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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 09:37 PM Feb 2021

Has anyone here had a tooth (molar) implant before?

I went to the endodontist today as I have been having serious tooth pain, to the point where I cannot really even eat solid food. I thought I would end up needing a root canal, but it turns out that I have a fractured tooth and some bone loss in one of my last right lower molars and the doctor suggested that an implant would probably be the best way to go.

Just wondering what your experience was, if insurance covered any of it and roughly what it cost out of pocket. Also, what was the aftermath like?

I know I will probably be anesthetised so it won't be that painful during the procedure, I am mostly worrried about the recovery and the out of pocket cost.

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Has anyone here had a tooth (molar) implant before? (Original Post) smirkymonkey Feb 2021 OP
Yeah, I got one a few years ago. El Supremo Feb 2021 #1
Ugh, that's what I was afraid of. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #6
Had a similar situation jmbar2 Feb 2021 #2
Good to know! I wonder if I can do without it? smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #8
I had my last root canal done at the dental college jmbar2 Feb 2021 #17
Someone else below mentioned going to a dental school, which didn't even occur to me, but smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #19
It's actually called the 3rd molar.....used to work in the dental business..... a kennedy Feb 2021 #37
I had one a few years back.... gainesvillenole Feb 2021 #3
Thank you! I didn't realize that it might be a bit of a longer, drawn out process. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #9
One for me Yonnie3 Feb 2021 #4
Thank you for your feedback! smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #10
For me it was a nearly a four month process Yonnie3 Feb 2021 #18
Were you in pain the whole time? smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #20
Pain was a brief thing. Yonnie3 Feb 2021 #27
Yes..I have 2. Expensive, yes...wouldn't trade them..best fix out there Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #5
Thanks! It seems to me like it is the best long term solution and I am not that old, so it makes smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #11
If you have a dental college nearby it's much Phoenix61 Feb 2021 #7
Actually, I am in Boston, so we have a lot of good dental schools in the area. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #12
My parents got a lot of work done at the Phoenix61 Feb 2021 #13
I have two implants... VarryOn Feb 2021 #14
Hmmm, that's good to know. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #21
I have and it was one of the best things I have done. Desert grandma Feb 2021 #15
Thank you, Desert grandma! smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #22
Not a molar - a canine. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #16
Thanks for your advice, Ms. Toad! smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #23
Molar? Corgigal Feb 2021 #24
I was thinking of going that route. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #28
Yikes! I'm so sorry, my friend! I've been there, too, had an abscess 3x on the same molar Rhiannon12866 Feb 2021 #25
Thanks for the advice, Rhiannon! I have heard of that before, but didn't know what it was. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #29
A bridge attached to only one adjacent tooth Disaffected Feb 2021 #36
I've had two implants csziggy Feb 2021 #26
Thanks so much for sharing the benefit of your experience, csziggy! smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #30
It wasn't nearly as bad as my first shoulder surgery! csziggy Feb 2021 #32
You poor thing! smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #33
I'm lucky to have a high tolerance for pain csziggy Feb 2021 #35
My very last molar on upper right broke and had to come out some years ago. mnhtnbb Feb 2021 #31
Thanks mnhtnbb! smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #34

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
1. Yeah, I got one a few years ago.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 09:45 PM
Feb 2021

Broken upward forward molar. Cost me about $4K. Took many weeks. Didn't have dental insurance. But it worked.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Ugh, that's what I was afraid of.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:11 PM
Feb 2021

I am hoping insurance will cover at least some of it. Thank you for your feedback!

jmbar2

(4,883 posts)
2. Had a similar situation
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 09:45 PM
Feb 2021

I had the root canal done on the very back molar. It is a very difficult procedure because of the weird angles and tight spaces. It was very expensive, then it failed again about a year and a half later.

The Dr. said that the furthest back molar is really unnecessary and you won't notice it when it's gone. He was right.

Facing the same with the first molar. I've spent about $4000 on it total with root canals and crown replacement. Now it's acting suspicious. Not sure what to do if it fails. It's visible.

