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This is personal, so I won't put it in GD...I HATE MY FUCKING STATE!!! (Original Post) Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 OP
From your title, I thought you were a fellow Ohioian. CincyDem Nov 2022 #1
Or Floridian. Meadowoak Nov 2022 #2
Or North Carolinian dweller Nov 2022 #6
or an Iowan rurallib Nov 2022 #27
That's what I thought Ohio nt doc03 Nov 2022 #8
Right there with you doc. blueinredohio Nov 2022 #15
or Georgian. Brainstormy Nov 2022 #18
Feel the same about FL--grew up here, family here, but hate what it's become. Timeflyer Nov 2022 #3
my wife just retired blueknight73 Nov 2022 #11
Me too! lark Nov 2022 #21
I left Texas 4 years ago. griffi94 Nov 2022 #4
Me too tazkcmo Nov 2022 #12
My home state for 5 decades. I may make it back when I retire CentralMass Nov 2022 #14
We're in the Pioneer Valley griffi94 Nov 2022 #20
my dtr and family just relocated there from Seattle..got the kids registered to vote there samnsara Nov 2022 #5
I feel the same about TN. piddyprints Nov 2022 #7
Have close family snowybirdie Nov 2022 #9
Kay Ivey would never have been elected/reelected Governor elsewhere, nor probably in AL had it not hlthe2b Nov 2022 #10
So very sad to see so many that feel the same way. I hate what America has become... Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #13
Oklahoma bows to no state in scumbucketry... Onlyserious Nov 2022 #16
Yes. Similar here in Texas catrose Nov 2022 #17
My residence has been a progressive slide into Hell... malthaussen Nov 2022 #19
I've lived in several different states, both red and blue. I wish they were all blue highplainsdem Nov 2022 #22
Btw, Republicans would love nothing more than to have Democrats move to the states that highplainsdem Nov 2022 #23
I agree. Same in FL. I live in a county that is 70% Rep / 30%Dem. Fla Dem Nov 2022 #24
I don't see him having nationwide appeal. Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #28
Recovering Alabamian here liberaltrucker Nov 2022 #25
"They" say all politics is local. In our county election (Mobile) only ONE Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #26

blueknight73

(295 posts)
11. my wife just retired
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 10:04 AM
Nov 2022

I have been waiting for this for years. I can't wait to get out of Florida. I doubt I will ever spend another penny or another minute in this fucked up place.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
20. We're in the Pioneer Valley
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 10:48 AM
Nov 2022

I'm not in love with it getting dark at 4pm. but everything else here is much better than Texas.

samnsara

(17,650 posts)
5. my dtr and family just relocated there from Seattle..got the kids registered to vote there
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 09:53 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Wed Nov 9, 2022, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

....going from an all mail in to having to actually get up get dressed and drive to polling place was more for them then they could handle

piddyprints

(14,649 posts)
7. I feel the same about TN.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 09:57 AM
Nov 2022

We had a chance to elect a decent man as governor, but, no, we have to keep that MAGAT Lee.

snowybirdie

(5,241 posts)
9. Have close family
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 09:58 AM
Nov 2022

who recently moved there. They've bought the grift. However, their beautiful children were invitro conceived, and they want another child. Guess its not going to happen now.

hlthe2b

(102,419 posts)
10. Kay Ivey would never have been elected/reelected Governor elsewhere, nor probably in AL had it not
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 10:00 AM
Nov 2022

been 'fortuitous' sexual escapades/corruption of her predecessor. And the official Senatorial "dunce," Tommy Tuberville--JHC.

I feel your pain. But, as bad as it may be politically, there is always Mississippi.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
13. So very sad to see so many that feel the same way. I hate what America has become...
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 10:15 AM
Nov 2022

or at least large swaths of it. Areas filled with hate, greed, racism, homophobia and misogyny.

Onlyserious

(103 posts)
16. Oklahoma bows to no state in scumbucketry...
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 10:44 AM
Nov 2022

Next stop...loyalty oaths for teachers, more looting of the treasury, and more inside trading from the congressional delegation...

malthaussen

(17,217 posts)
19. My residence has been a progressive slide into Hell...
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 10:47 AM
Nov 2022

First Pennsylvania, then Kentucky, and now Florida. Can Texas be far behind?

