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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:48 PM Aug 2021

Can you really be addicted to chocolate? I mean, like a drug or alcohol?

I had to give up wine a couple of years ago because it was making me sick. That was fine but now, suddenly, I can't eat enough chocolate. I love those fancy ice cream bars with choc. and nuts. I had to stop eating little snacks of chocolate like thin mints. I drink a Merlot that is made without alcohol (or made as Merlot first then had the alcohol removed), but only at dinner.

I really don't crave anything but chocolate.

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Can you really be addicted to chocolate? I mean, like a drug or alcohol? (Original Post) CTyankee Aug 2021 OP
How about Nabisco Chocolate Pinwheels? chocolatpi Aug 2021 #1
Can you be addicted to chocolate? elleng Aug 2021 #2
Well, I might not be because I do limit myself. That said, I spend money I never used to spend on CTyankee Aug 2021 #8
Chocolate has caffeine in it so yeah, maybe addictive csziggy Aug 2021 #3
I thought of the caffeine content, too. wnylib Aug 2021 #13
Hmmm, maybe that is why I crave cashews sometimes csziggy Aug 2021 #17
Could be. That would be my excuse wnylib Aug 2021 #21
For diabetical reasons OriginalGeek Aug 2021 #4
Thanks for mentioning them! Lars39 Aug 2021 #5
lol yep OriginalGeek Aug 2021 #6
See my #13. Getting enough magnesium might help. wnylib Aug 2021 #14
thanks! good to know. OriginalGeek Aug 2021 #16
My parents had a few of the Florida Highway paintings csziggy Aug 2021 #18
thank you! OriginalGeek Aug 2021 #22
I think these are some of the Florida Highwaymen pictures that were in my parents' house csziggy Aug 2021 #23
as the drug warriors basically redefined addiction to mean anything one can abuse Voltaire2 Aug 2021 #7
There has long been a distinction drawn between psychological vs. physical addiction Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #9
when the conflation is used to lump pot with heroin its bullshit Voltaire2 Aug 2021 #10
Agree on that count, and I think all drugs including heroin should be legal I would add (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #11
Some things are called "soft addictions" and eating too many sweets is definitely one of them. milestogo Aug 2021 #12
Briefly put.... DFW Aug 2021 #15
Hey, glad to see you back. I have done some research on hotels in Barcelona and I jotted down CTyankee Aug 2021 #20
I had an aunt that would drink cans of Hershey syrup when she got stressed. Hotler Aug 2021 #19

chocolatpi

(7,888 posts)
1. How about Nabisco Chocolate Pinwheels?
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:54 PM
Aug 2021

My diet downfall is always something made with chocolate. I love it all, dark, light, sweet, semisweet. Mrs. Sees chocolates are wonderful.

elleng

(131,136 posts)
2. Can you be addicted to chocolate?
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:58 PM
Aug 2021

Though this is still a controversial topic, a growing amount of research supports treating food addictions like other types of substance addictions (3, 4, 5, 6, 7).

Addictive foods impact many of the same brain and nervous system pathways typically affected by drug addictions. They might also elicit behaviors similar to those caused by other addictions (4, 5, 7, 8).

Thus, food addiction may occur when specific foods or nutrients repeatedly trigger your brain’s reward system.

Addictive properties
Some foods are believed to be more addictive than others.

Highly processed foods that are high in sugar and fat — like many types of chocolate — are often considered more addictive than less processed foods like fruits and vegetables (5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12).

Here’s a look at how much sugar, fat, and carbs an average 1.5-ounce (45-gram) serving of chocolate contains (13, 14, 15, 16, 17):

As you can see, one serving of chocolate may contain up to half the DV for sugar and one-fifth of the DV for fat.

High carbohydrate foods — including chocolate and other sugary sweets — may cause addiction-like cravings. They also alter your blood sugar and hormone levels in ways similar to other addictive substances (5, 11).

