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I wonder if people who don't believe in God are more likely to (Original Post) Raven Sep 2021 OP
The very religious and atheists have the least fear of death. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #1
I know a hospice nurse who told me that religious people seem more afraid to die liberal_mama Sep 2021 #2
God is soooo vengeful. Omnipresent Sep 2021 #11
The people I know who claim to be very religious seem very afraid of death. zuul Sep 2021 #16
That's definitely true for my super-religious sister. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #20
I think it's because, deep down inside, they're afraid they are wrong about it all. Earth-shine Sep 2021 #23
Did God say there was a hell??? Or did the people that wrote the Bible say there was a hell??? a kennedy Sep 2021 #32
Nope. Why would you think so? LakeArenal Sep 2021 #3
Same Piasladic Sep 2021 #37
Losing your partner is a whole different problem altogether. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #38
was it tosh or marley who said 'Everyone wants to go to Heaven but nobody wants to die'... samnsara Sep 2021 #4
I don't believe in Heaven or Hell, but I do believe in reincarnation. Haggard Celine Sep 2021 #5
I sorta believe in reincarnation because energy cannot be be destroyed so it has to go somewhere. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #39
yeah -but the odds Piasladic Sep 2021 #41
Not as unlikely as a deity. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #44
That's how I think of it as well. Luciferous Sep 2021 #46
Mainly no one knows. I might die here, go through a worm hole and come out in another dimension . LakeArenal Sep 2021 #47
Ha, that would be pretty cool! Luciferous Sep 2021 #49
Not me... MiHale Sep 2021 #6
Not Faux pas Sep 2021 #7
Atheist here. I'm not afraid of death lanlady Sep 2021 #8
Steve Jobs is definitely in Hell! Omnipresent Sep 2021 #12
I have a relative who is Pentecostal, and she believes more in Hell than she does in God viva la Sep 2021 #9
Nope. Sibelius Fan Sep 2021 #10
No, just the opposite I would think. Croney Sep 2021 #13
I think it's just the opposite. As a non believer, I accept that death is simply the end of life. sinkingfeeling Sep 2021 #14
What's to be afraid of? sarge43 Sep 2021 #15
I don't think so. nancy1942 Sep 2021 #17
Afraid? No, not me... ret5hd Sep 2021 #18
Not me. Lunabell Sep 2021 #19
Uuhhhh, rownesheck Sep 2021 #21
There is nothing that I feared about the time before I was born alphafemale Sep 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Sep 2021 #30
lol. What I think is funny is the number of people claiming to remember past lives alphafemale Sep 2021 #31
Yes past lives seem almost better. No one past life says I was a slave in India. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #40
oh god - I remember it all Piasladic Sep 2021 #42
Geez. I missed out on the affluent. I hope I do better in the next round. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #45
I don't. Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2021 #24
Why would we? It's not as if we're the ones concerned about what comes next. Solly Mack Sep 2021 #25
why would they be more likely? Skittles Sep 2021 #26
I am a hard-core atheist and I'm not especially afraid of dying. Laffy Kat Sep 2021 #27
No, check my tagline HAB911 Sep 2021 #28
The only way to avoid dying is to avoid being born. NNadir Sep 2021 #29
and still love Ron Reagan's "this is Ron Reagan, not afraid to burn in hell" a kennedy Sep 2021 #33
Not in my experience, and personally, no. malthaussen Sep 2021 #34
Nope we can do it Sep 2021 #35
Not at all for this Atheist. Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #36
This isn't lounge material. Mosby Sep 2021 #43
Why so harsh? Piasladic Sep 2021 #48

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
2. I know a hospice nurse who told me that religious people seem more afraid to die
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:02 PM
Sep 2021

She thinks it's because they are worried about going to hell.

Omnipresent

(5,852 posts)
11. God is soooo vengeful.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:32 PM
Sep 2021

But, what is a couple more years here. Eventually, they get to spend eternity in Hell!!

zuul

(14,632 posts)
16. The people I know who claim to be very religious seem very afraid of death.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:45 PM
Sep 2021

And they're the ones who wail the most when a loved one dies. I thought they would be happy that their friend/family member is "going to meet their king" yet they freak out much more than atheists.

