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BMW2020RT

(139 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:50 PM Dec 2020

Shingles and a virus: A warning

Last edited Tue Dec 15, 2020, 01:47 PM - Edit history (2)

My third week of November began with what appeared to be a rash on the left side of my chest and under my arm. I thought, perhaps, it was an allergic reaction, but no. Too much of the year is in the rearview mirror for yardwork to be responsible. My wife did change our laundry detergent, but the rash was actively spreading. I made a appointment to see my primary care physician. He very quickly diagnosed my condition when I removed my shirt. "You have a shingles outbreak."

I am in the age bracket for that sort of thing, so that wasn't surprising. We, my doctor and I, discussed getting the shingles vaccine during my annual checkup in March, but he said the vaccine supply varies and was not available then. "I'll get it later." Well, as your can read, the shingles got me first. For those of you who haven't endured that illness, avoid it if at all possible. The hypersensitivity of your affected skin makes sleeping difficult and even soft clothing can be very discomforting.

I am classified as a essential employee in the transportation industry so, shingles can be dangerous to small children or people who have not previously been exposed to or vaccinated for chickenpox. I stayed home for two weeks mostly confined to our home with just a few forays to the grocery store during which I always wore a mask.

Following my two weeks of absence from work I was expecting to enjoy a week's vacation. The Advil I was taking for the pain was more effective than the narcotics my doctor prescribed and the blistering was healing as well as can be expected. However, I began to feel unwell again, beyond the shingles. I didn't think much of it at first because it felt like the beginning of innumerable bouts with my allergies I have endured since I was a little boy. The difference was the chills I experienced caused some fairly dramatic shaking. It was so violent I sort of laughed to myself about it while being simultaneously concerned about the abnormal degree of the shaking. There I was holding an electric toothbrush that I was involuntarily using like a manual brush. I had to hold my right wrist with my left hand to control the shake while I cleaned my teeth.

We have been repeatedly advised at my place of employment to self-evaluate our health before reporting for duty, so I decided to consult my physician. He agreed that it would be prudent to test for COVID-19 even though the likelihood of infection seemed low. And frankly, we should rightly assume infection and be proven wrong rather than the reverse. That is just the world we live in right now.

I got the swab up my nose last Tuesday afternoon after my morning consultation. That swab is no picnic which is one more reason to avoid the virus. The medical staff advised me the results may take just a couple of days or up to week depending upon the workload at the lab. Fine, I advised my employment supervisors and waited.

I have been anxious to return to whatever passes for my normal life, even the office. Confinement has definitely worn thin. With that in mind I signed up for access to my medical records hoping to know the result of my test before the doctor called. Last night I checked-in and a notification of the result was sent to my doctor, but the alert did not say yes or no. It was just an alert that the results were returned. "Good," I thought. "I will know in the morning." As expected, I received a call this morning, first thing. Even before the official office opening. I tested positive.

I have not lost my sense of taste like Will Parkinson, who also recently tested positive. Thus far, I just have a persistent, moderate cough, a feeling of stuffiness around my nose like nasal congestion though my breathing is normal, and a slight headache. It has not worsened nor has it improved. It feels like a persistent, low-grade flu. Hopefully, it will remain that way.

My point here is this: Although the risk of infection based on your living situation may seem small or even non-existent COVID-19 is a contagion that finds a way even in the presence of safeguards, so please wear your masks and continue to take appropriate precautions. Everyone's health depends on it.

Now, if you will excuse me, I have some leave of absence paperwork to complete for my employer and report to the local department of health. Best wishes to you and your's.

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Shingles and a virus: A warning (Original Post) BMW2020RT Dec 2020 OP
Thank you for posting this. NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #1
Oh, my! Shingles AND Covid? Frustratedlady Dec 2020 #2
Thanks for the PSA......... 7wo7rees Dec 2020 #3
mu hubby is a pharmacist and gives these all day and finally brought one home for me... samnsara Dec 2020 #5
Just a heads up genxlib Dec 2020 #6
That's still better. plimsoll Dec 2020 #8
Absolutely genxlib Dec 2020 #10
don't make the error of getting the shingles booster and a flu shot at the same time getagrip_already Dec 2020 #17
when my BIL passed of brain cancer, he also had shingles at the same time. samnsara Dec 2020 #4
That's awful. plimsoll Dec 2020 #9
I had my second Shingles shot yesterday. TomSlick Dec 2020 #7
I got my second one yesterday, too. kas125 Dec 2020 #20
Great minds and all. TomSlick Dec 2020 #22
Thanks for the warning and I hope you feel better soon. And welcome to DU. alwaysinasnit Dec 2020 #11
I have had shingles VA_Jill Dec 2020 #12
Gee BMW, what a crappy back to back hit of bad luck. Fla Dem Dec 2020 #13
I had my second Shinges Shot Chili Pepper Dec 2020 #14
Back in March I heard that getting a Shingles vaccine would be a good idea BigmanPigman Dec 2020 #15
I had fatigue for a day or 2 after one of my shingles shots. Tetrachloride Dec 2020 #16
The first shot made my arm hurt for at least a week BigmanPigman Dec 2020 #18
Sorry to hear that. Get well soon! Catherine Vincent Dec 2020 #19
Great PSA - I had it on my face near my mouth and cheek... It was a stressful time for me... MartyTheGreek Dec 2020 #21
2 bouts of shingles here, the first/mild; the other NOT Dx-ed by the medical peeps!1 UTUSN Dec 2020 #23
Oh, I am so very sorry! And thanks for the warning. Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #24

