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sl8

(13,767 posts)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 06:09 AM Jul 2022

Two 5" pizzas instead of one 9" pizza? I think not: (Twitter)

And, as the top Reddit comment points out, for comparison purposes, you don't even need to use pi - just compare the square of the radii (or diameters, if that's easier). Easy-peasy.











roychandan
@cretiredroy
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I ordered a 9-inch Pizza.
After a while, the waiter brought two 5-inch pizzas and said, the 9-inch pizza was not available and he was giving me two 5-inches Pizzas instead, and that I am getting 1 inch more for free!
I requested the waiter to call the owner.

[...]

I gave him the mathematical formula to calculate the area of a circle.
Circle Area = π r²
where π = 3.1415926,
r is the radius of the circle.
So, a 9-inch circle area = 63.62 sq.in.
while a 5-inch circle area is 19.63 sq.in.

[...]

The two 5-inch circle areas add up to 39.26 sq.in .
I said that even if he gave three pizzas, I would still lose-out.
"How can you say you are giving me an extra inch for free?"
The owner was speechless.
He finally gave me 4 pizzas.

Take Maths seriously!





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Two 5" pizzas instead of one 9" pizza? I think not: (Twitter) (Original Post) sl8 Jul 2022 OP
Pie are square. Pizza sre round. Girard442 Jul 2022 #1
The fatal flaw? LOL. nt sl8 Jul 2022 #2
So I should be buying whistler162 Jul 2022 #8
In English language, it is not uncommon to say "pizza pie" like Sinatra. Most "pies" are round. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #26
Paging Walter White to confirm. callous taoboy Jul 2022 #3
"Apply yourself!" n/t VWolf Jul 2022 #17
Yo, like science and shit. callous taoboy Jul 2022 #35
Incidentally, I can no longer read or hear "I think not" without thinking of the old Descartes joke sl8 Jul 2022 #4
Reminds me of Monty Python's "Bruces' Philosophers Song" Grokenstein Jul 2022 #7
Outstanding! Thanks. sl8 Jul 2022 #11
+100 nt reACTIONary Jul 2022 #12
+100 nt reACTIONary Jul 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Roy Rolling Jul 2022 #5
I'm not following. sl8 Jul 2022 #9
What? Rabrrrrrr Jul 2022 #16
Wow cold pizza and looking like whistler162 Jul 2022 #6
How is not wanting to get ripped off Laha Jul 2022 #15
that isn't being an a hole dsc Jul 2022 #18
Yes yes it is! whistler162 Jul 2022 #30
So to avoid "looking like an asshole" you would rather be a loser. Don't even buy your premise. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #24
At the least the guy was being altruistic. That guy saved other customers from being ripped off. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #25
Being an asshole is about how one presents oneself, not about facts or reality of mathematics Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #28
I delivered pizza while in college. Bunch of kids and a lady mgr. She ran the joint for several mobeau69 Jul 2022 #10
+10.3333.... nt reACTIONary Jul 2022 #14
Stupid people aren't happy when laws or reality contradict their bubble. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #27
The math depends on the yeast. The Jungle 1 Jul 2022 #19
"I'll give you 10 pizzas, just stop making my brain hurt!" n/t thesquanderer Jul 2022 #20
While we are being circularly nerdy. Pobeka Jul 2022 #21
Had to look that one up, but you are correct Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #29
You are on the right track. Pobeka Jul 2022 #32
sounds like a great math problem for class sindri Jul 2022 #22
+1. I would definitely have appreciated an example like this in math class. nt sl8 Jul 2022 #33
Mathematics rules the sciences and therefore rules the universe. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #23
One of the most common comparisons one makes when buying is 12" pie vs 16" Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #31
Reminds me of Yogi Berra being asked if he wanted his pizza cut into 6 pieces or 8 pieces Martin Eden Jul 2022 #34
I used to wait tables Polybius Jul 2022 #36
This thread is a perfect example of why bluecollar2 Jul 2022 #37
 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
8. So I should be buying
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:02 AM
Jul 2022

Apple Pizzas instead of Apple Pies! English the language that exists outside of reality,

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
26. In English language, it is not uncommon to say "pizza pie" like Sinatra. Most "pies" are round.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:05 AM
Jul 2022

Reference the song "Amore".

Further, in English we say "Pies are ..." because the noun and the verb must agree as to plurality.

In English we write "Pizzas are round", not "Pizza sre round" (double mistake).

sl8

(13,767 posts)
4. Incidentally, I can no longer read or hear "I think not" without thinking of the old Descartes joke
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 06:50 AM
Jul 2022

It's like an earworm.

Rene Descartes is having dinner alone at a restaurant...
...when he finishes his meal, the waiter approaches and says "and will monsieur be having dessert?"