But don't sweat the furthest molar.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. Good to know! I wonder if I can do without it?
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:14 PM
Feb 2021

She asked me if I grind my teeth and I wasn't sure, but I told her I was often aware of clenching my teeth and I often got headaches from it. She said that in the past few years she has has a flood of patients with cracked and broken teeth and I mentioned that it was probably Trump related. She just laughed.

Thanks for your input!

jmbar2

(4,883 posts)
17. I had my last root canal done at the dental college
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:26 PM
Feb 2021

They charge about half of what the endodontist was going to charge.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Someone else below mentioned going to a dental school, which didn't even occur to me, but
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 12:04 AM
Feb 2021

I think it's a great idea!

a kennedy

(29,658 posts)
37. It's actually called the 3rd molar.....used to work in the dental business.....
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 11:52 AM
Feb 2021
and it’s true a lot of folk can get along ok without the 3rd molar.

gainesvillenole

(121 posts)
3. I had one a few years back....
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 09:50 PM
Feb 2021

The worst part was the extraction of the broken tooth.... once that was done, I had to wait a couple of months for the space to “fill in” and the bone to solidify. Once that was done, they put it the metal post. Heal again then the crown/false tooth put on.
Insurance didn’t cover mine, but policies and companies differ so yours might. I paid directly and it was $3,000 or so.
Good luck.... for me it was well worth it! 👍🏻😁

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. Thank you! I didn't realize that it might be a bit of a longer, drawn out process.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:20 PM
Feb 2021

The whole thing started when I broke a front tooth about 2 weeks ago and had a bond for that and then things just started going south. I haven't had any dental problems my whole life.

Hopefully I can stretch out the payments. I am getting a tax return but not quite that much. I can always ask my parents for a loan if worse comes to worst, but it's kind of a drag having to spend all that money on something so unpleasant.

I really appreciate your feedback! Very helpful!

Yonnie3

(17,434 posts)
4. One for me
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 09:52 PM
Feb 2021

and one for my partner.

It was very expensive, but my dentist sent me to an expensive place because he felt I needed the better quality at that place. I've known him since undergraduate days in the 70s so I followed his advice. I needed a bone graft as well. My partner was much less expensive but didn't require a bone graft.

For each of us, we went to our specialist and they gave a price and also ran it through our dental insurance so we knew the out of pocket cost up front.

Insurance varies widely, so our costs were quite different. I had nearly hit my my annual maximum so I got the bone graft and hardware done in one year and the replacement the next.

Pain was certainly a part of it. It was tolerable with Tylenol/Codeine and Advil.

I'm happy with the molar (an upper).

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Thank you for your feedback!
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:23 PM
Feb 2021

Very helpful and much appreciated. It helps knowing what I might be able to expect. I thought this might be one of those things where I could go in and get it dealt with in an afternoon, but it sounds like it might be a longer process, which might actually end up being better.

I am allergic to opiates, but so far Advil has been working well and I have also been using Orajel which helps too.

Thanks again!

Yonnie3

(17,434 posts)
18. For me it was a nearly a four month process
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:54 PM
Feb 2021

Timeline

Initial visit to implant guy estimates and insurance figured out.

Extraction and implant with bone graft

Months later a checkup with implant guy and an ok to go forward with a fake tooth.

The rest was done with my regular dentist. He made a mold and the tooth and installed it. Cost similar to a crown

As I said the implant guy was expensive compared to others, but guarantees the implant for the rest of my life.

I replaced two molars with one implant because of cost.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. Were you in pain the whole time?
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 12:08 AM
Feb 2021

I am just worried about the recovery process and not being able to live normally while I am going through it.

I suppose it's my own fault for neglecting my dental care, but I honestly think a lot of it was due to Trump stress induced teeth grinding and clenching. I have never had dental problems before. The bastard has really messed me up physically and mentally. I can tell things are already getting better, but the damage has been done.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Thanks! It seems to me like it is the best long term solution and I am not that old, so it makes
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:24 PM
Feb 2021

sense to me. Appreciate your feedback!

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
7. If you have a dental college nearby it's much
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:12 PM
Feb 2021

cheaper there. Plus, they get graded on how good of a job they do.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. Actually, I am in Boston, so we have a lot of good dental schools in the area.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:25 PM
Feb 2021

That is a good suggestion and one I didn't even think of. I will look into that! Thank you so much!

