GOP Men Hardly Punished For Illegal Votes; Black Woman Given Six Years For Sign-Up Error - TRMS

[Rhiannon12866]

Janai Nelson, associate director-counsel for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, talks with Rachel Maddow about the case of Pamela Moses, who was sentenced to 6 years in prison over a misunderstanding of her eligibility to register to vote, a significantly longer sentence than for Republican men who actually cast illegal votes. Aired on 02/03/2022.

[lapfog_1]

1. voter intimidation

they want every black person who committed a crime (ever) to not vote... by sentencing her to 6 years for attempting to REGISTER to vote (with the help of the parole officer)... they are sending a message.

[Rhiannon12866]

2. Then there was that gentleman in Texas (also black) who stood for hours in line to vote between jobs

He also didn't realize he was not yet eligible, so he was immediately locked up as well. I remember that there was a GoFundMe which raised a great deal to pay for his bail and a lawyer. Wonder what these 2 voters have in common??

[raging moderate]

24. Yes, we must help this guy, too! What is his name?

We must help Pamela Moses AND this guy! What about Go Fund Me?

It would be nice to see that both of them get enough money to live without financial problems for a VERY long time!

[Rhiannon12866]

29. This happened during the last election.

The story and the GoFundMe link were posted here at the time. His cause went national and he received many times what he needed to make bail and he retained a lawyer who was determined to fight for his cause. But that was only one case, the issue is obviously persistent and systemic as this woman's case demonstrates. She never even voted, only mistakenly got permission that she was now eligible, yet she inexplicably faces prison while the white men who knowingly committed voter fraud got probation.

[Dustlawyer]

30. Most of the 1/6 assholes got much less.

[NJCher]

3. We need to stage an uproar

Remember the truck driver who got life but there were 1 million signatures on a petition?

Something on the order of that needs to happen.

I’m going to check around to see if there is anything being done. If not perhaps I’ll start it here.

[Rhiannon12866]

4. Unlike those white Republican men, this woman never even voted, only got permission!

[NJCher]

5. This simply cannot be allowed to stand

The judge sounds like a a real jerk.

[Rhiannon12866]

7. Rachel obviously felt the same way, it's important that she's publicizing this!

[NJCher]

9. Free Hearts

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I could tell she was angry before she even started the story. In fact I don’t think I’ve ever seen her so angry.

I would hope her show would be helpful in building awareness of any efforts to mitigate this wrongful decision.

An organization called free hearts is helping her. I will contact them and post about what I find.

[Rhiannon12866]

11. Terrific idea! If you add information here, I'll look for it!

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

6. In case anyone is still in doubt...

THIS is the SYSTEMIC RACISM*** we've been talking about!

***This and so much more.

[Ferrets are Cool]

8. This

[CaptainTruth]

28. It's an entire superiority complex. Rich white male "Christian" superiority.

I think we oversimplify when we say it's just about race. I mean, it is about race, but it's about more than just race.

It's about a belief in superiority based on income level, ethnicity, color, religion, & more.

[secondwind]

10. K&R for visibility......

[samsingh]

12. Our leaders may want to keep a spotlight on this tragedy at the highest levels. Are they listening?

[jaxexpat]

22. That's a good question.

I'm thinking that 99% of them hear it loudly and clearly.

However, since this sort of injustice stands so starkly, even unto our "modern times", I wonder if there is a tendency toward soft stepping around the subject for some Democrats who have, perhaps, legitimate concern for the slim margins of their elections. That, to the extent that it is true, is the ultimate in "voter intimidation" and shouts to a falseness in American democracy and grumbles of an unrepentant stain on our collective American soul.

[BlueGreenLady]

13. This is so wrong.

[dem4decades]

14. Trump and his minions tried to steal an entire election, Years served-0. That poor woman-6.

This country sucks, enough of the greatest democracy bullshit.

[not fooled]

32. Sadly,

I've come to the same conclusion.

This country sucks, enough of the greatest democracy bullshit.

[niyad]

15. Thoroughly disgusted KNR.

[raging moderate]

16. Is there a Go Fund Me for Pamela Moses?

It would be nice to see her given a huge windfall to fund her celebrations right after she is released.

[70sEraVet]

17. Don't expect Tennessee's governor to grant her clemency.

[bullwinkle428]

18. 6 years was the very same length for the Chicago cop that shot Laquan

McDonald in the back 16 times. BTW, he was released yesterday, after serving only 3 years, for "good behavior".

Former Chicago police officer Jason Van Dyke is a free man. Van Dyke served less than half of his nearly seven-year prison term for the 2014 fatal shooting of Laquan McDonald.

Van Dyke is white. McDonald, 17, was black. It is a case that roiled the city, caused widespread protests and sparked court mandated police reforms after a blistering report by the U.S. Department of Justice. Among the reports findings: Chicago Police routinely used excessive force and violated the rights of people of color.

It was Oct. 20, 2014, when a Chicago police responded to reports that a black teenager carrying a knife was breaking into cars. Laquan McDonald had slashed some tires of a truck and was being followed on a southwest side Chicago street by a numbers of police officers waiting for a unit with a Taser.

Jason Van Dyke and his partner were among the the last officers to arrive. Van Dyke got out of his car, and within seconds, he shot McDonald 16 times — many of the bullets striking McDonald after he lay crumpled on the ground.

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/03/1077574977/jason-van-dyke-chicago-police-released-laquan-mcdonald

[IronLionZion]

19. Black women can't serve on the supreme court or federal reserve either

so appropriate punishment should be assigned according to how closely someone resembles historical supreme court justices.

If someone "looks foreign" their passport and birth certificate are invalid and they are not allowed to vote. If they look Russian, it's OK.

[cayugafalls]

20. How do we come back from this? It is a cancer embedded in our nation.

I have no answers...

Sickening.

[magicguido]

21. meanwhile trump and his clown car of criminal Insurrectionist goons walk free on the golf course

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[FailureToCommunicate]

23. AND, the those who sentenced her to jail are making political hay about it!

[ck4829]

25. This is disgusting

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https://disgupedia.freeforums.net/

[Oppaloopa]

26. Like the 4 people from the Villages in Florida double voting

[keithbvadu2]

27. VA gov Glenn Youngkin's 17 y/o son tried to vote illegally (twice).

VA gov Glenn Youngkin's 17 y/o son tried to vote illegally (twice).

IOIUAAR

[erronis]

34. Should be at least 6 years for the first. Life for the second (repeat offender.)

When justice is fair.....

[BeckyDem]

31. That is Murika, my friend.

K&R

[erronis]

33. So were the four white men who committed crimes be banned from voting from now on?

Just asking in a hypothetical mode.

Of course they won't. Their records will be expunged by the white county clerks/etc.

[questionseverything]

35. This is why we need federal voting laws

Just like federal pot laws

Otherwise the red states will keep using honest mistakes and/ or petty infractions to waste money locking people up

[Uncle Joe]

36. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread Rhiannon.