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(39,319 posts)Nice to see Ian in good form
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)agreed to see Ian in good form.
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)bring back so many memories
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)But the recording was done poorly even according to Ian.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)it's perfect. period.
i got the cd re-master and it's really good. so, so, SO glad they didn't remix the album.
Fucking Pete Townshend DID a remix of Quadrophenia and left out a couple key sounds from the vinyl pressing... the "seal barking" in Dirty Jobs and the dad saying "Go on..." in Cut My Hair.
When a band pulls shit like that it just... breaks my heart.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)But come on now...
Aqualung?
Songs from the Woods?
Ian did some pretty great stuff later too. And frankly, even in the 21st century, he has put out some great music if you care to explore.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)saw every tour up to "Minstrel" which was a good recovery from the abysmal "War Child". but after that they kinda lost me with the psuedo-classical thang. but my love for that band will never be diminished.
looking over their whole career arc... it's Benefit that has my heart. it's Martin Barre's best work... every note is perfectly placed.
Great thread, btw, Bonobo!
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)That was the band that got me into a life of music...
bbernardini
(9,938 posts)I hadn't hunted down any footage from this tour, as I kept hearing how awful his voice is these days. What he did sing wasn't that bad at all. He's working within his limitations, and still playing the hell out of the flute and acting like a nutjob on stage.
I quite liked the TAAB2 album as well.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)And cleverly, he has hired a young representation of himself to sing half the parts and it sounds great!
And yes, I love TAAB2 as well! Very happy with it indeed!
Is Ian and Jethro Tull the most underrated band ever? For god"s sake, they have been going since what 1968 virtually nonstop? That's 45 years.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,020 posts)Suddenly girls had a whole new outlook on the long haired "second flute"
Thanks Ian!
And thank, Bobobo, for the post.
Loge23
(3,922 posts)A colleague saw it recently down here in Fort Pierce in the great, true blue county of St. Lucie, FL (Thank you very much!) and said it was just excellent!
I recounted one of the very finest shows I ever saw - spring of '70 or '71 at the old Fillmore East in NYC.
I went to high school a few subway stops away and had the great fortune to attend quite a few now-classic shows there. $5.50 brought you a orchestra seat for 2 or 3 bands that would now qualify as all-time greats.
The Tull show was much anticipated. We pretty much wore the grooves off of the first album with Cat's Squirrel, and the still-great and aforementioned here LP's, Stand-Up & Benefit. That's what we expected to hear.
A sole spotlight illuminated the bare stage, curtained, and occupied only by a stool. Ian Anderson came out with an acoustic guitar, sans flute. He blithely explained to to crazed crowd that "me and the boys had a bit of a row backstage, and I'm afraid to report that they decided to ship back to the UK and left me here to carry on. So here I am".
He began by strumming the chords to what I came to know as My God. "People what have you done..." We were transfixed, bummed, but willing to listen since it sounded so good. All the years at the Fillmore, I don't recall anyone ever interrupting a performer or booing.
Listen to John Mayall's great Turning Point album recorded there and you'll hear polite applause to the most amazing music.
Anyway, back to Tull. When the part came when the band kicks in, the curtain flew open, lights went on, and the band was in full bore behind Anderson! He kicked the stool over, threw his guitar and grabbed his flute. The show was on.
All-time classic! We brought Aqualung later that week!
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Ian still kicks the stool down the same way at that point in My God, by the way.
Really there is no band like Tull. My God is such an amazing piece and you saw it at its inception!
Loge23
(3,922 posts)No wonder I remember it - you couldn't strike a match anywhere at the Fillmore without the ushers flashing you! Besides, I think I had finals the next day!
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)Or were they already?
Loge23
(3,922 posts)St. Lucie is an oasis between the bright red Indian River county (Vero Beach) to the north and Martin county (Stuart) to the south.
Some reps still win local races (mayor, council, etc.) but the county always goes blue nationally.
We're particularly proud of ousting psycho Allen West after he took Martin and tied in Palm Beach county!
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)What is a good place to live around Palm Beach county? I'm checking out the area now that Florida looks less red! Is there any area you'd call more progressive or liberal in that general zone? It's seems fairly affordable from a distance but I've always wondered if it's too right wing, Southern after life in California.
Loge23
(3,922 posts)Sorry for the delay.
Palm Beach county (PBC) is a mixed bag when it comes to blue/red. South county, Boca Raton, Delray Beach, Boynton tends towards the red side. Central county, West Palm Beach (WPB) city, is decidedly blue. If you like small city life, this may be for you. WPB is a nice little town. Then back to the red in north county, Jupiter and Palm Beach Gardens. North county is quite nice - Jupiter could use a few more libs!
