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Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:25 AM Feb 2019

Stories from the Road: Getting Old

My wife has an aunt and uncle who celebrate their birthdays together every year. They were born a year apart on almost the same calendar day. This year her family all got together with them at a nice local restaurant and we celebrated.

This couple has a youthful appearance considering their age. She turned 78 this year and he turned 79, but if I didn't know them and know their ages, I'd put them closer to 65. The male half of the couple, Uncle Bob, still plays 18 holes of golf three days a week when the weather is nice. They are in really good shape. The illusion is so real that I almost cracked an old folks joke before realizing that I was sitting across from a couple of people closing in on 80. Talk about sticking your foot in your mouth.

I was speaking to Bob and he was asking me about my work. I'm a trucker and I have to deal with all kinds of unpleasant weather in my duties this time of year. My trucking route runs from Indiana to Pennsylvania. We had just had a particularly unpleasant week with snow and very cold temperatures. Bob was telling me about how glad he was that he didn't have to get out in that kind of weather anymore. He was really relishing the fact that he was retired, and seemed to be pitying me in my current predicament. I'm still at least 20 years away from retirement.

Bob always has a little smile on his face. He has the demeanor of a man who feels very good about himself and his life. He and his wife were talking about their age for a little bit. When he talked about being 79, he sorted of acted like he couldn't believe it. Then he looked at his wife as the smile dropped from his face and said, "Just think. Next year the big eight oh," then sort of looked as if he had slipped from the present moment into contemplation and reflection. In that moment he looked closer to that big eight oh to me.

It seems like most people in our society spend their lives acting like they are going to be here forever. The idea that this life has an end doesn't seem to occur to many people until they start feeling death approach. I've had that mentality toward life for most of my life. It hasn't been until the past few years that I really started to contemplate mortality. And I think at 46 most people would consider that morbid and unnecessary. But I realize now that I've got a lot of work to do before the end comes. I used to think that life was absurd and meaningless. Now I find it full of purpose and meaning.

Open your eyes to the present moment. See where you are right now in your life and you will know what you have to do. Don't let this opportunity slip away.

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Stories from the Road: Getting Old (Original Post) Tobin S. Feb 2019 OP
I'm near 71 and as I clean house and attempt to downsize, I sinkingfeeling Feb 2019 #1
We are there now, too. femmocrat Feb 2019 #6
Tobin, can you say more about how and why your attitude toward life has changed enough Feb 2019 #2
Sure, I can elaborate a little. Tobin S. Feb 2019 #5
As the expiration date is closer than the production date Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #3
Very wise indeed. walkingman Feb 2019 #4
Thank you and thanks for your post. Tobin S. Feb 2019 #7
"I was a highwayman, on the coach roads I did ride, panader0 Feb 2019 #8
I was a sailor discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2019 #9
One of my favorite songs. panader0 Feb 2019 #10
My hubby is late 50s, Corgigal Feb 2019 #11

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
1. I'm near 71 and as I clean house and attempt to downsize, I
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:38 AM
Feb 2019

get filled with emotions. I look at my stash of quilting fabrics and books and know I'll never get them made. I wonder who will ever look through the many scrapbooks of world travels I spent hundreds of hours making. I see the things left to me by my mother, grandmothers, and great grandmothers and wonder what will become of them. I wonder how many countries I can experience before I can't physically go by myself.

At other times, I believe I'm still 35.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
6. We are there now, too.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019

I helped to clean out three houses of departed loved ones. I don’t want my kids to have to go through that. Yet it’s so hard to part with things, isn’t it?

enough

(13,259 posts)
2. Tobin, can you say more about how and why your attitude toward life has changed
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:46 AM
Feb 2019

so much? What brought about this change?

Thanks for an interesting post.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
5. Sure, I can elaborate a little.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:48 AM
Feb 2019

I developed bipolar disorder when I was 20 years old. I lived with the illness untreated until I was 30 and it became unbearable. For nearly 15 years I lived in relative peace as far as my mental state goes. I had gotten married, bought a house, and was able to hold down a good job. Things had gone so well, in fact, that I started to believe that maybe I didn't need the medication anymore. This feeling grew in me until I weened myself off of it about a year and half ago.

