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What am I talking about. Well, a free YouTube video movie with commercials, "Cinderella" 1965 introducing Leslie Ann WARREN. RODGERS & HAMMERSTEIN.
Hey!1 It's a whatever night.
Incredible trivia: Leslie Ann was 18 yrs old. She broke down crying singing a key song (Little Corner something). Song exists by SINATRA and GARLAND. (GARLAND comes up as the maximum no matter what.) Her ball dance dress was so heavy she had to be injected with muscle relaxants. Everything (scenes minutes long) took (incredible time) whatever to stage. First version was for Julie ANDREWS, R. RODGERS didn't like it.
So: R&H are the max so this has to be tops no?. This TV version 1965 is said to have been re-played for years like Wizard/Oz. Uh, O.K. No really memorable music for me. Stellar cameos Ginger ROGERS, Walter PIGEON, with Richard R. staging the whole production, R. RODGERS liked it fine. Actually, Celeste HOLM caught the eye as the fairy godmother more than Ginger as the queen.
Rogers & Hammerstein are the tops, but what's wrong (for me?) :
* The bangs on Leslie Ann.
* The "royal" fantasy thing.
* The girl needs a prince.
* The prince thinks he's a prize.
* Lookism all over the place.
* Uh... - what am I supposed to watch, (insert long, depressing stuff here)
* No R&H gorgeous music and lyrics.
IcyPeas
(21,889 posts)🎼In my own little corner
in my own little chair
I can be whatever I want to be...🎶
I loved the evil stepsisters.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)And now doing the Wiki/Google thing see that it meant a lot to tons of people.
And sorry/hope my crotchety remarks don't detract for you. It's all O.K. with me FOR OTHERS. And I see Leslie Ann, Ginger, Walter, Celeste plus the supporting cast in a new (to me) light.
Glad you are reliving pleasant memories/impressions.
sprinkleeninow
(20,252 posts)UTUSN
(70,711 posts)UTUSN
(70,711 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,252 posts)And it hasn't surfaced as yet.
Up in New England a person given to crotchets is delightfully called a curmudgeon.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,252 posts)Je vais bientôt frapper le foin.
Ça a été réel.
We'll have dialogue again soon.
Nite! 🌠🌛
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,252 posts)Nite-all. ♥️
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)That said, I generally do not like bangs like that on anyone. But, they never really bothered me on Leslie. It was a "thing" for the times.
ShazzieB
(16,426 posts)I was 15 (I think) when this first aired, and I absolutely adored it. Those bangs were very much in style at the time. I had them myself (they looked terrible on me, but I didn't know it then ), and so did most of the girls in my school and quite a few young, female celebrities. So the bangs were cool by me.
I do remember thinking Lesley Ann Warren wasn't really pretty enough to play Cinderella, though. In my mind, Cinderella was supposed to be stunningly beautiful, drop dead gorgeous, and Warren was just moderately pretty, in a girl next door, rather ordinary sort of way. Not nearly the level of glamor that I thought was called for!
Later on, I discovered the soundtrack in the library, checked it out, and played that big old 33 1/3 rpm lp until I knew all the songs by heart. I still remember (most of) the lyrics to my three favorites (In My Own Little Corner, Impossible, and The Stepsisters' Lament).
One thing about this version of Cinderella that is different from most other versions is the way the stepsisters were portrayed. Instead of being totally evil and hateful, they were kind of pathetically inept in a way that was played for laughs and actually made you feel a little sorry for them, especially if you were (like me) the kind of girl who always got overlooked by the boys in favor of the cooler, prettier girls. The Stepsisters' Lament, which they sang at the ball, was hilarious. And here's a bit of trivia: Prunella, the "fat" stepsister, was played by Pat Carroll, best known today for voicing Ursula the Sea Witch in The Little Mermaid.
Trueblue1968
(17,228 posts)UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,505 posts)I also remember seeing this as a kid, I think the issue was that she didn't fit the Disney profile which became the standard "Cinderella" that everyone thought of. I also saw that movie, though I don't remember. My mother said she took me to see it as a pre-schooler and said I made a fuss and wanted to leave because I was afraid of the mean cat!
That said, my first real job was for the summer at an amusement park - and I was hired as Cinderella, likely because I fit the Disney profile like all the other fantasy characters in the park, Alice in Wonderland, etc. My duties involved taking kids for rides in a horse driven pumpkin coach. But there was one day when it was pouring rain and the coach, horses, driver and I were forced to take shelter in the horse barn along with a family consisting of two little girls who were next in line for a ride. I was trapped with them and they were full of questions, including why I had black hair when I was on TV! They must have seen the Leslie Ann Warren edition.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,505 posts)My first paying job. And it was anything but pleasant. I had to stand out in the hot sun wearing a long dress, I couldn't take a bathroom break or go to lunch without being stopped to pose for photos with everybody's kids - and I was located right across from Mother Goose who was extremely unpleasant, kept giving me a hard time about everything I did!
no_hypocrisy
(46,122 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)Both the lead characters impressed me as being shallow. I didn't like Leslie Ann Warren's singing voice - too shrill. And I was old enough, and liberated enough that the whole concept of a young woman wanting to dress up for a ball to sell herself to a prince was disgusting.
It put me off watching Warren in anything else ever. I was a tough girl about that sort of thing - and I have always hated dressing up, ever.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)in later years when she appeared and was received wherever as a top star, me not having anything to dispute it. Agree with your take on her performance and this whole Cinderella thing.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Of course, my impressions are that of a thirteen year old who was pretty cynical for my age. In a family of four girls, I was not the brilliant (and beautiful), gregarious, or cute one (my three sisters) and had watched my older sisters through romances.
Although I have been married for over 40 years, I am still not romantic - which works well for my husband since he isn't terribly romantic either, LOL.
ShazzieB
(16,426 posts)Same thing with the Disney cartoon version, and most other adaptations that I've seen. The story line is basically pretty girl meets handsome boy, they fall in love at first sight, and (ultimately) live happily ever after.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)To believe in love at first sight and submission to men. I was already in love with a creature much more attractive than a man - I had a serious horse infatuation.
I got my first horse the same year that Cinderella movie came out. That kept me away from boys and out of the dating scene until I got into college and couldn't take my horse with me.
Horses also taught me to be assertive and gave me physical strength better than most of the boys in my high school, so no boy dared to mess with me.
I'm having a moral dilemma right now - I stitched a needlework picture of the Princess and the Pea. Mostly I picked it for the design and the type of stitching, and intended to give it to my great niece - but now that I have re-read the classic story, I'm not sure about the lesson to be learned from it for a modern girl.
I've found some alternatives, now to decide which one(s) to add to the gift of the picture!
Me.
(35,454 posts)there are slightly different versions of this Ethel Merman story but essentially the same.
Ethel Merman was doing Gypsy and one night after the show she and her friend Benay Venuta were going out. EM put a turban on and started pulling out hair in the front for bangs when Benay told her she didn't need them and to push them back under the turban. EM turned to her and said..."F...you Benay, I need a little softening."
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)And one other time a few years later. I liked it, I remembered it for a long time.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Don't know when I'll watch it but it's good to know where to find it.