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UTUSN

(70,778 posts)
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 02:07 PM Dec 2022

The oligarch Space-niks didn't expect SHATNER's take

Last edited Mon Dec 26, 2022, 05:46 PM - Edit history (1)

What used to be quaintly called "jet-setters" are now known to be Oligarchs with battleship-sized (or should it be "carrier-sized", as in Doctor Evil's "millions - no, billions"?) yachts. And the Oligarchs have left the Greek isles behind in favor of Space, Mars, and such. Plus, they collect human knickknacks to adorn their vessels - a SHATNER here, a STRAHAN there. No run-of-the-mill Nobody to be worthy of their expeditions - *luster* of celebrity is needed for Page Six.

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https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/william-shatner-space-boldly-go-excerpt-1235395113/

William Shatner: My Trip to Space Filled Me With ‘Overwhelming Sadness’

.... I continued my self-guided tour and turned my head to face the other direction, to stare into space. I love the mystery of the universe. I love all the questions that have come to us over thousands of years of exploration and hypotheses. Stars exploding years ago, their light traveling to us years later; black holes absorbing energy; satellites showing us entire galaxies in areas thought to be devoid of matter entirely… all of that has thrilled me for years… but when I looked in the opposite direction, into space, there was no mystery, no majestic awe to behold . . . all I saw was death.

I saw a cold, dark, black emptiness. It was unlike any blackness you can see or feel on Earth. It was deep, enveloping, all-encompassing. I turned back toward the light of home. I could see the curvature of Earth, the beige of the desert, the white of the clouds and the blue of the sky. It was life. Nurturing, sustaining, life. Mother Earth. Gaia. And I was leaving her. ....

It was among the strongest feelings of grief I have ever encountered. The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness. Every day, we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of Earth at our hands: the extinction of animal species, of flora and fauna . . . things that took five billion years to evolve, and suddenly we will never see them again because of the interference of mankind. It filled me with dread. My trip to space was supposed to be a celebration; instead, it felt like a funeral.

I learned later that I was not alone in this feeling. It is called the “Overview Effect” and is not uncommon among astronauts, including Yuri Gagarin, Michael Collins, Sally Ride, and many others. Essentially, when someone travels to space and views Earth from orbit, a sense of the planet’s fragility takes hold in an ineffable, instinctive manner. Author Frank White first coined the term in 1987: “There are no borders or boundaries on our planet except those that we create in our minds or through human behaviors. All the ideas and concepts that divide us when we are on the surface begin to fade from orbit and the moon. The result is a shift in worldview, and in identity.” ....

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The oligarch Space-niks didn't expect SHATNER's take (Original Post) UTUSN Dec 2022 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2022 #1
A pleasantly surprised you're-welcome! - I was expecting Disapproval/Contempt (from others). UTUSN Dec 2022 #2
Sounds like when the Enterprise was confronted by a dark void GreenWave Dec 2022 #3
TNG S2E2 Where Silence Has Lease Volaris Dec 2022 #15
Excellent supersleuthing, although I did have the wrong series. GreenWave Dec 2022 #20
I just received this book as a gift. I cannot wait to read it. I wish more people thought like him kysrsoze Dec 2022 #4
Former NASA astronaut Ron Garan has a similar perspective. LastDemocratInSC Dec 2022 #5
can we PLEASE save this planet and it's wonderful ecosystems? LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #6
Sorry, but on this flight the louder, coarser voices will always prevail. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #9
Oops, my bad LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #21
I can imagine it's a very humbling experience. patphil Dec 2022 #7
This is very moving. Shatner has unexpected depth. Hekate Dec 2022 #8
I'm not at all surprised. And I'm gratified. calimary Dec 2022 #10
correct me if im wrong please , but neal armstrong never never talked about his moon experiance. AllaN01Bear Dec 2022 #11
Shatner is a human's human. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #12
I've always wondered about Michael Collins 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2022 #13
Abraham Lincoln said it best, hundreds of years ago: DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #14
Shatner talked about that a few weeks ago FoxNewsSucks Dec 2022 #16
I'm with you Bill dai13sy Dec 2022 #17
Here's the video of Shatner's Morning Joe appearance. It was one of the best MJ has done FoxNewsSucks Dec 2022 #18
I had a different -- and uncharitable -- take on this when I saw it first time... CTyankee Dec 2022 #19

UTUSN

(70,778 posts)
2. A pleasantly surprised you're-welcome! - I was expecting Disapproval/Contempt (from others).
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 02:15 PM
Dec 2022

Those might still be magnetically attracted.






GreenWave

(6,796 posts)
3. Sounds like when the Enterprise was confronted by a dark void
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 02:22 PM
Dec 2022

That toyed with them like a cat and even had a cat-like face. I could not find it. Rats!

jaxexpat

(6,865 posts)
9. Sorry, but on this flight the louder, coarser voices will always prevail.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:45 PM
Dec 2022

You didn't read the travelogue? The brochure plainly stated the "meek" don't get shit except shit on this trip.? Ticket's non-refundable, too. Better luck next time.

patphil

(6,238 posts)
7. I can imagine it's a very humbling experience.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:39 PM
Dec 2022

He got to take off the blinders for a short while.
Only a few of us get that view...the "big blue marble" view.
Spaceship Earth is all we got folks. When it's gone, so are we.

Hekate

(90,962 posts)
8. This is very moving. Shatner has unexpected depth.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:41 PM
Dec 2022

I didn’t know grief was a common reaction — I really didn’t.

calimary

(81,562 posts)
10. I'm not at all surprised. And I'm gratified.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:09 PM
Dec 2022

We SHOULD love and cherish and work relentlessly to protect this precious, delicate little orb that’s the only home and haven we have in that impossibly vast darkness.

Let us NEVER become so arrogant, so full of ourselves, that we allow ourselves to forget that. If I’m allowed only one prayer, this would be it.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
13. I've always wondered about Michael Collins
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:36 PM
Dec 2022

I'm a big Tull fan and and I finally looked up who the song "For Michael Collins, Jeffrey and Me" was all about. That's when I put it together and learned about the loneliest man in history. I was 7 when the moon landing happened and it was all about Neil and Buzz. Who is Michael Collins?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/04/28/the-loneliest-man-in-history-dies-astronaut-michael-collins-was-the-sole-man-on-apollo-11-who-didnt-walk-on-the-moon/?sh=2fb5d4bb3efe

Can you imagine being the loneliest person in history?

DENVERPOPS

(8,883 posts)
14. Abraham Lincoln said it best, hundreds of years ago:
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:43 PM
Dec 2022

"A statesman is interested in future generations, a politician only in the next election"

dai13sy

(344 posts)
17. I'm with you Bill
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 05:31 PM
Dec 2022

While wonderful to look at I don't want to live there ever. I will make my final stand on my Home where there is warmth and light and where my people live

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
19. I had a different -- and uncharitable -- take on this when I saw it first time...
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 10:34 PM
Dec 2022

I was annoyed that this guy with all the money he made was able to shoot his white ass into space and then go on morning TV to go all humble about it.

Sorry, I just can't....

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