Most of the atheists I know are not afraid of death.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,879 posts)
20. That's definitely true for my super-religious sister.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 03:31 PM
Sep 2021

She's absolutely the most afraid of death among all of my siblings and me. The rest of us are more accepting of the inevitable, and welcome it compared to a life of suffering.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
23. I think it's because, deep down inside, they're afraid they are wrong about it all.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 04:37 PM
Sep 2021

I have heard it said by the religious that "Doubt and uncertainty are part of having faith."

Mmmm.

Others say, "There are no atheists in foxholes."

I don't believe that statement has any absolute truth.

By that, I mean, perhaps the atheists got out?

a kennedy

(30,152 posts)
32. Did God say there was a hell??? Or did the people that wrote the Bible say there was a hell???
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 06:44 PM
Sep 2021

I always think of the 10 commandments…..were those God’s rules?? If ther IS a hell I really do not want to go.

LakeArenal

(29,037 posts)
3. Nope. Why would you think so?
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:05 PM
Sep 2021

I’m not afraid some deity is sending me to hell.

I lead a life that doesn’t need redemption.
I don’t steal or hurt people or animals intentionally.

I pay my taxes, I’m not a cheater, and
I don’t hate.

The only part of dying that worries me is
how painful it might be and who will take care of my dog when I’m gone.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
37. Same
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 01:34 AM
Sep 2021

I'm more afraid of my partner croaking before me. He has lovely saltwater tanks and always looks after the other fish, dog, and cat. He also tends the yard. I've tried to do these things, but my heart isn't into it. It'll be a zoo if he dies...

samnsara

(17,741 posts)
4. was it tosh or marley who said 'Everyone wants to go to Heaven but nobody wants to die'...
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:11 PM
Sep 2021

...i do envy believers as it may be easier for them to deal with the death of a loved one...

Haggard Celine

(16,899 posts)
5. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell, but I do believe in reincarnation.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:12 PM
Sep 2021

I'll be curious when I die. It will be Interesting to see what happens, if anything. It seems to me that death would only be scary if a person has done something really awful or has been a bad person. Of course, people like that probably don't feel any guilt about what they do, so they wouldn't be afraid.

LakeArenal

(29,037 posts)
47. Mainly no one knows. I might die here, go through a worm hole and come out in another dimension .
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 07:01 PM
Sep 2021

🤷🏼‍♀️

MiHale

(9,946 posts)
6. Not me...
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:14 PM
Sep 2021

I’ll fight to stay alive, of course, dying is natural, nothing is permanent. I guess living on the edge of death kinda toughens you. Actually my biggest fear about dying is this pandemic. Don’t want to be all alone that’d bother my family to no end. I’ve faced death a number of times, military and lately health.
I’ve totally accepted my fate.

Faux pas

(14,788 posts)
7. Not
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:17 PM
Sep 2021

in my case. Probably because I don't believe in hell either...unless you want to count the hell we're living in now.

lanlady

(7,143 posts)
8. Atheist here. I'm not afraid of death
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:19 PM
Sep 2021

I don’t want to die, no one does, but in dying you make way for the young and the yet-to-be-born. Steve Jobs said shortly before he passed away that death is life’s way of renewing itself. It’s hard to argue with that.

I’m more afraid of being old and feeble and unable to take care of myself. I’ve always been an independent type and the thought of dependency scares me a lot more than the thought of my future death.

viva la

(3,458 posts)
9. I have a relative who is Pentecostal, and she believes more in Hell than she does in God
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:23 PM
Sep 2021

She does believe in God, but as an arbitary tyrant who must be obeyed and loved totally. She says she's 90% convinced she's going to hell.
Now this is someone who is a difficult person, but no big sinner. She doesn't do anything really wrong (complaining about my cooking when I brought her a casserole when she was sick is the worst of it).
But she's sure she doesn't love God enough to escape eternal damnatione.

She's Protestant, so "doing" isn't very important in her theology. All that really counts is how entirely you worship God. And in her mind, almost no one gives God the amount of worship he demands. MOST people are going to hell!

I told her that sounded like a counter-productive God, punishing the ones who love him most, but she just knew she was falling short.

