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Rhiannon12866

(250,709 posts)
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 06:36 PM Jun 2023

Trump NOW claims he LIED about having classified document. Here's why the "bravado" dog won't hunt




Now that Donald Trump has been caught red-handed on an audio recoding disclosing and discussing a classified document about possible military plans to attack a foreign country, Trump is tell his most childish and transparent lies: he says he did not have a classified document but rather was engaged in "bravado." In other words, he claims he was lying.

This video discusses how Trump's incriminating statements can be put into three categories, all extremely useful to prosecutors:

1. directly incriminating statements

2. self-contradictory statements

3. statements demonstrating his consciousness of guilt - Glenn Kirschner - 06/28/2023.



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Trump NOW claims he LIED about having classified document. Here's why the "bravado" dog won't hunt (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 OP
Since he had already TAKEN the documents; and HAD them; why would he need to lie about having them? MagaSmash Jun 2023 #1
He's now claiming that the papers he boasted about to the crowd were building plans for a golf course Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #2
If that were the case the papers would not be letter or legal size. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #4
Oh, he claims he has myriad papers in those boxes, along with "golf shirts and shoes" Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #6
I didn't know shirts and shoes rustle. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #7
Well, he's been way "too busy" to go through those boxes - which contain all kinds of HIS papers Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #8
the funny thing is Skittles Jun 2023 #10
Any "work" he's expected to do - including when he was in office - he farmed out to others Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #11
If I'm a prosecutor, and have not recovered a document matching what he's referring to Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #3
Not to mention, we already know he lies! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #5
lying as a defense Skittles Jun 2023 #9
It's what he does - and why he will never be allowed to testify... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #12
Kid Rock said he was shown maps, and even he was like WTF, should I be seeing these? Freethinker65 Jun 2023 #13
Not to mention, exactly what classified material did he show the Russians in the Oval Office Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #14
Gee musclecar6 Jun 2023 #15
I know, unbelievable. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #16
Yes musclecar6 Jun 2023 #17
And I have found myself being extremely grateful that during this perilous time Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #18

MagaSmash

(11,872 posts)
1. Since he had already TAKEN the documents; and HAD them; why would he need to lie about having them?
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 06:43 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Wed Jun 28, 2023, 09:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Rhiannon12866

(250,709 posts)
2. He's now claiming that the papers he boasted about to the crowd were building plans for a golf course
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 06:44 PM
Jun 2023

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
4. If that were the case the papers would not be letter or legal size.
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 06:55 PM
Jun 2023

Those government docs would not rustle the same as building or renovation plans. Nor the same as clippings from magazines or newspapers.

Rhiannon12866

(250,709 posts)
8. Well, he's been way "too busy" to go through those boxes - which contain all kinds of HIS papers
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 07:06 PM
Jun 2023

Skittles

(169,761 posts)
10. the funny thing is
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 07:10 PM
Jun 2023

he acts like we think he intended to do the "work" of going through the boxes

that fucker doesn't do ANY real work

Rhiannon12866

(250,709 posts)
11. Any "work" he's expected to do - including when he was in office - he farmed out to others
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 07:12 PM
Jun 2023

His point in attaining office was to hold more grifting "rallies..."

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. If I'm a prosecutor, and have not recovered a document matching what he's referring to
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 06:52 PM
Jun 2023

I'm getting a warrant to tear up every bit of that fuckers property, Ivana's grave included.

Because his trying to talk this bullshit would tell me ... he's still got it.

Rhiannon12866

(250,709 posts)
5. Not to mention, we already know he lies!
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 06:58 PM
Jun 2023

Every bit of his "properties" need to be searched, not just for the classified documents he boasted about, but for every document he STILL hasn't returned!

Freethinker65

(11,202 posts)
13. Kid Rock said he was shown maps, and even he was like WTF, should I be seeing these?
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 07:31 PM
Jun 2023

And they were not blueprints of Trump property renovations.

Rhiannon12866

(250,709 posts)
14. Not to mention, exactly what classified material did he show the Russians in the Oval Office
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 07:34 PM
Jun 2023

When no American journalists were allowed at that meeting??

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
15. Gee
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 08:55 PM
Jun 2023

Arguing, arguably, the biggest liar, we’ve ever seen on the national stage is now lying about what he did saying he was lying. He never stops conning stupid and/or gullible people. Such a star of the Republican party to be proud of by them. It’s not like he was President of the United States at one time or anything.

Rhiannon12866

(250,709 posts)
16. I know, unbelievable.
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 09:00 PM
Jun 2023

It makes my blood run cold to imagine what he did - or could do - to this country as president. And I remember when Jimmy Carter first took office he promised to never lie to the American people. And the reaction of the press was to dissect every statement he made, looking for any hint of untruth...

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
17. Yes
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 09:14 PM
Jun 2023


Barack and now Joe is following in Jimmy Carter‘s footsteps. All of them we can be proud of and look to the day when Kamala gets elected after Joe’s time in service is finished. What a great follow on that will be. Quality people doing good spirited honest decent work for the people they serve.

Rhiannon12866

(250,709 posts)
18. And I have found myself being extremely grateful that during this perilous time
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 09:20 PM
Jun 2023

We have the most experienced president in our history, 36 years in the Senate and 8 years in the Executive Branch. He not only know the ropes, he knows the players and he was chosen in 2008 for his foreign policy experience.

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