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Rhiannon12866

(205,360 posts)
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 03:01 AM Nov 2022

Why some Republicans are finally speaking out against Trump's future in the party - Washington Week



A rift is growing among Republicans over the party’s current and future leaders. This week, prominent members of the GOP called on the party to put former President Trump behind them after multiple election losses. Still, Trump remains popular among many in the base which will be critical to winning the presidential nomination. - Aired on 11/25/2022.



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Why some Republicans are finally speaking out against Trump's future in the party - Washington Week (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Nov 2022 OP
Many repugs liked nixon too, notwithstanding watergate, yet elleng Nov 2022 #1
That's exactly what I thought initially Rhiannon12866 Nov 2022 #3
While superficially similar circumstances, so much has changed, elleng Nov 2022 #4
From what I've seen, I'm not holding my breath Rhiannon12866 Nov 2022 #5
Ditto elleng Nov 2022 #6
They smell loser. RandySF Nov 2022 #2
Yep, has nothing to do with policies etc. They don't think he can win. nt Phoenix61 Nov 2022 #8
Yep, he's outlived his shelf life. They will market a new and improved fascist leader instead. Midnight Writer Nov 2022 #10
An idea... 2naSalit Nov 2022 #7
Because they are TIRED of LOSING. MagaSmash Nov 2022 #9

elleng

(130,908 posts)
1. Many repugs liked nixon too, notwithstanding watergate, yet
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 03:10 AM
Nov 2022

### visited the White House telling him he'd lost their support and should resign.


In 1974, Goldwater and Rhodes told Nixon he was doomed.

*On Aug. 7, 1974, U.S. Sen. Barry Goldwater, R-Ariz., U.S. House Minority Leader John Rhodes, R-Ariz., and U.S. Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott, R-Pa., made it clear to the embattled Nixon that he faced all-but-certain impeachment, conviction and removal from office in connection with the Watergate scandal.

Nixon announced his resignation the next evening, effective at noon on Aug 9, 1974.

Over the years, Goldwater, Rhodes and Scott have been lionized for their often exaggerated role in precipitating Nixon's exit.

In his 2006 book "Conservatives Without Conscience," former Watergate figure John W. Dean wrote that the Capitol Hill trio "traveled to the White House to tell Nixon it was time to resign." A Los Angeles Times headline over Rhodes' 2003 obituary recalled that the longtime representative from Mesa "helped persuade Nixon to resign." A 2007 Politico column recalled the episode as "When the GOP Torpedoed Nixon."'

https://www.azcentral.com/story/azdc/2014/08/03/goldwater-rhodes-nixon-resignation/13497493/

Rhiannon12866

(205,360 posts)
3. That's exactly what I thought initially
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 03:22 AM
Nov 2022

As with Nixon, it would take the Republicans to take TFG down. Is it starting to happen?? They're still way too many insane MAGAts out there - both in Congress and on the streets, and this is clearly "worse than Watergate!" It's impossible to keep track of this one's crimes - federal and state(s) - without a scorecard.

elleng

(130,908 posts)
4. While superficially similar circumstances, so much has changed,
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 03:29 AM
Nov 2022

'social media-wise,' that I'm not sure they're comparable (tho I brought it up.)

MAY be starting to happen.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
7. An idea...
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 08:41 AM
Nov 2022

That has been developing in my mind is that there is a possibility, given the direct threats to democracy of late, that the Rs who aren't magats might vote with Democrats against the magats in order to be rid of them sooner.

It's possible is all I'm saying. There is a chance that former office holders and advisors have been working behind the scenes to organize those in office in mounting an offense against the magats by caucusing and voting with Democrats in a bipartisan effort to recover our country from the crazies.

Just maybe.

In a sane world.

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