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TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:49 AM Nov 2018

Help! What are the best colors for a Rainbow Peace Flag?

The Rainbow Peace Flag originated in Italy in 1961. The most common colors are these:

https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/it%7Dpace.html

The Rainbow Peace Flag has seven stripes (the much newer Gay Rainbow Flag has six in reversed order and no text). There are many other color combinations used in variant Peace Flags:


I have looked for the real rainbow and prism colors, but are just getting more confused:


Ideally I am reaching for a mix between the prism colors and the traditional colors. And are hoping some sharp DU eyes here could give a nice artistic suggestion!

What should/could the best colors for a Rainbow Peace Flag be?

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Help! What are the best colors for a Rainbow Peace Flag? (Original Post) TomVilmer Nov 2018 OP
I like the 3rd column in the middle pic. krispos42 Nov 2018 #1
I like the muted Doctor Who rainbow lapucelle Nov 2018 #2
That is a nice one! TomVilmer Nov 2018 #3
I can gather from your OP that you know a lot more about color than I ever will, lapucelle Nov 2018 #4
Looks like a Tom Baker scarf... TomVilmer Nov 2018 #7
That's exactly what the pattern was for. lapucelle Nov 2018 #9
I prefer the more jeweltone colors in Figure#1 below in a circular Enso shape of Figure#2 below... Donkees Nov 2018 #5
I enjoy your circular Zen peace symbol... TomVilmer Nov 2018 #6
With a more jewel-tone color palette, you would be able to incorporate 'olive green' ... Donkees Nov 2018 #8
Yes, I can see a nuance of Olive Green as the center color TomVilmer Nov 2018 #10
Maybe a more yellowish olive would look more like a blending of the turquoise#3 and gold#5 below: Donkees Nov 2018 #11
Wow! TomVilmer Nov 2018 #12
''but can we make a mix in between. More light in each end etc?'' Donkees Nov 2018 #13
I am a quite good editor... TomVilmer Nov 2018 #14
So far, I'm just collecting color sample choices to play with, not sure if these are closer to what Donkees Nov 2018 #15
How's this one? Donkees Nov 2018 #16
Sorry for delay... I have a job etc. TomVilmer Nov 2018 #17
I am just color-matching by eye, using the www.colorhexa.com site. I tried to compromise ... Donkees Nov 2018 #18
I am happily waiting :) TomVilmer Nov 2018 #19
This is the latest blending, but the colors end up a little deeper Donkees Nov 2018 #20
Now I can see both the prism and the history! TomVilmer Nov 2018 #22
Your bold white lettering looks *very* good against the deeper colors :) Donkees Nov 2018 #23
And now for Pantone... TomVilmer Nov 2018 #26
I tried a different Pantone color finder site - not sure if these help? Donkees Nov 2018 #27
Using your chart site is harder, but these might be close ... Donkees Nov 2018 #28
And then I tried to simplify TomVilmer Nov 2018 #29
The purple needs to have more red - maybe 2355C on your chart and the closest green ... Donkees Nov 2018 #30
I try now to keep to the low numbers - Pantone XXX C TomVilmer Nov 2018 #31
Maybe Purple 255 C ... Donkees Nov 2018 #32
C is for Pentone coated... TomVilmer Nov 2018 #33
I think the dark green helps the word PEACE look more prominent, so maybe it's a compromise ... Donkees Nov 2018 #34
Ilike that new purple... TomVilmer Nov 2018 #35
The only greens I find in pantone have the big number codes, like below ... Donkees Nov 2018 #36
I just made a better easier pantone chart :) TomVilmer Nov 2018 #37
Excellent! :) How about these two green choices Donkees Nov 2018 #38
Maybe try this lighter one too Donkees Nov 2018 #39
More tests... TomVilmer Nov 2018 #40
Yes, I think that one is the WINNER :) Congratulations! Donkees Nov 2018 #41
Then I will finally get some sleep! TomVilmer Nov 2018 #42
Sleep well, Peaceful Dreams :) Donkees Nov 2018 #43
I know you want colors (rather than tones), but your query got me thinking... lapucelle Nov 2018 #21
Interesting, but that's for another project... TomVilmer Nov 2018 #24
There are additional color fans. lapucelle Nov 2018 #25

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
4. I can gather from your OP that you know a lot more about color than I ever will,
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:35 AM
Nov 2018

so thanks for humoring a Doctor Who fan. (The colors are from a scarf knitting pattern.)

Happy Thanksgiving!

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
7. Looks like a Tom Baker scarf...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:35 AM
Nov 2018

... I followed him as The Doctor when I lived in the UK. Thanks for the extra effort with the Pantone color markers.

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
5. I prefer the more jeweltone colors in Figure#1 below in a circular Enso shape of Figure#2 below...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:24 AM
Nov 2018

Peace symbolism would be circular, such as the Enso representing the circle of life, connectedness, harmony (full description below). In this critical time of earth history, a rainbow enso would would symbolize the heart of the message, rather than stripes.


FIGURE #1



FIGURE #2



Enso

At first glance the ancient ensō symbol appears to be nothing more than a miss-shaped circle but its symbolism refers to the beginning and end of all things, the circle of life and the connectedness of existence.

It also represents the oneness of life and all things contained within it, the spirit of harmonious cooperation, personal development and refinement of character, the visible and the invisible, absolute fullness in emptiness, simplicity, completeness, endlessness, perfect harmony, the circle of infinity and the cyclical nature of existence.

https://www.modernzen.org/enso/


TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
6. I enjoy your circular Zen peace symbol...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:30 AM
Nov 2018

... but basically I was asked to recreate the Italian peace flag. I can adjust the colors, but not redo the design totally!

