Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 10:35 AM Oct 2020

Just got the word from the hospital: lost a patient to complications of alcoholism.

I hadn't seen him in over a year, but before that, he was a regular. He'd been through our de-tox and alcohol abuse treatment programs several times, and it never took.

He was supposed to start another round of treatment today.

I remember him as a pleasant guy who just couldn't climb out of the bottle.

I hope he's at peace now...

13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Just got the word from the hospital: lost a patient to complications of alcoholism. (Original Post) Aristus Oct 2020 OP
So very sorry. I have a sister who refuses treatment MaryMagdaline Oct 2020 #1
Beating addiction is the longest lonely cilla4progress Oct 2020 #2
No. Aristus Oct 2020 #3
Sorry - cilla4progress Oct 2020 #4
No. I work for a not-for-profit community health organization. Aristus Oct 2020 #5
I'm sorry to hear that, Aristus ailsagirl Oct 2020 #6
I have an addictive personality... uriel1972 Oct 2020 #7
Complications of alcoholism? I would like to know more about these. Laelth Oct 2020 #8
No. Aristus Oct 2020 #10
OK. Just curious. Laelth Oct 2020 #11
I'm a transplant RN ismnotwasm Oct 2020 #9
I'm sorry to read this. Niagara Oct 2020 #12
I'm so sorry. I've been in AA since 2008 and to more funerals than I can count Rhiannon12866 Oct 2020 #13

cilla4progress

(24,760 posts)
2. Beating addiction is the longest lonely
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 10:39 AM
Oct 2020

journey!

Not only the addiction, but whatever got you there.

So sad. May he go in peace.

VA hospital, right?

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
5. No. I work for a not-for-profit community health organization.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 10:47 AM
Oct 2020

The clinic where I work is primarily for our homeless patients. (The mainstream clinic is just a few blocks away, but I see some mainstream patients, too.)

Every once in a while, we'll get some patients that the VA contracts out to us, usually due to overcrowding at the local VA facility. (It was really bad back when everyone was coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan all at once.)

ailsagirl

(22,898 posts)
6. I'm sorry to hear that, Aristus
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 10:49 AM
Oct 2020

I've heard my share of horror stories about alcoholism and even know people who are caught in its web. It saddens me greatly but it's really up to them to make the decision to stop, and so far I'm not seeing any effort. Tragic.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
7. I have an addictive personality...
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 11:41 AM
Oct 2020

and type II diabetes. giving up chocolates and my other comfort foods has been hell. I'm gonna die from my complications, I'm sure in about ten to twenty years.
I guess I see it from the other side.

You know it's killing you but you don't care. The pain is so strong and facing it is so hard, you need an escape.

I'm so sorry for your loss, but I have little that I can do except listen and offer compassion. I guess in a homeless clinic you get to see too much. I stand in awe.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. Complications of alcoholism? I would like to know more about these.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 11:43 AM
Oct 2020

I am assuming he was a COVID patient. I have heard that the combination of COVID and alcohol addiction leads to worse outcomes in COVID treatment, but why is this so?

I would be appreciative if you could shed any light on this subject.

-Laelth

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
10. No.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:22 PM
Oct 2020

If the cause of death was COVID, they would have listed it as COVID.

The complication in this case was hepatic encephalopathy.

I try to avoid falling into the trap right-wingers try to set for us that COVID is a hoax, and that we diagnose everything as COVID in order to boost the numbers and strengthen the 'hoax'.

COVID is COVID. Complications of alcoholism are complications of alcoholism.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. OK. Just curious.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:27 PM
Oct 2020

I have heard that COVID patients who were alcoholics had generally poorer prognoses. I was interested in knowing whether or not you could shed some light on that phenomenon.

I understand that, in this particular case, COVID is not implicated in any way.

-Laelth

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
9. I'm a transplant RN
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 11:49 AM
Oct 2020

What a surgeon told me a while back was that there is data showing a near epidemic of young people, people under 30, drinking themselves into liver failure. There is often polysubstance abuse so they are untransplantable.

I see these people all the time and it kills me. I hate losing people period, but losing them to addiction twists the knife.

Rhiannon12866

(205,832 posts)
13. I'm so sorry. I've been in AA since 2008 and to more funerals than I can count
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 05:58 AM
Oct 2020

Alcoholism is cunning, baffling and powerful - and wants you dead.

Latest Discussions»The DU Lounge»Just got the word from th...