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Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 03:50 AM Jan 2023

Trump Stormy Daniels payment case resumes beyond reach of Bill Barr's obstacles - Rachel Maddow



Rachel Maddow reviews the "weird saga" of the investigation of Donald Trump's hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and the efforts by Bill Barr's DOJ to make the whole case disappear. With Barr out of the way and Trump no longer in office, New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg is presenting evidence to a grand jury. - Aired on 01/30/2023.


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Trump Stormy Daniels payment case resumes beyond reach of Bill Barr's obstacles - Rachel Maddow (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 OP
After watching Rachel tonight KS Toronado Jan 2023 #1
He deserves it - and I'm also rooting for Pompeo Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #2
Pompeo considers himself presidential material. calimary Jan 2023 #3
Of course I found TFG's nominations creepy, but I had no idea how terrible Pompeo was until I read Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #4
Rachel is a national treasure. ariadne0614 Jan 2023 #5
I think the statute of limitations has run out on the original crime Jarqui Jan 2023 #6
Yeah, the statute of limitations is 5 years on federal elections law violations. femmedem Jan 2023 #7
DoJ policy is not law Jarqui Jan 2023 #8
This bullshit about a president being immune is not in the U.S. Constitution. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #9
TFG took an oath to the Constitution though he has yet to even read it... Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #10

KS Toronado

(17,275 posts)
1. After watching Rachel tonight
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 04:57 AM
Jan 2023

I believe Bill Barr will be joining his old buddy in JAIL. Hope they also nail him for Epstein's suicide.

Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
2. He deserves it - and I'm also rooting for Pompeo
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 05:13 AM
Jan 2023

Mary Trump talks about him in her book and he definitely believed he could do anything he wanted, people quit, no one applied to State and our allies couldn't stand him. She said he decimated the State Department "for a generation." And now he's perfectly okay with the brutal and gruesome murder of Jamal Khashoggi.

calimary

(81,350 posts)
3. Pompeo considers himself presidential material.
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 06:24 AM
Jan 2023

I think he should wear clothing made of black-and-white striped material.

Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
4. Of course I found TFG's nominations creepy, but I had no idea how terrible Pompeo was until I read
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 06:31 AM
Jan 2023

Mary Trump's book, she goes into detail. And that's just as Secretary of State, now we know that he's rotten all the way through.

Jarqui

(10,128 posts)
6. I think the statute of limitations has run out on the original crime
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 08:18 AM
Jan 2023

I wonder if the crime they're looking at now is obstruction of justice by Bill Barr & Donald Trump?
Barr intervened in 2019 - the statute of limitations has not run out on that.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
7. Yeah, the statute of limitations is 5 years on federal elections law violations.
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 09:09 AM
Jan 2023

However, there's a slim chance that a court may rule that the clock stopped while Trump was in office.

"Even if the statute of limitations on key criminal charges is nearly up, there’s an argument that the clock shouldn’t have actually started until Jan. 20 of this year. As the world now knows, the Justice Department clings to an internal policy—that is not actual law—that a sitting president can’t be indicted. Ciara Torres-Spelliscy, a law professor at Stetson University, pointed out how “that clearly doesn’t apply to ex-presidents.”

“No one has pardoned Trump. Thus should he be prosecuted, we may finally get a court to opine on whether the presidential immunity from prosecution during his time in office tolls the otherwise applicable statute of limitations,” she told The Daily Beast."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/time-is-running-out-to-indict-donald-trump-for-his-sex-hush-money-payment-to-stormy-daniels


I hope you are right and that the current investigation is actually about obstruction, a more serious offense.

Jarqui

(10,128 posts)
8. DoJ policy is not law
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 09:44 AM
Jan 2023

I do not see that as likely to be successful in a court unless they filed something back when. But even then, it doesn't explain whey they did nothing in the two years since Trump was in office.

This reeks of obstruction of justice. Barr has his fingerprints all over it. And that happened in 2019 so the statute of limitations has not expired.

Barr should be disbarred and held to account for all his shenanigans.
Why hasn't the DC Bar looked into his behavior?
Not just this: remember what he did with Mueller report?
And now we have his sleazy behavior with Durham.

If America truly wants to continue as the country that was envisioned, America has to uphold its laws and constitution. Crooks like Barr and Trump need to be help to account. America already made the mistake of letting Nixon get away with it. That needs to stop. If it doesn't, why should anyone continue to obey the laws?

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