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
8. With a more jewel-tone color palette, you would be able to incorporate 'olive green' ...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 12:15 PM
Nov 2018

which symbolizes peace, and the more intense colors would symbolize the intensity of energy and dedication required to achieve peace. The jewel-tones would also symbolize and honor the deeply-rooted earth-centered ancient traditions of living in harmony with all of nature.

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
11. Maybe a more yellowish olive would look more like a blending of the turquoise#3 and gold#5 below:
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:44 PM
Nov 2018

The Center Olive Peace Color would be the blending point of the cool and warm colors

#1
#2
#3
#4
#5
#6
#7





TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
12. Wow!
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:20 PM
Nov 2018

Thank you for playing with this. This image has your earth colors, two slightly different prisms and the basic Italian colors:



I like your earth vision, but can we make a mix in between. More light in each end etc?

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
13. ''but can we make a mix in between. More light in each end etc?''
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:59 PM
Nov 2018

Yes, this is just a preliminary idea. It depends if anyone is interested in ''olive green'' as the center peace symbol, then the other color choices have to coordinate and give the impression of blending together visually. It seems the 'earth colors' are closer to 'prism 1' because there are teals and turquoise.

If the 'olive green' is *not* important to them, and you want something closer to 'Prism 2' I'll look at the chart again

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
14. I am a quite good editor...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 07:28 PM
Nov 2018

... but my sense of arts and color stuff is no good. And in a few days from now I should order some hundreds of these flags from a factory. But it is hard to make a decision, since I would like a mix between the real rainbow, and those existing flags.

And it looks like you know much more about colors than me, so any help is appreciated . I look forward to post a picture of the real flag, when it comes!

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
15. So far, I'm just collecting color sample choices to play with, not sure if these are closer to what
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 07:37 PM
Nov 2018

you want? I'm trying to match Prism2









TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
17. Sorry for delay... I have a job etc.
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 02:43 PM
Nov 2018

Now you are really getting close . I am wondering if this is harmonic and gradually switching between the seven colors. Your version seems more harmonic than the original does.

Around on the net there are palette tools. Since I am no artist, I have looked there, fx:
https://labs.tineye.com/color/8fe3eb56234afea91726e6331d6a6e887cf6818b?ignore_background=True&width=52&color_format=hex&ignore_interior_background=True&height=250

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
18. I am just color-matching by eye, using the www.colorhexa.com site. I tried to compromise ...
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 03:11 PM
Nov 2018

by not *too* much blending the edges, like a real prism would be, because I really wasn't sure that was your aim for the flag. Using these color choices, I'll try a more blended look next.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
22. Now I can see both the prism and the history!
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 08:38 PM
Nov 2018

- unless you have some more pixie dust to add, I will now test it with my friends.

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
23. Your bold white lettering looks *very* good against the deeper colors :)
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 08:48 PM
Nov 2018

It looks better than I imagined, but there's time this week-end to fine-tune it if you decide

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
26. And now for Pantone...
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 10:13 PM
Nov 2018

The skin tone post reminded me, that next stop is to jump from web to print. I then tried to put your colors in a wizard for Pantone colors - a new challenge!
https://www.ginifab.com/feeds/pms/pms_color_in_image.php

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
28. Using your chart site is harder, but these might be close ...
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 11:52 PM
Nov 2018

259C

2090C

2248C

7740C or 7741C

114C

171C? or 179C?

485C

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
29. And then I tried to simplify
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 06:44 AM
Nov 2018

Following your valuable input, I tried to find the "simplest" colors, and they seems to be able to fit mostly in the Pantone C palette with short numbers - with one exemption in the middle. How do you see these suggestions in column two her, where at least number 1 and the missing number 4 still needs some thinking. (6 and 7 are switched wrong):



Number 4 could be this
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/555-C

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
30. The purple needs to have more red - maybe 2355C on your chart and the closest green ...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 07:20 AM
Nov 2018

I found on another chart is this:

https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7730-C


I'm going to look at the purple again in the new chart I found.

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
32. Maybe Purple 255 C ...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:11 AM
Nov 2018
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/255-C


It's difficult to find a close match to the green using limited number codes, but you came closest, so try that darker one you chose and see how it looks together

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
33. C is for Pentone coated...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:30 AM
Nov 2018

... which might look very different when printing on polyester. So much to learn, but let's stick with the C for now, and let the people at the print shop advice me later. As far my tire eyes can see, we are now down to mostly adjusting the green color number 4, which still is a bit off. Might need to be lighter:





Donkees

(31,405 posts)
34. I think the dark green helps the word PEACE look more prominent, so maybe it's a compromise ...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:02 AM
Nov 2018

Maybe this slightly brighter purple? https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/249-C




Donkees

(31,405 posts)
36. The only greens I find in pantone have the big number codes, like below ...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 05:23 PM
Nov 2018

I wasn't sure if you were keeping the dark #555. I'll try to find a better easier pantone chart that I can use to find a low number green.


https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/P-143-13-C

https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7730-C

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
42. Then I will finally get some sleep!
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:40 PM
Nov 2018

I started this project a month ago, and I think your good help got me past the finish line. I hope the others back here will enjoy it also, so we can make it in to reality. Thanks .

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
21. I know you want colors (rather than tones), but your query got me thinking...
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 08:00 PM
Nov 2018

...I'd like to see a rainbow flag of skin tones.



TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
24. Interesting, but that's for another project...
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 09:30 PM
Nov 2018

... and I do not see my own skin color in that Pantone set .

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