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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:36 PM Dec 2020

Simple probability question for someone good at these things ...

I have a bag of 10 marbles.

3 of them are red marbles.

What is the probability I would reach in and pull out red marbles 3 out of 6 times?

Assume I choose 1 marble at a time, and put the marble chosen back in the bag each time.

TIA!

Edit: Looks like we have a consensus of 18.5%

Thanks everyone for your work!

In case you're wondering why I asked, I've finished in the Top 3 (of 10 teams) in my Fantasy Football league 3 of the 6 years my two brothers and I have held it. One of them was telling me 'that's like ... average, dude!'

And I said 'bullshit it is!'

I knew it was statistically not average, I just wanted to come back at him with hard numbers, proving my point

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Simple probability question for someone good at these things ... (Original Post) mr_lebowski Dec 2020 OP
Exactly three times, or at least three times, out of the six attempts? RockRaven Dec 2020 #1
Well, if it's easy, what is the odds for each ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #3
If I've remembered how to do binomial probabilities correctly, here's the outcomes... RockRaven Dec 2020 #12
Are you going to reveal the answer eventually? Ohiogal Dec 2020 #2
No but somebody else is ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #4
Mr. Ohiogal is a retired math teacher Ohiogal Dec 2020 #5
Two people have independently come up with 18.5% mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #14
Yeah I think his skills must be a bit rusty. 😄 Ohiogal Dec 2020 #16
Happens to the best of us ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #17
assuming you mean exactly 3 times out of 6, i'm getting 18.522%: unblock Dec 2020 #6
Looks like we have a consensus of 18.5% mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #10
You beat me to it. n/t Lionel Mandrake Dec 2020 #11
1/2 x 3/10 ? mia Dec 2020 #7
If you mean red exactly 3 out of 6 tries, Lionel Mandrake Dec 2020 #8
Looks like we have a consensus of 18.5% mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #9
You're welcome! n/t Lionel Mandrake Dec 2020 #15
I was going to say 42..... sdfernando Dec 2020 #13
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Well, if it's easy, what is the odds for each ...
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:48 PM
Dec 2020

1 time, 2 times, 3 times, etc. Out of 6 attempts.

But 3 times out of 6 exactly is what I'm most interested in.

RockRaven

(18,746 posts)
12. If I've remembered how to do binomial probabilities correctly, here's the outcomes...
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 02:07 PM
Dec 2020

0 red - 11.8%
1 red - 30.3%
2 red - 32.4%
3 red - 18.5%
4 red - 6%
5 red - 1%
6 red - 0.07%

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. No but somebody else is ...
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:48 PM
Dec 2020

I honestly don't know how to calculate it that's why I ask.

Ohiogal

(39,804 posts)
5. Mr. Ohiogal is a retired math teacher
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:54 PM
Dec 2020

He gave me the above answer but don’t ask me how he got it!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. Two people have independently come up with 18.5%
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 02:08 PM
Dec 2020

I guess it's a good thing the old man is retired

unblock

(55,940 posts)
6. assuming you mean exactly 3 times out of 6, i'm getting 18.522%:
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:54 PM
Dec 2020

(.3)^3 * (.7)^3 * 6!/(3!*(6-3)!)

.3 cubed is the probability that the first 3 pulls are red.
.7 cubed is the probability that the final 3 pulls are not red (in order to get to exactly 3 reds).
so (.3)^3 * (.7)^3 is the probability of getting exactly 3 pulls in a specific order.

but we don't care about the order, so

6! /(3!*(6-3)!) is the number of different orderings of the pulls, e.g., (1, 2, 3) pulls are red; (1, 2, 4) pulls are red, etc.
this equals 20 different orderings.

all this works out to about 18.522%.


hope i'm remembering my probability math right....

mia

(8,473 posts)
7. 1/2 x 3/10 ?
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:57 PM
Dec 2020

I5% of the time? I'm wondering who would like my marble collection when I die. I used to play marbles in the dirt 70 years ago with the neighborhood kids. Thanks for the memories.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,191 posts)
8. If you mean red exactly 3 out of 6 tries,
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:59 PM
Dec 2020

then the answer is C(6,3) p^3 q^3 = 0.18522,
where C(6,3) = 6! / (3!)^2 = 20 is a binomial coefficient,
p = 0.3 is the probability of picking a red marble, and
q = 1 - p = 0.7 is the probability of not picking a red marble on each try.

On the other hand, the probability of 3 or more red marbles can be computed similarly, but it's a bit more complicated.

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