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
1. Thank you for posting this.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:58 PM
Dec 2020

I've had shingles and know how miserable it can be. Sending warm wishes for a speedy recovery from Covid and a return to a more normal routine in the very near future.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. Oh, my! Shingles AND Covid?
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:59 PM
Dec 2020

I've had shingles and I don't envy you your situation. Best of luck to you for an uneventful recovery.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
3. Thanks for the PSA.........
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 01:37 PM
Dec 2020

I've been putting this off for 2 long and just finished calling CVS to see if available. Will get today or tomorrow. My 84 yr old mom had it in July/August 2011. She unfortunately was one of the unlucky ones and has suffered with the permanent nerve damage and pain ever since.
Thank you again for sharing your story and motivating me to stop putting it off. Stress can exacerbate and god knows there is plenty of that.
Ms. 7wo7rees

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
6. Just a heads up
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 02:18 PM
Dec 2020

It is a two shot regimen spread out by at least 2 months.

And it is no picnic. It causes a mild reaction and will leave you sore and lethargic for a couple of days. My arm got a know in it the size of a golf ball and really heated up. I checked it with a thermometer gun and the injection site was 7 degrees warmer than the surrounding skin.

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
8. That's still better.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:03 PM
Dec 2020

My left arm was numb to my fingers. It hurt to breathe and forced me to stop my regular exercise for a couple weeks, and another month and a half to recover fully.

I think I'd trade your symptoms for the shingles, though I'm not ignoring your reaction either.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
10. Absolutely
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:10 PM
Dec 2020

No Regrets at all. Would do it 100x to keep the shingles at bay.

Same with the COVID vaccine which I expect to have similar symptoms. Will take it as soon as allowed and smile through the reactions.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
17. don't make the error of getting the shingles booster and a flu shot at the same time
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:42 PM
Dec 2020

misery. plain and simple.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
7. I had my second Shingles shot yesterday.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 02:53 PM
Dec 2020

I had a vague nausea that passed over night. The arm is still a little sore.

Nevertheless, I've seen Shingles. If I needed a third shot, I would get it as soon as possible.

kas125

(2,472 posts)
20. I got my second one yesterday, too.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:46 PM
Dec 2020

My arm is very sore as are my joints and muscles, but I'm so glad I did it. I do not want shingles.

VA_Jill

(9,983 posts)
12. I have had shingles
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:24 PM
Dec 2020

twice. The last time I got a couple of lesions in my eye and eventually had to have a repair involving some fetal tissue. Not something i would recommend.

I am now #12 on the list at my pharmacy for the vaccine. And it's going to cost me $178 a dose even with my part D. But i's supposed to keep me from getting it again. For that it had damn well better. At least I will almost meet my deductible for 2021 if I don't get it until after the first of January.....

Fla Dem

(23,692 posts)
13. Gee BMW, what a crappy back to back hit of bad luck.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:27 PM
Dec 2020

Shingles are terrible. Never had them, but have seen my brother suffer through them twice. As a result I got the vaccine.

I hope you only have a moderate case of covid, it does sound that way. But don't be complacent. Take care of yourself.

Hugs and good thoughts headed your way.



Chili Pepper

(102 posts)
14. I had my second Shinges Shot
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:33 PM
Dec 2020

last month. For the next 48 hours, my neck, shoulders, and upper back were extremely sore … almost felt a little like whiplash. In addition, I was very light headed and dizzy to the point that I almost fell down a couple of times. By the third day, I was feeling fine, but it was a little scary for those two days.

However, like others have said, that's a small price to pay considering the alternative is a bout with Shingles.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
15. Back in March I heard that getting a Shingles vaccine would be a good idea
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:34 PM
Dec 2020

since the virus was new. I got the 1st shot in March at CVS. I don't know why your doctor said they were out of them.. I got the follow-up shot in Sept with my flu shot. My friends told me how horrible Shingles was so I listened to their warnings. Back in Aug I had a low grade fever for two weeks and got a Covid test in a parking structure set up by the state. The swab so so small and I only had to put it 1 inch up my nose (not like what I saw on TV). I got the results in 48 hours, which is actually too long to do great tracking but is better than a week. It was neg and I have no idea what the fever and aches were from.

So you have Shingles AND Covid?!? That sucks a lot. Please keep us posted on the progress you make.