I'm going to make a long story short and perhaps fill in the blanks with some links to posts from the mental health forum that I've written over the last year or so. After three months of being fully off the meds I had a serious relapse and was hospitalized. During that time I had a genuine mystical experience that changed the course of my life. I was only there for 30 hours, but I had gotten a glimpse of eternity in a hellish state.

I don't think people are doomed for eternity for doing bad things. In fact, nothing even the worst person has done here on Earth will condemn somone to hell for eternity. While being in hell can seem to take forever, it's a temporary learning experience that occurs in the psyche of the experiencer. But I realized that I would have to repeat this experience again and again unless I made some serious changes in my life. We're not talking about religion so much as psychology and spirituality. Here are a few links that you might like to read.

Lisa on the psychiatric ward. https://www.democraticunderground.com/11517984

There is much more to us than is apparent on the surface of our ordinary consciousness. https://www.democraticunderground.com/11518407

Transpersonal psychology, addiction, and other ideas. https://www.democraticunderground.com/11518727

The death throes of the ego. https://www.democraticunderground.com/12491797


There is really much more to this that I have written about elsewhere, but that will give you a flavor of what has been happening to me over the past year and a half or so.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. As the expiration date is closer than the production date
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:00 AM
Feb 2019

we tend to be more reflective of that reality. We all need to remind ourselves that this is a fairly short journey amongst others and on this planet. Treat each other with respect, help others as we can in whatever ways we can, tell those that we love we love them and enjoy ourselves as much as we can do.

I retired a couple of years ago after being forced out early from my job as a Grocery Receiver at a Supermarket (I have a great deal of respect for those out in the ugly weather each day as the OP is ). Really enjoy retirement and when asked last Saturday by a Supervisor that I had run into while shopping if I wanted to come back, I could have any store in his division as Receiver, I politely declined. Everyone has a different economic reality and we all have to look at what we can and cannot do, but I encourage all to Retire as soon as they can and enjoy their life.

walkingman

(7,613 posts)
4. Very wise indeed.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:00 AM
Feb 2019

I enjoyed your post and it hit home with me. I'm 68. I retired after 33 years at a megacorp at age 52. The first 5 years or so was a celebration everyday as the memories of work were still on my mind. As the time passed I got into the daily habit of walking about 7-8 miles every morning to start my day. It was the second best thing I ever did in my life (my marriage was #1). I got into great shape, met all of my neighbors, and start the day off right. Time passed so quickly.

Fast forward..... BOOM - At age 66 I was diagnosed with Bladder cancer. I am taking immunotherapy and so far that is under control. BOOM - age 67 was diagnosed with Non-hodgkins lymphoma and just finished Chemo and will be getting Radiation therapy for the next few weeks. Lost all of my hair, so weak couldn't walk anymore,gained 10lbs., tired all the time, etc. Since finishing the Chemo I tried walking again the last few days. Even though I had walked for 15 years effortlessly I could barely take a short 5 mile walk without being totally exhausted. It was really an effort.

I didn't smoke, drink, no family history of cancer, nothing.....why me? Your post is so true. Everyday should not be taken for granted. There are no guarantees. Enjoy every day as much as possible and relish the time you have with family and friends. I have no idea what lies ahead but it is pretty obvious that my time has become precious. The cycle of life is real and time flies when you are having fun and when your not also.

Carpe diem!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
8. "I was a highwayman, on the coach roads I did ride,
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:35 PM
Feb 2019

sword and pistol by my side.
Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade.
Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade.
The bastards hung me in the spring of '25.
But I am still alive."

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
9. I was a sailor
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:10 PM
Feb 2019

I was born upon the tide
And with the sea I did abide
I sailed a schooner round the Horn to Mexico
I went aloft and furled the mainsail in a blow
And when the yards broke off they said that I got killed
But I am living still.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
10. One of my favorite songs.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:30 PM
Feb 2019

There are four guys in my group of players.
Like the song, we all take a verse.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
11. My hubby is late 50s,
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:02 PM
Feb 2019

and I'm early 60s. We're doing our bucket list places, and it might not be death I'm thinking about daily, but illness can strike. It's all about probabilities and I'm getting to Yosemite.

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