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Fri Sep 10, 2021, 11:57 AM

I wonder if people who don't believe in God are more likely to

be afraid of dying than people who do. Thoughts?

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Reply I wonder if people who don't believe in God are more likely to (Original post)
Raven Sep 10 OP
Irish_Dem Sep 10 #1
liberal_mama Sep 10 #2
Omnipresent Sep 10 #11
zuul Sep 10 #16
Buckeye_Democrat Sep 10 #20
Earth-shine Sep 10 #23
a kennedy Sep 11 #32
LakeArenal Sep 10 #3
Piasladic Sep 13 #37
LakeArenal Sep 13 #38
samnsara Sep 10 #4
Haggard Celine Sep 10 #5
LakeArenal Sep 13 #39
Piasladic Sep 13 #41
LakeArenal Sep 13 #44
Luciferous Sep 13 #46
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Piasladic Sep 13 #48

Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:01 PM

1. The very religious and atheists have the least fear of death.

Compared to those in between.


Here is study from Oxford University, UK.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-03-24-study-who-least-afraid-death

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:02 PM

2. I know a hospice nurse who told me that religious people seem more afraid to die

She thinks it's because they are worried about going to hell.

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Response to liberal_mama (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:32 PM

11. God is soooo vengeful.

But, what is a couple more years here. Eventually, they get to spend eternity in Hell!!

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Response to liberal_mama (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:45 PM

16. The people I know who claim to be very religious seem very afraid of death.

And they're the ones who wail the most when a loved one dies. I thought they would be happy that their friend/family member is "going to meet their king" yet they freak out much more than atheists.

Most of the atheists I know are not afraid of death.

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Response to liberal_mama (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:31 PM

20. That's definitely true for my super-religious sister.

She's absolutely the most afraid of death among all of my siblings and me. The rest of us are more accepting of the inevitable, and welcome it compared to a life of suffering.

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Response to liberal_mama (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 03:37 PM

23. I think it's because, deep down inside, they're afraid they are wrong about it all.

I have heard it said by the religious that "Doubt and uncertainty are part of having faith."

Mmmm.

Others say, "There are no atheists in foxholes."

I don't believe that statement has any absolute truth.

By that, I mean, perhaps the atheists got out?

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Response to liberal_mama (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 05:44 PM

32. Did God say there was a hell??? Or did the people that wrote the Bible say there was a hell???

I always think of the 10 commandmentsÖ..were those Godís rules?? If ther IS a hell I really do not want to go.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:05 PM

3. Nope. Why would you think so?

Iím not afraid some deity is sending me to hell.

I lead a life that doesnít need redemption.
I donít steal or hurt people or animals intentionally.

I pay my taxes, Iím not a cheater, and
I donít hate.

The only part of dying that worries me is
how painful it might be and who will take care of my dog when Iím gone.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 12:34 AM

37. Same

I'm more afraid of my partner croaking before me. He has lovely saltwater tanks and always looks after the other fish, dog, and cat. He also tends the yard. I've tried to do these things, but my heart isn't into it. It'll be a zoo if he dies...

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Response to Piasladic (Reply #37)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 01:30 PM

38. Losing your partner is a whole different problem altogether.

Thatís verrrry scary indeed.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:11 PM

4. was it tosh or marley who said 'Everyone wants to go to Heaven but nobody wants to die'...

...i do envy believers as it may be easier for them to deal with the death of a loved one...

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:12 PM

5. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell, but I do believe in reincarnation.

I'll be curious when I die. It will be Interesting to see what happens, if anything. It seems to me that death would only be scary if a person has done something really awful or has been a bad person. Of course, people like that probably don't feel any guilt about what they do, so they wouldn't be afraid.

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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 01:39 PM

39. I sorta believe in reincarnation because energy cannot be be destroyed so it has to go somewhere.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #39)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:29 PM

41. yeah -but the odds

That any organic mess will realign? unlikely

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Response to Piasladic (Reply #41)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:12 PM

44. Not as unlikely as a deity.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #39)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 05:11 PM

46. That's how I think of it as well.

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Response to Luciferous (Reply #46)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 06:01 PM

47. Mainly no one knows. I might die here, go through a worm hole and come out in another dimension .

🤷🏼‍♀️

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #47)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 09:36 PM

49. Ha, that would be pretty cool!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:14 PM

6. Not me...

Iíll fight to stay alive, of course, dying is natural, nothing is permanent. I guess living on the edge of death kinda toughens you. Actually my biggest fear about dying is this pandemic. Donít want to be all alone thatíd bother my family to no end. Iíve faced death a number of times, military and lately health.
Iíve totally accepted my fate.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:17 PM

7. Not

in my case. Probably because I don't believe in hell either...unless you want to count the hell we're living in now.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:19 PM

8. Atheist here. I'm not afraid of death

I donít want to die, no one does, but in dying you make way for the young and the yet-to-be-born. Steve Jobs said shortly before he passed away that death is lifeís way of renewing itself. Itís hard to argue with that.

Iím more afraid of being old and feeble and unable to take care of myself. Iíve always been an independent type and the thought of dependency scares me a lot more than the thought of my future death.