"I think not" Descartes replies.

Poof! He disappears.


Descartes coined the phrase "cogito, ergo sum" (Latin: “I think, therefore I am).

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
7. Reminds me of Monty Python's "Bruces' Philosophers Song"
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:00 AM
Jul 2022

Last edited Fri Jul 1, 2022, 02:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table
David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya 'bout the raising of the wrist
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, on half a pint of shandy was particularly ill
Plato, they say, could stick it away, half a crate of whiskey every day
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle, Hobbes was fond of his dram
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am."

Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed...
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed

sl8

(13,767 posts)
11. Outstanding! Thanks.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:05 AM
Jul 2022


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sl8

(13,767 posts)
9. I'm not following.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:02 AM
Jul 2022

He identified the pizzas by their diameters (5" and 9" ), but used the radii (2.5" and 4.5" ) to calculate their areas.

What's the issue?

Rabrrrrrr

(58,349 posts)
16. What?
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:36 AM
Jul 2022

a) do you have proof it didn't happen
b) what are you talking about with diameter/radius? The 9" pizza has a radius of 4.5", which works out to the 63.6 sq. inches the tweeter came up with. The 5" pizza has a 2.5" radius, which works out to the 19.7 sq. inches the tweeter came up with.

And it's weird you'd say that the math is correct while complaining it's wrong.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
18. that isn't being an a hole
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:07 AM
Jul 2022

He was being rather seriously ripped off. 50/81 is only a bit over 60%. If I paid for 10 gallons of gas and got only 6 I would be exceptionally unhappy.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
24. So to avoid "looking like an asshole" you would rather be a loser. Don't even buy your premise.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:00 AM
Jul 2022

Teaching somebody something important while getting proper value for money is NOT being an asshole.

Losing about half the pizza because of being worried about appearances is being a loser.

I do NOT buy your premise that they were "looking like an asshole".

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
28. Being an asshole is about how one presents oneself, not about facts or reality of mathematics
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:13 AM
Jul 2022

You can explain reality (mathematics) in a pleasant non-demeaning way and that is NOT being an asshole.

If you shout or use profanity or insult the person, THAT is being an asshole. None of that is part of the story and I'm sure the math guy did none of that.

mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
10. I delivered pizza while in college. Bunch of kids and a lady mgr. She ran the joint for several
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:02 AM
Jul 2022

years before I started. Anyway it didn’t take long to figure out that she was and had been shorting everyone on pay probably for her entire time as manager!

We would fill out our time card each day and give them to her at the end of the week. If you worke part of an hour (say 4 1/2) she would think 4 hours and 30 minutes and take the hourly at rate x 1.3. LOL. I had a hard time explaining to her that 30 minutes is .5 hours. She wasn’t happy with me!

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
21. While we are being circularly nerdy.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:49 AM
Jul 2022

When you look at a section of a tree trunk, and examine its rings, the width of the rings generally becomes smaller and smaller as you move from the pith to the bark.

And the naive assumption is the tree is is slowing down in growth. But the mathematical reality (for a while) is the tree is actually accumulating more area of wood in one of those narrow outer rings than a wider ring near the pith.

Even trees can't avoid math.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
29. Had to look that one up, but you are correct
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:20 AM
Jul 2022

... about ring width as a function of age.

But it is not as obvious as you might think, since older trees counteract the raw math effect by being bigger and having more leaf mass and root mass that are feeding more nutrients and producing more food that builds the wood.

However, the observations of tree ring widths confirm that there is indeed a trend to smaller rings as trees age.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
32. You are on the right track.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jul 2022

You can sort of think of it as a the ratio of leaf mass to the "sheath" of wood that will be laid down on the entire surface of the tree (from groundline to the tip).

The volume of this new annual sheath increases each year, hits a maximum, and then drops off. Physics gets in the way too -- water has to be pumped up via cellular processes from the root to the tree tip.

sindri

(37 posts)
22. sounds like a great math problem for class
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:52 AM
Jul 2022

I have math teacher friends and I will tell them this story for them to share with their kiddos

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
31. One of the most common comparisons one makes when buying is 12" pie vs 16"
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jul 2022

"just compare the square of the radii (or diameters, if that's easier)"

using radius:
6^2 = 36
8^2 = 64
36/64 = 56.25%

i.e. it's often worth a significant upcharge to go from 12" to 16".

most XL pies are 18"
9^2 = 81
64/81 = 79%

don't spend much more for an XL vs Large.

Martin Eden

(12,866 posts)
34. Reminds me of Yogi Berra being asked if he wanted his pizza cut into 6 pieces or 8 pieces
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:46 PM
Jul 2022

He said better make it 6, I'm not that hungry.

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