Plus, these changes in blood levels affect dopamine in your body. Dopamine is a chemical messenger that plays an important role in your brain’s motivation and reward pathways (5, 6, 18, 19). >>>

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/chocolate-addiction

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. Well, I might not be because I do limit myself. That said, I spend money I never used to spend on
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:03 PM
Aug 2021

getting the best chocolate I can.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
3. Chocolate has caffeine in it so yeah, maybe addictive
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:02 PM
Aug 2021

I consider myself a chocoholic - for me the day is not complete until I have at least some chocolate. During the winter I make hot chocolate from my homemade cocoa mix; in the summer I make "magic" chocolate shake smoothies with the same mix. Those satisfy my cravings without adding a lot of calories.

Cocoa mix

2 cups sugar (or Splenda or whatever sugar substitute you prefer)
1 cup unsweetened cocoa
1 tsp salt
2 tsp cornstarch
1 pack (quart size) powdered milk
Mix thoroughly, store in a cool dry place.

To make hot chocolate, put two tablespoons in a cup, add 1 cup boiling water (or milk), about a tablespoon then stir, then gradually add the rest of the water (or milk).

"Magic Chocolate Shake Smoothie
Make in blender.
1 cup ice - blend until finely chopped
2 scoops (about 4 tablespoons) cocoa mix
1 scoop chocolate flavor protein powder (optional)
1/2 cup milk
Blend until smooth

Note - the protein powder makes it sort of foam up and actually makes it smoother, sort of the consistency of a thin milkshake.

To make a mocha version, add 1 teaspoon of instant coffee.

wnylib

(21,615 posts)
13. I thought of the caffeine content, too.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:21 AM
Aug 2021

Another possibility is that chocolate has magnesium in it, a mineral that the body requires. If someone doesn't have other food sources for magnesium, it could result in a craving for chocolate. Other sources for magnesium are:

Almonds, cashews, flaxseed, peanuts, pumpkin seeds

Black beans, lima beans, edamame

Quinoa, shredded wheat

Nonfat milk, plain yogurt

Cooked spinach

Eating some whole grains, legumes, nuts, fruits (maybe with yogurt or cottage cheese) and veggies every day should give enough magnesium. Food sources are better than supplements.

wnylib

(21,615 posts)
21. Could be. That would be my excuse
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:23 PM
Aug 2021

for getting some chocolate cashew bark. Dark chocolate has more magnesium than milk chocolate.

A piece of dark chocolate cashew bark a couple times a week should help. No need for it every day since other foods can provide magnesium, too.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
4. For diabetical reasons
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:07 PM
Aug 2021

I am supposed to give up sugar.

And I am finding it to be realistically impossible.

And Chocolate is the number one reason why.

Even knowing I will almost certainly lose limb and life if I continue, I continue.


On a far more exciting note, this weekend my wife and I bought us a couple Florida Highwaymen paintings for our 35th anniversary. I love them and even if they go down in value I will always love them. Maybe I should try again cutting down sugar so I can enjoy them longer.

Lars39

(26,116 posts)
5. Thanks for mentioning them!
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:12 PM
Aug 2021

First I’ve ever heard of them….love the art! Like having a Hawaiian shirt for your walls.

Chocolate and sugar…I somehow gave it up cold turkey a while back. Was hard at first, now I don’t crave it at all.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
6. lol yep
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:19 PM
Aug 2021

I've been hearing about them on NPR for years and have always loved the ones I've seen online and we found ourselves in a small gallery that had several so we just decided to buy a couple. I actually only wanted one but she liked a different one so we got both lol.


(My wife and I are both native Floridians and the old nature scenes just appeal to us)


Maybe if I start collecting more of them I won't be able to afford chocolate so win/win!

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
16. thanks! good to know.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:59 AM
Aug 2021

there are several things on that list I already like so it should help although I do prefer my peanuts in butter cup form.

Fare thee well, Reese's - I loved you so!