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
13. My parents got a lot of work done at the
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:30 PM
Feb 2021

University of Florida. It’s a process to get admitted into the program but, I think, well worth it.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
14. I have two implants...
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:49 PM
Feb 2021

My posts were done by an oral surgeon, so it was covered under my medical insurance, not under my dental. After waiting 2-3 months, I then went to my dentist for the instalation of the teeth. I was out of pocket for a few under for each implant.

I've been happy with the results.

Desert grandma

(804 posts)
15. I have and it was one of the best things I have done.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:59 PM
Feb 2021

Last edited Fri Feb 26, 2021, 12:46 AM - Edit history (1)

I have 2 insurances, and each of them paid 50 percent of their contracted price. The oral surgeon I used was in network with both insurances. Like the previous poster, I had the bone graft and implant done near the end of one year and the crown over the implant in the next. Check with your insurance, because coverage differs widely. There may be an individual plan you can purchase that covers implants as well. Oral health is so important to overall health. Good luck to you!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. Thank you, Desert grandma!
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 12:13 AM
Feb 2021

Very helpful info! I appreciate it. I made sure to confirm w/ my insurance company that this endodologist was in network since the first one my dentist referred me to was not. It didn't cost me anything today. The insurance company was also very helpful.

Thank you so much for your advice!

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
16. Not a molar - a canine.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:25 PM
Feb 2021

My tooth resorbed itself so there was a great big hollow space inside - since there were no external signs and it was painless, it was too far gone to try a root canal by the time I got my dentist to look for something wrong (I had told him the tooth felt fragile, but couldn't describe it in a way that triggered anything concrete, and it was just off the edge of the X-rays).

I've got two root canals. I'd prefer to keep my own teeth - but an implant is the next best thing. By now the color is a hair off but otherwise I can't tell it from my own teeth.

The length of the process varies depending on whether you have to have a bone graft. I was lucky enough not to need one, but with bone loss you'll probably need a graft - making it a two-step process for the implant itself. Then more steps for the crown (the tooth-like part).

The extraction was partly covered (if I remember correctly). Because I didn't have bone loss the implant was done the same time the extraction was. The implant wasn't covered (but a partial denture would have been). The crown was covered to the same extent every other crown would be - under my insurance that's 50%.

Not good timing for you, but I was able to spread mine over two plan years to maximize the payment (since there's a pretty low cap on a lot of dental work). I had the extraction in one year & the crown the next.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. Thanks for your advice, Ms. Toad!
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 12:18 AM
Feb 2021

It's all so confusing because there are so many different types of dentists you have to see depending upon what the problem is, and I am learning from all of you that it is a much more complicated and drawn out process than I had originally thought it would be.

Unfortunately, it is early in the year, so I don't know if I can drag it into the next calendar year, but at least now I have an idea of what to expect, so I feel a little more prepared for the conversation w/ my regular dentist tomorrow. I am just hoping they will allow some kind of financing so I don't have to pay it all at once.

Thanks again! Very helpful!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
24. Molar?
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 12:55 AM
Feb 2021

Pull it, cheaper and guaranteed. No one will ever see, nor will it ever bother you again.

I handled it that way, all good.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. I was thinking of going that route.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 06:22 PM
Feb 2021

It's the very last one, so I am wondering if I will even miss it. Thanks for your feedback!

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
25. Yikes! I'm so sorry, my friend! I've been there, too, had an abscess 3x on the same molar
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 01:31 AM
Feb 2021

But what my dentist recommended wasn't an implant, but what she called a "bridge." However, it's not a denture, it's a fake tooth which is attached to the tooth next to it and it's permanent. And it's fairly far back in my mouth, but it works, fills the space where my irreparably damaged tooth was and works just fine, I no longer even notice the difference. Plus, the pain is gone. If it's possible for you, I recommend it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. Thanks for the advice, Rhiannon! I have heard of that before, but didn't know what it was.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 06:31 PM
Feb 2021

I will have to look into it. Since it's one of the last molars and so far back, that might be a better and cheaper option.