Tetrachloride

(7,849 posts)
16. I had fatigue for a day or 2 after one of my shingles shots.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:39 PM
Dec 2020

I just slept more, stayed at home as usual a few months ago.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
18. The first shot made my arm hurt for at least a week
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:43 PM
Dec 2020

but the follow up shot didn't for some reason. I had no other side effects though.

Catherine Vincent

(34,490 posts)
19. Sorry to hear that. Get well soon!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:45 PM
Dec 2020

Thanks for the reminder. I was cleared to get the shingles vaccine a couple of mths ago from my nephrologist. Before it wasn't advisable due to my kidney transplant 10 yrs ago.

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
21. Great PSA - I had it on my face near my mouth and cheek... It was a stressful time for me...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:56 PM
Dec 2020

I went to Doc in the box he looked at it and said shingles. I did some heavy yardwork a few days prior and thought it was poison Ivey. I still have a little scar near my mouth from 8 years ago!

If you already had Shingles, you should also get that vaccine. That may be called the booster. Do check!

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
23. 2 bouts of shingles here, the first/mild; the other NOT Dx-ed by the medical peeps!1
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 03:27 AM
Dec 2020

I had known of a couple of people who had it and who were totally clear of how painful it was and horrible rash. Somebody told me the virus pops into a nerve and then travels the length of the nerve, and the person said they got theirs *around* the whole torso, couldn't lie in the bed, had to stay in an armchair the duration of (six?) weeks.

So that's how I thought of it and I never thought about it in the first go round. First there was a circle of blisters on the point of my shoulder joint. Hmm, blisters and itching, so I scratched. Yes, blisters like in the original childhood chicken pox. But I didn't know what it was. So then it did its traveling thing and went from the shoulder straight down the arm and ended up in the thumb. But this was the *mild* case of 20 years ago.

Also, it has to be caught early, almost before it starts, so how does that work if you don't know it's coming?

********So almost 20 years passed. Then on a Thursday I woke up with a HORRIFIC pain in the lower right abdomen. Sharp piercing pain. I had no idea, thought naybe appendicitis, kidney stone, pancreas ---- I'm ignorant, don't know the locations of things.

So the pain was less the next day but still there, then the Saturday was completely gone, so I thought everything was cool. Well, Sunday a little pain was back and Monday it was worse. I was in the dark about what to do, knowing that my regular doctor would send me for lab and results would take 2-3 days. Tuesday I had to do something so I went to the E.R. just to *ask* whether it sounded like it was an E.R. type of thing. They told me to go in.

Here’s the strange part. Not the waiting all day and all kinds of drama (think Shirley McLaine in Terms/Endearment screaming at the staff). No, they called me inside to draw blood and do rays and sent me outside. Fine.

So after the heavy duty tests with all the fancy machinery, the E.R. doctor gave me what he thought (he didn’t seem sure) were the results: That I had a genital hernia.

O.K., I know nothing, tend to believe people who are supposed to know stuff. But I register what makes sense and what doesn’t make sense to me. I asked why the pain was in the abdomen if the hernia was down there. He looked like he didn’t know and said that hernias “move around.” So he referred me to a surgeon to be seen within two days, no delay, to see about hernia repair.

So I made the appointment toute suite, and the surgeon did the examining for the “hernia”. He said that a hernia certainly did exist but that it was nowhere near needing repair, that surgery is bad there and takes five months to recover and the pain would be bad all that time.

*PUZZLED* and frustrated, I pulled UP my shirttail and sputtered, “WHY is the pain up HERE in the abdomen????!”

This was the first and only time anybody had bothered to look at the skin where the pain was. And there were THREE DOTS in a row.

The surgeon yelled, “YOU HAVE SHINGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

He said that it was already well under way, too late for medication, would have to ride it out for whatever weeks.
He also said, “I don’t do shingles. I cut.”

My own discovery was that this pain was totally different from what I thought. I thought it was “just” a rash on the skin, NOT the severe INTERNAL pain. So that’s what those people who had it had told me about!

So, yes, in a few weeks it was over. My regular doctor told me to get the shingles vaccine and booster after a couple of months of recuperating.

My whole point is that all the fancy machinery didn't diagnose it and nobody looked at the skin except by serendipity.







Rhiannon12866

(205,541 posts)
24. Oh, I am so very sorry! And thanks for the warning.
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 03:37 AM
Dec 2020

I got the SHINGRIX vaccine (2 doses) earlier this year after hearing Shingles described by someone I knew who had it and the hell she experienced, said it was so painful that she cut off her hair because she couldn't stand it touching her face. And I know I had chicken pox when I was in elementary school.

As for the virus, I know we can't be too careful, need to wear masks when we go out, avoid close contact with others, avoid travel and any sort of gathering.

I am so sorry to hear that you're experiencing this, Shingles had to be bad enough. Thanks for sharing your experience and for the warning. I hope that you get over this successfully and soon and that you're feeling better...

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