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Response to lanlady (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:38 PM

12. Steve Jobs is definitely in Hell!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:23 PM

9. I have a relative who is Pentecostal, and she believes more in Hell than she does in God

She does believe in God, but as an arbitary tyrant who must be obeyed and loved totally. She says she's 90% convinced she's going to hell.
Now this is someone who is a difficult person, but no big sinner. She doesn't do anything really wrong (complaining about my cooking when I brought her a casserole when she was sick is the worst of it).
But she's sure she doesn't love God enough to escape eternal damnatione.

She's Protestant, so "doing" isn't very important in her theology. All that really counts is how entirely you worship God. And in her mind, almost no one gives God the amount of worship he demands. MOST people are going to hell!

I told her that sounded like a counter-productive God, punishing the ones who love him most, but she just knew she was falling short.

That sort of person lives all the time in terror. But she's also scared to do anything (like vote against Trump) that she thinks God might interpret as being less faithful to him.

This is the sort of person who would get Covid and assume it was God's doing, and if he wanted her to die, well, that's all right with her. But...
most of these dead-enders go on and on about how "heaven has got another angel" and "God called him home." She would be more, "God wants me to be the torture target of demons. I guess i have to give into God's will."

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:30 PM

10. Nope.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:39 PM

13. No, just the opposite I would think.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:00 PM

14. I think it's just the opposite. As a non believer, I accept that death is simply the end of life.

No biggie.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:01 PM

15. What's to be afraid of?

The brain is dead, so no consciousness. The same condition before I existed.

Now, how I'm going to die, that does bother me. There are very few good ways.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:49 PM

17. I don't think so.

My personal experience with dying people tells me that the more religious a person is the more likely they are to fear death. I've always been puzzled by this apparent contradicition. I would think they would be really eager to go meet their maker....?

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:09 PM

18. Afraid? No, not me...

Iím more of a ďWell, I wonít hafta put up with yíalls shit anymore!Ē kinda guy.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:27 PM

19. Not me.

There's no heaven or hell so why worry?

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:36 PM

21. Uuhhhh,

no. Not afraid to die. In fact, I'll welcome it. At least I won't have to work anymore! Hooray!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 02:52 PM

22. There is nothing that I feared about the time before I was born

Why should I be afraid of my later nonexistence?

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Response to ExTex (Reply #30)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 05:07 PM

31. lol. What I think is funny is the number of people claiming to remember past lives

Who claim to be nobles or otherwise wealthy and important.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #31)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 01:42 PM

40. Yes past lives seem almost better. No one past life says I was a slave in India.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #40)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:37 PM

42. oh god - I remember it all

I think I was a slave in Center X. We all had to wear robes and massage feet until we fell over from exhaustion.

I died, but in my dream I was told...

Since I was a good woman and I followed all the rules, I would be reborn - white and affluent

which is where I am now. Must be true.

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Response to Piasladic (Reply #42)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:14 PM

45. Geez. I missed out on the affluent. I hope I do better in the next round.

Maybe I didnít massage those feet so well.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 04:27 PM

24. I don't.

We humans, with all creatures, are not meant to go forever. Time takes a toll on us. I hate the thought of living an overextended life. The pain would have to be horrible.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 04:48 PM

25. Why would we? It's not as if we're the ones concerned about what comes next.

There's plenty of science out there explaining what happens to a dead body. Mystery solved.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 07:00 PM

26. why would they be more likely?

I would think less likely. I am absolutely not afraid of death. Dying, yes, but not death. That's just "the way it is".

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 01:04 AM

27. I am a hard-core atheist and I'm not especially afraid of dying.

The way I see it, it's simply like turning off a light. There is nothingness.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 03:01 PM

28. No, check my tagline

there is much comfort in knowing the universe is NOT out to kill you, it just doesn't care

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 03:12 PM

29. The only way to avoid dying is to avoid being born.

I don't recall asking to be born, and no memory of being a zygote or a blastula or even a fetus. These decisions of state were made by other people.

I didn't fear being born. It just happened. Though I recall none of it, details were reported to me. I suppose being born is like being under anesthesia, since one recalls none of it.

I don't expect to recall dying.

I expect that dying is something like being a zygote without metabolism, or like being a rock. It's not likely to bother me any more than a rock seems bothered by being a rock.

It seems to me that the fun of dying is that you can't do it unless you've lived. I've lived, and while it all seems mysterious somehow, it is way beyond my ability to claim that I know all about why I lived. I suspect that "why" question is a stupid one anyway. It is enough to have done it.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 05:46 PM

33. and still love Ron Reagan's "this is Ron Reagan, not afraid to burn in hell"

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:12 AM

34. Not in my experience, and personally, no.

It's more the reverse, in my experience.

-- Mal

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:45 AM

35. Nope

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 12:07 AM

36. Not at all for this Atheist.

What's to fear?

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:05 PM

43. This isn't lounge material.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #43)

Mon Sep 13, 2021, 07:31 PM

48. Why so harsh?

The Lounge, as I understand it, is for fun. I found this discussion really fun. I hope we have more.

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