It's all so confusing, and I don't feel like this dentist I just found is very helpful in addressing my options. I kind of feel like they are just out to make as much money as possible. It's really helpful hearing back from everyone here!

Thanks again for your feedback! Much appreciated!

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
36. A bridge attached to only one adjacent tooth
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 01:35 AM
Feb 2021

is called a cantilever bridge and are not nearly as reliable as one attached on both sides. In any case, the adjacent tooth/teeth have to be ground down and capped and there is no space to get floss between them. Biggest downside however to a cantilever is they tend to fail more often - I have had a couple and would not recommend them as when they fail, the bridge has worked loose of the support tooth and/or the support tooth breaks which may result in it being lost as well.

Implants are the Cadillac treatment but, as others have mentioned, the procedure is quite arduous, especially if a bone transplant is required, and the cost is high.

You might also want to inquire as to where the transplanted bone comes from.

PS, might be worth looking into going to Mexico or Costa Rica for the procedure as prices are much lower there and, if you choose the dentist carefully, the quality is just as high as in the US. Maybe do it in conjunction with a vacation...

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
26. I've had two implants
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 03:31 AM
Feb 2021

One, a molar that had two previous root canals. Long process - extraction, bone graft, healing for three months. Then implant, heal again, then false tooth.No serious pain after the initial work - cold packs helped with pain for the first week.

Meanwhile an old bridge on the other side cracked, so the dentist cut that - left the part of the bridge that was good as a crown on one tooth, made a new crown for the tooth where it had broken, and I got an implant to go where there had been no tooth for decades in between. (I had three pre-molars with no adult teeth, finally had to get them extracted in my forties, and had three bridges. When the other two bridges give up I will get implants to replace the missing teeth in those locations.)

It is expensive, but it is sooooo much better than bridges!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
30. Thanks so much for sharing the benefit of your experience, csziggy!
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 06:39 PM
Feb 2021

I never realized that this was going to be such a long, complicated process. Or so expensive! It sounds like you went through quite an ordeal! I thought knee and arm surgery were bad, but this sounds like a major production.

Thanks again for your input!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
32. It wasn't nearly as bad as my first shoulder surgery!
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 08:59 PM
Feb 2021

THAT was an ordeal. To make a very long story short, that one involved eight months before the surgery trying to avoid it. Then when they got in there, it was about ten times worse than the MRI showed so they had to reconstruct the shoulder joint and rotator cuff structure. After that, six month of physical therapy but I got back to 95% full function.

The two knee surgeries were annoying, but the knee replacements were simple in comparison. You don't want to know my full surgical history.

Compared to all of those, dental implants were easy - and they didn't even knock me out for any of it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. You poor thing!
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 09:55 PM
Feb 2021

I think I have had it easy by comparison. And I thought I went through hell! It's amazing what we can tolerate when we have to.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
35. I'm lucky to have a high tolerance for pain
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 12:20 AM
Feb 2021

But I've had 16 major surgeries since 2001 and that doesn't count the implants or the original shoulder surgery. So I'm glad to be alive and in good enough condition to do most of the things I want to.

Yes, the will to live overcomes a lot of stuff.

mnhtnbb

(31,386 posts)
31. My very last molar on upper right broke and had to come out some years ago.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 07:11 PM
Feb 2021

I elected NOT to replace it with an implant because it doesn't show at all. Haven't missed it. My dentist said it wasn't a problem to not replace it.

Then I had an upper tooth on the other side break and it had to come out. I did elect to replace it with an implant because when I smiled, the missing tooth was apparent. Others have described the process which involved multiple visits. No pain involved, but costly. This was probably 5-6 years ago and it was close to $4,000. by the time I was finished. No dental insurance. That was the greatest pain in the process.

We have an excellent dental school at UNC- Chapel Hill and I have one friend who has a mouth full of problem teeth. She has all her dental work done there.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. Thanks mnhtnbb!
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 09:59 PM
Feb 2021

This tooth is so far back, I don't know if it's worth replacing. It definitely wouldn't show. I think I will have to have another consult and weight the options, but everyone's feedback has been very helpful. I haven't really had any dental problems during my entire adult life, so this is all new to me.

I really appreciate your feedback!

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