-- Mal

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
22. I've lived in several different states, both red and blue. I wish they were all blue
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:44 AM
Nov 2022

states, that the red ones would turn blue.

But I also have a lot of family members who are Republicans. And my neighborhood is a mix of liberal and conservative.

I don't understand my Republican relatives' and neighbors' politics, but I don't hate them, because they're basically good people, with a lot of good qualities. Generous, caring people, for the most part, who still filter their political views through what they hear from their churches (whether Catholic or evangelical Protestant) or the disinformation they've fallen for, from RW media and social media.

I also have a few liberal relatives who'd never vote Republican but have fallen for antivaxxer nonsense. And I can't even say they're all stupid (two have tested at genius level, but testing at genius level doesn't make you invulnerable to disinformation).

All we can do is keep trying to educate people, to open their eyes.

Btw, you didn't mention family. That's often a factor, too, in where you live, even if you've once lived far away. A couple of my relatives forgot about plans they'd once had to move from the Midwest to the Gulf Coast of Florida, after their grown kids started giving them grandkids they decided they wanted to watch grow up.

If you can't stand where you're living, and if you think you can guarantee you'll like wherever you move to, you should move. But you're going to run into pockets of RWers in the bluest states, and vice versa.

If you ever hear of an ideal place for Democrats to live - liberal, affordable (the most liberal areas of NY, California, and the Pacific Northwest usually aren't), and where you're not likely to ever discover your next-door neighbor is a RWer - please let us know.

Any place you live is likely to be a mixed bag, especially politically.

Decades ago I lived in NYC. Manhattan, both East Side and West Side. NYC was liberal and open-minded compared to most of the Midwest, but I still met a lot of New Yorkers who were conservative. (I also discovered New Yorkers were often as ignorant about the Midwest as Midwesterers can sometimes be about NY, which I found amusing.) I loved the city's diversity, and the nightlife. But all the damn concrete and skyscrapers made me feel claustrophobic.

Someone in Music Appreciation posted a thread the other day on Glenn Frey's birthday, and it reminded me of one of my favorite songs and videos:



That reminds me so much of NYC nightlife, being out at night there, that it makes me feel homesick for NYC, And I used to live just a few blocks from the park on the East River that you see at the end of the video. I loved that park, too. But before the shot of Glenn Frey in Carl Schurz Park, you get a long look at one of those NYC canyon-streets that eventually gave me so much claustrophobia I had to get out.

I don't know of any perfect places to live. If I could afford multiple homes, I'd probably have them in widely distant locations. But I don't know how I could guarantee I'd never have RWers anywhere near me, or the location would never become more conservative politically.

You're much more likely to find political safe spaces online. Which is why websites like this one are so important.

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
23. Btw, Republicans would love nothing more than to have Democrats move to the states that
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:55 AM
Nov 2022

are reliably blue, rather than swing states or red states, since that would pretty much guarantee Republican control of the Senate, at least.

Fla Dem

(23,785 posts)
24. I agree. Same in FL. I live in a county that is 70% Rep / 30%Dem.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:26 PM
Nov 2022

So every 7 out of 10 people I interact with are Rethugs,

Plus we have the DiSantis.

If he is the Rebublican presidential candidate in 2024, we're in trouble.

He is more sinister, calculating, evil, nastier, devious than Trump, plus he is a whole lot smarter.

Elessar Zappa

(14,087 posts)
28. I don't see him having nationwide appeal.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 05:01 PM
Nov 2022

He’s not as charismatic (yuck) as Trump. I don’t think he’d win the swing states. That’s not to say we shouldn’t take him seriously, of course, but at this point I’m not worried about him.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
26. "They" say all politics is local. In our county election (Mobile) only ONE
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 03:55 PM
Nov 2022

contested race was won by a Democrat and she was a 20 year incumbent. So many Democratic candidates here worked their asses off to win and were humiliated by a uninformed and ignorant populace.

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