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Here's a map of the Louisiana Purchase. What happened up here? Did Canada ask nicely or something? (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2022 OP
Fifty four forty or fight comradebillyboy Sep 2022 #1
Yup TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #3
That's actually the 49th parallel... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #4
That little bit sticking up from the Lake of the Woods, the Northwest Angle, was a map error. Ocelot II Sep 2022 #8
Kind of like Point Roberts in WA, with no land path to the Continental US... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #9
IIRC, somewhere along the line, we traded it for Pacific Coast access ??? CincyDem Sep 2022 #2
I'm With You That an Amicable Settlement in the Pacific Northwest The Roux Comes First Sep 2022 #6
Not tundra, more like prairie land. Think grass and buffalo...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #10
Ok. Closest I got was Bozeman in May. CincyDem Sep 2022 #14
We paid for it! Cracklin Charlie Sep 2022 #5
Jefferson should have probably paid the extra $100 and had is surveyed! Gore1FL Sep 2022 #12
While 54 40 or fight was mainly the Oregon border the final settlement with the Historic NY Sep 2022 #7
54-40 is actually the northern border of British Columbia... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #11
Mexico has a right to take Texas back. nt doc03 Sep 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author malthaussen Sep 2022 #15
Very early planning for the Big 8 football conference. highplainsdem Sep 2022 #16

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
3. Yup
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 03:45 PM
Sep 2022

There was some disagreement between us and the British about where the border was. We eventually negotiated the Webster-Ashburton Treaty and the Oregon Treaty.

Wounded Bear

(58,717 posts)
4. That's actually the 49th parallel...
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 03:49 PM
Sep 2022


They kind of just drew that line west from the Minnesota region, excepting Lake of the Woods, of course.

Wounded Bear

(58,717 posts)
9. Kind of like Point Roberts in WA, with no land path to the Continental US...
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 04:04 PM
Sep 2022

But that wasn't an error per se. They just drew the border strait out into the Strait of Georgia.

CincyDem

(6,387 posts)
2. IIRC, somewhere along the line, we traded it for Pacific Coast access ???
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 03:43 PM
Sep 2022

Not sure how that worked but it included England and Spain in the deal making that defined the 49th parallel as the northern US border. Personally, I'm much happier having a piece of the coast vs. more tundra in the middle of the country.

The Roux Comes First

(1,300 posts)
6. I'm With You That an Amicable Settlement in the Pacific Northwest
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 03:51 PM
Sep 2022

Presumably round about the time of the "Pig War" in the San Juans, was likely preferable to keeping that stretch north of Montana. But it is a serious misnomer to call it a bunch of tundra. At the very least it likely includes what is now the Canadian counterpart of our Glacier Park, Waterton Lakes, and some fabulously scenic territory. Your tundra is a wee bit further north.

CincyDem

(6,387 posts)
14. Ok. Closest I got was Bozeman in May.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 06:41 PM
Sep 2022

And it was snowing like crazy. My spring travel wardrobe was seriously underpowered.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
7. While 54 40 or fight was mainly the Oregon border the final settlement with the
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 03:52 PM
Sep 2022

British gave Washington - Oregon - Idaho to the United States along the 49th Parallel in Aug 1846 .

Pres. Polk campaigned, whipping up war over the border all the way up the coast. The British prepared to do battle.

Wounded Bear

(58,717 posts)
11. 54-40 is actually the northern border of British Columbia...
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 04:08 PM
Sep 2022

We had a joint occupation agreement with what is basically WA-OR-ID-BC for a while with England and Spain. Spain never really put any major effort into the region. The Americans and British, however, wrangled over the fur trade for a couple of decades, and the lumber, of course. Some of those tall firs make pretty good masts for the Navies.

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