganda before Covid and won’t listen to the science. She was quoting all the autism bs before Covid but now has devolved to Plandemic level bat-shittery. She caught Covid last fall and figures ‘natural’ immunity is far superior to ‘unnatural’ immunity.

The vaccine hesitant are either apolitical but have listened to a lot of social media crud or talk from friends who have ‘heard’ bad things about the vaccine or are culturally Republican, but didn’t like Trump, and have been influenced by more conservative media/social media.

One of the hesitant was a younger guy who is not political but thought he would just be able to fight it off if he got it. He was pretty strict about wearing a mask but he did catch it last fall, had a moderately uncomfortable bout and figured he now has antibodies. Delta finally convinced him to get vaccinated when some friends got pretty sick with it. One was naturally immune from having Covid when he did, but ended up catchin’ the D and getting even sicker, just not bad enough to be hospitalized.

I do know a few Trumpers, too. Now they do refuse the vaccine because of TFG.

[Botany]

28. I have been read "the bad stuff" but not the good stuff. God she sounds like Sarah Huckabee.

Listen honey you don't have to read about the vaccine people like this guy David Kessler, has already done the needed reading.

From wiki:
David Aaron Kessler Chief Science Officer of the White House COVID-19 Response Team since 2021.
After graduation from Amherst College in 1973, Kessler studied medicine at Harvard University, obtaining an M.D. degree in 1979. While at Harvard, Kessler obtained a J.D. degree in 1977 from the University of Chicago Law School. While serving his residency in pediatrics at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, he worked as a consultant to Republican senator Orrin Hatch from Utah, particularly on issues relating to the safety of food additives, and on the regulation of cigarettes and tobacco. From 1984 to 1990, Kessler simultaneously ran a 431-bed teaching hospital in New York City and taught at the Columbia Law School and the Albert Einstein College of Medicine.

[Texaswitchy]

29. Silly stupid people.

Cannot admit they were wrong.

Rather die.

[Skittles]

33. honestly

I think they are too stupid to know they were wrong. Remember, these folk thought DONALD FUCKING TRUMP would make a swell president

[LisaL]

30. Not so long ago, they used to tell people to wait 3 months after covid before getting vaccinated.

They are going to have natural immunity. Yea, it might not last that long and so on, but getting them vaccinated after they had covid is not as big a concern as getting vaccines to those who haven't been infected yet.

[sellitman]

31. Darwin will take over

These stupid ass people shouldn't be taking up hospital rooms.

I don't care if this sounds heartless.

Not at this point.

What will the next variant bring? Will it make all our vaccinations worthless?

That's what I'm worried about.

[Rhiannon12866]

32. If they don't trust medical advice, why the hell are they in the hospital??!