Continuing north into Martin county - republican hell. Although Stuart is a lovely town.
St. Lucie is next, the blue oasis between Martin and Indian River.
Come on down!
Check out the Palm Beach Post for some local news, a longtime liberal newspaper. www.palmbeachpost.com
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)The online paper is a great way to check out the local feeling. It does feel small town compared to LA. I am hearing that real estate is starting to climb up again, it was way too high before the crash. I'll have to check a flood map, very conscious of how living right on the ocean might be a very bad idea. My other concern is the heat, I guess it's okay from November to April. I like how green the state is and how close it is to the Caribbean isles, I'm going to check it out this winter. thanks again!
Loge23
(3,922 posts)Couple of comments:
Be careful to not get too close to the ocean. We do get hurricanes and although the houses are built well down here (especially those built in post-2002) the storm surge (what destroyed the Jersey shore and Rockaway NY) is tough to guard against.
There are plenty of neighborhoods within a short drive to the shore without being in danger.
The heat? Yeah, it does get hot. The weather changes in late-May when the humidity kicks in. It's not that bad until August, when you have basically had enough already. The weather reports are amusing - 90F every day with a chance of showers in the afternoon for four months! I think September is the worst month - probably because I'm still "programmed" from my NY upbringing for fall weather then. By mid-October, the humidity is usually gone, the first blessed "cold" front rolls in and life begins anew for another beautiful season. The best month? Probably April. Warm, low humidity and you can get a table in your favorite outdoor restaurant (all the snowbirds leave by Easter traditionally).
Fun thing is, any post-summer blues you may be used to are replaced by the joy of the return of beautiful weather!
It's a good place overall, good luck to you and enjoy your trip.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)NICO9000
(970 posts)Haven't seen Ian or Tull in five years, so I bought a really good seat for this tour. It was a lot of fun, but I have to admit that I favored the first half (TAAB) more than the second (TAAB2). It did my heart good to see a bunch of old farts including myself singing along to the whole of a 45-minute, 40-year-old album.
The band was a lot better than any of the incarnations of J. Tull I've seen in the past decade or so. And Ian sounded fine to me, so maybe he just had a bad night somewhere else.
johnsolaris
(220 posts)Hi,
Back in the day the first concert I attended was Jethro Tull with a fledgling unknown opening act called Yes. I had just graduated from high school 6 weeks earlier & was off to college in the fall. It was truly one of the greatest concerts I have ever seen, even after all these years. I went out the next day & purchased the Yes album & a few days later the latest from Tull. what memories !!!
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)At the time, it felt like I was seeing them so late into their career that it must be near the end.
That was 31 years ago, 12 years after they started. They have now been going for 45 years, so in reality even THAT was early in their careers!
Old rockers can still rock. So "Too old to rock and roll" was right. Ian sings "You're never too old to rock and roll if you're too young to die"
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)fortunately there is a "complete concert" bootleg which i also had back in the day. hearing it today brings back many memories of the magic they had in their shows back then.
My favorite part is at 40 minutes is just before "I see you shuffle in the courtroom..." where Jeffrey Hammond gives his little speech introducing the instrumentation...
"Ian is now playing a rhythmic link sequence consisting of alternating bars of Cmin/sus4 and F major. This quiet and very pleasant interlude precedes an entry by Johns organ which then unites with the guitar to provide a textural overlay rich in percussive counter-rhythms. Young Gerald Bostock's poem is then taken up once more- sung, of course, by Mr. Anderson and after a further ten bars the guitarist, the drummer and I myself will blend and aspire towards eager participation in anticipation of the orgasmic sensation to follow".
I saw the Benefit tour prior to this and the Passion Play tour to follow. PP i saw 6 times- two nights at home, two at Madison Square Garden and twice a Nassau Colosseum. (the 4 NY shows i had backstage access).
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Ishoutandscream2
(6,663 posts)Very stoned crowd, including yours truly. I actually thought then, as now, that Ian was pretentious.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Pretentious? Yes, I suppose so. But he has a sense of humor and laughs at himself about his pretentiousness so that nullifies it in my eyes.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)Put on the Audio DVD first thing and I'm halfway through side one...
Fuck... it's even better than i remember it and I remember every note!
Getting goosepimple rushes at a mile-a-minute. The audio is crisp and just as distorted as it should be in all the right places....
And the mix is... superb.
I'm laughing, crying and shitting myself all at the same time!
Buy it. Period.