That sort of person lives all the time in terror. But she's also scared to do anything (like vote against Trump) that she thinks God might interpret as being less faithful to him.

This is the sort of person who would get Covid and assume it was God's doing, and if he wanted her to die, well, that's all right with her. But...
most of these dead-enders go on and on about how "heaven has got another angel" and "God called him home." She would be more, "God wants me to be the torture target of demons. I guess i have to give into God's will."

sinkingfeeling

(51,695 posts)
14. I think it's just the opposite. As a non believer, I accept that death is simply the end of life.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:00 PM
Sep 2021

No biggie.

sarge43

(28,960 posts)
15. What's to be afraid of?
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:01 PM
Sep 2021

The brain is dead, so no consciousness. The same condition before I existed.

Now, how I'm going to die, that does bother me. There are very few good ways.

nancy1942

(637 posts)
17. I don't think so.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:49 PM
Sep 2021

My personal experience with dying people tells me that the more religious a person is the more likely they are to fear death. I've always been puzzled by this apparent contradicition. I would think they would be really eager to go meet their maker....?

ret5hd

(20,720 posts)
18. Afraid? No, not me...
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 03:09 PM
Sep 2021

I’m more of a “Well, I won’t hafta put up with y’alls shit anymore!” kinda guy.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
21. Uuhhhh,
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 03:36 PM
Sep 2021

no. Not afraid to die. In fact, I'll welcome it. At least I won't have to work anymore! Hooray!

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
22. There is nothing that I feared about the time before I was born
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

Why should I be afraid of my later nonexistence?

Response to alphafemale (Reply #22)

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
31. lol. What I think is funny is the number of people claiming to remember past lives
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 06:07 PM
Sep 2021

Who claim to be nobles or otherwise wealthy and important.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
42. oh god - I remember it all
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:37 PM
Sep 2021

I think I was a slave in Center X. We all had to wear robes and massage feet until we fell over from exhaustion.

I died, but in my dream I was told...

Since I was a good woman and I followed all the rules, I would be reborn - white and affluent

which is where I am now. Must be true.

LakeArenal

(29,037 posts)
45. Geez. I missed out on the affluent. I hope I do better in the next round.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 05:14 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe I didn’t massage those feet so well.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
24. I don't.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:27 PM
Sep 2021

We humans, with all creatures, are not meant to go forever. Time takes a toll on us. I hate the thought of living an overextended life. The pain would have to be horrible.

Solly Mack

(90,902 posts)
25. Why would we? It's not as if we're the ones concerned about what comes next.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:48 PM
Sep 2021

There's plenty of science out there explaining what happens to a dead body. Mystery solved.

Skittles

(153,956 posts)
26. why would they be more likely?
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 08:00 PM
Sep 2021

I would think less likely. I am absolutely not afraid of death. Dying, yes, but not death. That's just "the way it is".

Laffy Kat

(16,415 posts)
27. I am a hard-core atheist and I'm not especially afraid of dying.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 02:04 AM
Sep 2021

The way I see it, it's simply like turning off a light. There is nothingness.

HAB911

(9,054 posts)
28. No, check my tagline
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 04:01 PM
Sep 2021

there is much comfort in knowing the universe is NOT out to kill you, it just doesn't care

 

NNadir

(33,642 posts)
29. The only way to avoid dying is to avoid being born.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 04:12 PM
Sep 2021

I don't recall asking to be born, and no memory of being a zygote or a blastula or even a fetus. These decisions of state were made by other people.

I didn't fear being born. It just happened. Though I recall none of it, details were reported to me. I suppose being born is like being under anesthesia, since one recalls none of it.

I don't expect to recall dying.

I expect that dying is something like being a zygote without metabolism, or like being a rock. It's not likely to bother me any more than a rock seems bothered by being a rock.

It seems to me that the fun of dying is that you can't do it unless you've lived. I've lived, and while it all seems mysterious somehow, it is way beyond my ability to claim that I know all about why I lived. I suspect that "why" question is a stupid one anyway. It is enough to have done it.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
48. Why so harsh?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:31 PM
Sep 2021

The Lounge, as I understand it, is for fun. I found this discussion really fun. I hope we have more.

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