'The View' Goes Full Progressive On Biden's Gutted Budget Bill

[Uncle Joe]

Edit to add, personally I expected this kind of more intense focus by the corporate media on the actual contents of the bill and/or switch in favorability as items were eliminated.

I believe the true test of their sincerity on the issues will be the long term whether the Build Back Better Bill is successful or not, otherwise it's just more corporate media manipulation.

[magicguido]

1. How productive would Manchin or Sinema be if they looked like this?

[George II]

3. Keep in mind that Manchin and Sinema are on board with the final Senate product, it's a handful...

...in the House who held up the vote on and progress on the bill Thursday.

[TiberiusB]

5. So on board they wanted to get a vote on the Infrastructure bill first

Why anyone should trust those two is beyond me. There is nothing more than a framework in place now. Nothing is guaranteed, and, unless I missed something, neither Manchin or Sinema are on record saying they will even vote for what's currently proposed. The House is doing the right thing by forcing a simultaneous vote. There wouldn't be a bill at all if it weren't for the House and the Progressive members fighting back against the corporate wing of the party trying to utterly gut it and push through only the business friendly giveaway that is the infrastructure bill. Hell, even the current BBB bill is mostly a laundry list of things that don't in any way threaten the stranglehold of the wealthy on our economy and government.

[George II]

6. You have a problem trusting DEMOCRATS? President Biden trusts them. Majority Leader Schumer....

...trusts them, as does Speaker Pelosi. Why not you? Have you ever met them or spoken to them?

[TiberiusB]

14. I mean, you did type "Democrats" in all caps, so clearly, there is nothing left to discuss.

Why would I struggle to trust a man who labels the working class as having an "entitlement" problem? Who blocks clean energy initiatives to protect fossil fuel interests? Who won't back common sense voting legislation? How about the woman who regularly meets with corporate donors but not constituents to raise money and then miraculously comes out and opposes the very provisions, like drug pricing, she claimed to once support? Who also can't seem to find a reason to defuse the filibuster, even for desperately needed voting laws? Who refuses to raise the corporate tax rate one bit even after Trump and the GOP slashed it? Is this where we pretend that Manchin and Sinema didn't just flip the apple cart and drag out negotiations for months to effectively strip from the BBB bill virtually all progressive priorities and many of President Biden's own campaign promises for no better reason than to protect their corporate donors? That everything must be, once again, paid for on the backs of the working class? Come on. Biden and Schumer and Pelosi trust them? Really? You mean after months of conceding ground and letting the BBB bill get whittled away they, with all the major "pay for" provisions removed, consider them honorable team players? Would you expect them to come out and say otherwise even as they are trying to drag this legislation to the finish line? Pelosi has the midterms on her mind, and with all the gerrymandering, voter suppression, election board tampering, retirements, and Covid, it's clear she wants a legislative "win" for her caucus. She'd be thrilled if the House just folded over and passed the infrastructure bill and let the BBB sink or swim on the whimsy of two senators and a group of corporate friendly dems in the House.

[George II]

2. Who is "The Rational National"? We watch The View every day, and saw that segment...

It was more than nine minutes, this guy sliced most of it out and gave us barely four minutes in two pieces, and then spent more than that time analyzing his cherry-picked points.

The overall tone of the discussion wasn't what he's trying portray. Unfortunately he cut out some of the more positive parts of the discussion, including some praise for Biden, and it was never referred to as "Biden's Gutted Budget Bill".

And no, they did NOT "go full progressive" at all. He wants us to believe that Ana Navarro went "full progressive"?

[Moebym]

9. It appears he has his own biases.

Not as "rational" as he claims.

[niyad]

4. Apart from the very interesting commentary, I was surprised looking at Whoopi. Am I

wrong? It looks like she has put on a great deal of weight since I last saw her several months ago.

[George II]

7. You are right. I'm bad at guessing weight, but looks to be up to maybe 50 pounds. Hope she's okay.

[niyad]

8. As do I.

[Rebl2]

12. Why are

you talking about her weight. Not the discussion here

[niyad]

13. Amazingly enough, people may address whatever part of a post suits them. Others

here are discussing the salient points, and doing a fine job. I happened to see a detail that has me a bit concerned. These things happen.

[demosurvivor]

10. Why have they flipped?

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This was no where near their opinions, nor on their radar prior to now. Is the party changing? Or is it something else? Time will tell. It sure sounds suspicious to me.

Dropping additional medicare benefits, and free college was a huge step backwards. No doubt.

Its quite obvious as you get older and need additional dental and vision help, the help will not be there. It will happen to all of us eventually. And sucking up what savings you may have, to pay for such service,s is ridiculous. Losing your house to pay for such medical/dental bills is not acceptable.
IE: It's now over 30 THOUSAND dollars to get ONE dental arch at Clear Choice. How many out there can afford that? Ya know, not everyone was born with perfect teeth.

Free college? If we don't educate our people, one an only imagine how that will end up. Nobody should have to payback loans for college for 40 years.

When in the hell are we going to take care of the people? It's just common sense to make full dental and vision, the standard, for the richest country on the planet. I just don't get it.

[tiredtoo]

11. Nice to see folks here

understanding the problem with (corporate/establishment) Democrats.