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This will encourage people to get vaccinated
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,849 posts)Doctors are being overtaxed by the hubris of the un-vaccinated. There is no excuse for this. Misinformation will kill and not in a quiet manner.
Doctors and those working with them need all of us to get vaccinated and stop being STUPID!
thucythucy
(8,107 posts)should have their license suspended until they publicly recant.
Going public with Q-anon Covidiot nonsense should be considered a form of malpractice.
thucythucy
(8,107 posts)This is BS, yes? I imagine it means that Florida simply stops tallying new cases over the weekend, but if someone knows different please tell us.
If that is indeed the case, MSNBC should think twice before posting that as "news"--it'll only give the Covidiots a bit of ammunition with which to dupe themselves and others.
Fritz Walter
(4,292 posts)So, a year after firing his pandemic statistician, he's manipulating numbers any way he can.
He doesn't give a flying fuck how many people die, just so long as the state stays "open for business" and he appears presidential in his own self-image.
Oh and don't forget how he is raking in huge donations to his PAC from the manufacturer of the monoclonal treatment.
thucythucy
(8,107 posts)as if it were a fact.
Well, as a poster below says, it may be that no new cases have been "reported" but it certainly doesn't mean people aren't getting sick and dying.
That the people who write these headlines aren't more in tune with reality is just shocking.
captain queeg
(10,281 posts)Paladin
(28,281 posts)Warpy
(111,412 posts)so good for them. They're not booting unvaccinated patients out the door. Yet.
If these people, especially but not exclusively in the south, insist on being belligerently stupid, we're likely to see some pretty uncomfortable triage of people least likely to survive the ICU.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Frustrations but this is not the way to handle it. They took an oath, once that is broken it is 100x easier to break it again the next time some group of Dr. get together and decide I am no longer doing X procedure this person let themselves get to be 400lbs knowing the risk or hey the person should have never jumped out of the plane. These seem like silly examples but this would be a libertarian dream come true. They should do what they can and when the hospital is full
.it is full no more can get in. Big sign in front NO VACANCY
If and when the general public / Industry get fed up with bull💩 from these idiots and their dear leader then they should be out in droves over this. Pushing back on every anti-vaxxer every where, all the time. Should have been already but still we only see the antivaxers on tv at these town halls / school board and rallies in places designated a COVID emergency. We should have a White Feather campaign as England did back during WW I. Its ridiculous how DT and his minions have been able to walk around freely in society with out any ramifications for their actions.This pandemic should have been mostly gone by now we are still dealing with it and people are still dying from it purely because of these people. That should make everyone mad at this point.
Hekate
(90,956 posts)Im asking because so many have slung around the phrase, and all I can recall are some scraps of translated Ancient Greek. Is there a 21st Century version that makes sense for our time?
I just thought Id ask the next person.
Texin
(2,600 posts)do not deliberately cause harm with intent. Doctors are given wide latitude to make emergency decisions to triage patients in extreme situations when there are many casualties (as in war, accidents, etc.) or illnesses, and make decisions not to treat those in extremis or who are so severely injured or ill that there is no reasonable expectation of continuing their lives.
Thats pretty much what I thought. Hippocrates lived a long, long time ago, and while he is rightly revered as one of the fathers of Western medicine, much has changed since his time. Young doctors today are not literally swearing the Hippocratic Oath, yet people talk as though they do and make up bits to suit their own notions.
I think any doctor throughout human history in a mass death situation (battlefield or epidemic) will have learned some form of triage, because some people clearly cannot be saved and hopelessly trying to save them means someone else will die who didnt have to.
pfitz59
(10,402 posts)"Contrary to popular belief, the Hippocratic Oath is not required by most modern medical schools, although some have adopted modern versions that suit many in the profession in the 21 st century. It also does not explicitly contain the phrase, "First, do no harm," which is commonly attributed to it." https://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/greek/greek_oath.html#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20popular%20belief%2C%20the%20Hippocratic%20Oath%20is,no%20harm%2C%22%20which%20is%20commonly%20attributed%20to%20it.
lostnfound
(16,195 posts)Without walking in their shoes.