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magicguido

(6,315 posts)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:01 AM Nov 2021

Who to Blame for Virginia?



Biden should have grabbed Manchin by the balls and said if you don't deliver we'll lose VA. You only represent .5 of the populations; we represent over 70%

We didn't deliver; voters said; "if the Dems can't deliver; time to vote red.
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Who to Blame for Virginia? (Original Post) magicguido Nov 2021 OP
The shift from blue to red is well an embarrassment... Historic NY Nov 2021 #1
A progressive candidate would have smoked "Donny Jr." Youngkid. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2021 #5
I dont think you know Virginia politics if you believe this to be true bottomofthehill Nov 2021 #6
Why should we run against Trump? Claustrum Nov 2021 #2
Nope - It wasn't that Dems weren't credible as opponents of Trump FBaggins Nov 2021 #3
Totally agree with post above - cilla4progress Nov 2021 #4
Youngkin spent 20 million of his own dollars bottomofthehill Nov 2021 #7
I think this is the real story. cilla4progress Nov 2021 #8

bottomofthehill

(9,332 posts)
6. I dont think you know Virginia politics if you believe this to be true
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:13 AM
Nov 2021

Centrist candidates are what have turned and kept the state blue until last night.

Claustrum

(5,052 posts)
2. Why should we run against Trump?
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:07 AM
Nov 2021

It's like if republicans are making the whole election about Obama or Hillary, none of whom are on the ballot. I hate Trump as much as everyone around here. But lets not run against him until he actively inserts himself in the race. He didn't do that for VA.

I want to see justice done to Trump but it's not because I want to use it for election purposes. It's because I want justice done.

FBaggins

(28,619 posts)
3. Nope - It wasn't that Dems weren't credible as opponents of Trump
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:14 AM
Nov 2021

It was that Trump was never on the ballot in enough voters' minds.

This shouldn't be news. Biden won because enough people wanted to get rid of Trump... but he had no coattails because other Republicans couldn't be stained as mini-Trumps just because they were in the same party... and actual mini-Trumps were in districts where that wasn't a negative thing.

cilla4progress

(26,487 posts)
4. Totally agree with post above -
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:16 AM
Nov 2021

Their candidate was "fresh", "new", "brash". American voters love - need - this. Shallow.

Ours was a has- been who we ran because he had the connections, $$. Who funded Youngkin?

bottomofthehill

(9,332 posts)
7. Youngkin spent 20 million of his own dollars
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:16 AM
Nov 2021

from Forbes

Youngkin has already been putting his fortune to work in the gubernatorial race. Since January, the former Carlyle CEO has loaned $16.5 million to his campaign, making up nearly half of his fundraising haul of $35.3 million. Despite his wealth and connections from his time at Carlyle, which was founded by three of America’s wealthiest private equity magnates—David Rubenstein, Bill Conway and Daniel D’Aniello—Youngkin hasn’t been as successful in attracting donations from billionaires: Forbes found eight billionaires and spouses of billionaires who donated a combined $270,000 to Youngkin’s campaign, including Koch family scion William Koch and Tennessee’s former Republican Governor Bill Haslam.

cilla4progress

(26,487 posts)
8. I think this is the real story.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:22 AM
Nov 2021

We had a chance to keep money out of politics. Once the Rs bought the Supreme Court, who determined (Roberts) that money IS speech, the writing was on the wall...

Also, that there is no racism in electoral politics...

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