I want to like yogurt but so far I've only been able to tolerate it when it's flavored and mixed with all the good stuff I shouldn't have. Whole milk, Greek Vanilla yogurt with Bear Naked Triple Berry granola and Cherry Infused Craisins is my favorite but I know all that added stuff has sugar so I always wonder if nothing would be better. But I can't eat nothing so if I don't eat that I'll scrounge for whatever else is in the house.

I'll get a small cup of plain yogurt and see if that drastically reduces my enjoyment and hopefully it won't. I think it would be a step in the right direction. Maybe replace the Craisins with almonds. (Bear Naked makes a vanilla almond granola that might also be good)

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
18. My parents had a few of the Florida Highway paintings
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 AM
Aug 2021

I'm not sure who got them out of the estate. While I find them very appealing, I simply did not have the wall space for anymore pictures.

I'm glad there are people who still like the images and hope you enjoy your pictures for a very long time!

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
22. thank you!
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:07 PM
Aug 2021

I am at work and have already asked my wife to send me a picture of them because I miss them lol.

We think they will also be a good match if we get to move in the next year or so. We're on a waiting list for a 55+ community out closer to the coast and the décor in the neighborhood is more beachy themed than where we are now.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
23. I think these are some of the Florida Highwaymen pictures that were in my parents' house
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 05:13 PM
Aug 2021








But I am not certain - those were all in their house and I know some were Highwaymen pictures.

Dad lived in Polk County, Florida from 1925 when he was two until he died. Mom, since 1948, so they both appreciated Florida imagery and history.

Voltaire2

(13,194 posts)
7. as the drug warriors basically redefined addiction to mean anything one can abuse
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:36 PM
Aug 2021

'yes'.

Can you get a physical dependence that can require medical intervention on withdrawal, like you can with alcohol or opiates? no.
There is a fairly short list of substances that can:
1) exhibit tolerance symptoms, requiring increasing dosage to satisfy the dependency
2) exhibit physical withdrawal symptoms, some of which are severe enough to require medical intervention.

But thanks the the deliberate conflation, gambling sex, tv, video games, snacks, pot, etc are all 'addictive'.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. There has long been a distinction drawn between psychological vs. physical addiction
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:41 PM
Aug 2021

I remember reading about it when I was a kid in the 1970's and I'd imagine it was a fairly old concept even then.

You are defining the properties of substances that are physically addictive.

Whereas just about anything one enjoys can be psychologically 'addictive'.

Gambling is a great example of something that can DEFINITELY be psychologically addictive, and cause tremendous harm. Sex can be too, if one engages in particularly risky behavior as a result. Same with overeating.

They're 'real addictions' in my book even if they don't involve a physically addictive substance.

Voltaire2

(13,194 posts)
10. when the conflation is used to lump pot with heroin its bullshit
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:07 PM
Aug 2021

and the current f'ing war on drugs started in the early 70's. With Nixon.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
12. Some things are called "soft addictions" and eating too many sweets is definitely one of them.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:50 PM
Aug 2021

But it doesn't have the same characteristic as an addiction to drugs.

Judith Wright wrote a book on soft addictions.

https://judithwright.com/soft-addictions/

DFW

(54,445 posts)
15. Briefly put....
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:58 AM
Aug 2021

If you should ever find yourself in the vicinity of Barcelona, and you see a sign saying "Fargas," run as fast as you can in the opposite direction!! It's the only way of not being induced into buying an apartment across the street and never leaving.

"And still those voices are calling from far away
Wake you up in the middle of the night,
Just to hear them say...
Welcome to the Hotel Barcelona....."

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. Hey, glad to see you back. I have done some research on hotels in Barcelona and I jotted down
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:40 AM
Aug 2021

the name/address of one I was going to ask you about. But alas! it has vanished in my pile of notes. I can explain: I am finishing my second book and have notes to myself all over my desk. Hopefully, I will find it soon and will PM you here at DU.

Hope your travels and family are wonderful. Stay tuned. I'll be back...

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
19. I had an aunt that would drink cans of Hershey syrup when she got stressed.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:26 AM
Aug 2021

That was back when there was pint cans and you had to use and old school beer opener.

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