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Lehto's Law: Netflix Cracking Down HARD on Password Sharing (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 OP
It's theft of services MichMan Dec 2022 #1
Interestingly, Netflix tweeted in 2017 "Love is sharing a password." chia Dec 2022 #2
This isn't 2017. MichMan Dec 2022 #3
It's not "getting away with it" when Netflix condoned and encouraged it. chia Dec 2022 #4
And now they decided that anyone who does it may face criminal charges MichMan Dec 2022 #5
Not only has netflix condoned and supported it, but they continue to allow people to have multiple ColinC Dec 2022 #6
Multiple profiles remain useful for multiple people in the same household. nt sl8 Dec 2022 #11
Are household members expected to start a new account every time they travel? ColinC Dec 2022 #13
I wouldn't think so, no. sl8 Dec 2022 #14
The issue is that password sharing is theft of services ColinC Dec 2022 #16
Could an entire college dorm claim to be a household? MichMan Dec 2022 #17
The term "household" and the intentional allowance of multiple users ColinC Dec 2022 #18
If I have more than one Netflix tab open, Netflix shuts it down. LeftInTX Dec 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Dec 2022 #12
You're allowed if it's immediate family ... for sure if you're in the same household Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #22
They allow and continue to allow multiple uses on a limited number of platforms. ColinC Dec 2022 #25
I believe it wasn't theft until they decided to stop promoting password sharing. chia Dec 2022 #19
I think you misinterpret the meaning of this sentiment Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #21
Honestly I think this whole "criminal charges for password sharing" ColinC Dec 2022 #23
But that's when I shared my password. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2022 #8
Do family members have to get separate accounts now? Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #7
Netflix still allows multiple profiles on the same account ColinC Dec 2022 #9
Not if they're in the same household. nt sl8 Dec 2022 #10
Thank you. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #15
Netflix restricts the number of simultaneous streaming devices - from 1 to 4 depending on the plan. OilemFirchen Dec 2022 #20
This. ColinC Dec 2022 #24

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
3. This isn't 2017.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:42 PM
Dec 2022

Policies can change. People should feel fortunate they got away with it as long as they did.

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
5. And now they decided that anyone who does it may face criminal charges
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:05 PM
Dec 2022

It isn't relevant if they once allowed it. Policies can be changed.

I seriously doubt people have a written contract stating they can share passwords for an indefinite amount of time.

Do you believe that Netflix has no legal standing to stop it as a theft of services?

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
6. Not only has netflix condoned and supported it, but they continue to allow people to have multiple
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:16 PM
Dec 2022

profiles on the same account for multiple people. Perhaps they should eliminate that policy before alleging account sharing is theft?

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
13. Are household members expected to start a new account every time they travel?
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:01 PM
Dec 2022

Despite their profile and preferences being secure on that same account? That isn’t reasonable.

sl8

(13,787 posts)
14. I wouldn't think so, no.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:05 PM
Dec 2022

No more than I would, when I travel. Have you seen something that indicates people travelling can't access their account?

If you move out permanently, then you'd no longer be a household member.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
16. The issue is that password sharing is theft of services
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:09 PM
Dec 2022

The malleability of the term “household member” is also at question. If somebody stays a residence once a month with a permanent room, are they still a household member? If they are gone for 6 months or on TDY or deployment for a year are they still household members? How about if they go away for school? I imagine many of these cases to be the subject of charges given that Netflix is suggesting a zero tolerance policy on password sharing.

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
17. Could an entire college dorm claim to be a household?
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:16 PM
Dec 2022

What about a frat house or sorority ? Technically they are all under one roof



Why do I feel like too many people think Netflix is being unreasonable ?

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
18. The term "household" and the intentional allowance of multiple users
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:18 PM
Dec 2022

Etc is going to make successful convictions quite difficult. And related lawsuits dysfunctionally expensive.

LeftInTX

(25,375 posts)
26. If I have more than one Netflix tab open, Netflix shuts it down.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 07:57 PM
Dec 2022

I can't watch Netflix on my computer and TV at the same time.

Response to ColinC (Reply #6)

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. You're allowed if it's immediate family ... for sure if you're in the same household
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 06:00 PM
Dec 2022

Mom and Dad have their profiles, the kids have theirs, etc. Viewing prefs may be very different, you see?

IOW, there's reasons for multiple profiles on one account that are legit/within their policies.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
25. They allow and continue to allow multiple uses on a limited number of platforms.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 07:39 PM
Dec 2022

They might even start charging for multiple platforms -which they started to do in Brazil. It’s doubtful there will be much more that comes out of the Netflix password news besides that.

chia

(2,244 posts)
19. I believe it wasn't theft until they decided to stop promoting password sharing.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:11 PM
Dec 2022

I'll roll with their policy change, but certainly will not agree with you that it's always been theft, precisely because Netflix didn't see it as theft themselves, until they did.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
21. I think you misinterpret the meaning of this sentiment
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:51 PM
Dec 2022

There's nothing untoward about, say, a husband and wife sharing a password to the same bank account, is there? Doing so ... connotes a certain level of trust don't you think? It's kinda romantic, you know, like love?

And that's not against the rules of the bank.

Sharing your Netflix password ... comes with rules.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
23. Honestly I think this whole "criminal charges for password sharing"
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 07:33 PM
Dec 2022

Is being blown out of proportion. Netflix has always allowed password sharing and continues to do so since they allow a certain amount of platforms for the password to be shared on, and are going to be charging for the extra platforms later. I think the criminal charges thing would come if those rules are somehow being skirted. Which is kinda to your point, I suppose.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
9. Netflix still allows multiple profiles on the same account
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:51 PM
Dec 2022

But are apparently going to prosecute people for using them.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
20. Netflix restricts the number of simultaneous streaming devices - from 1 to 4 depending on the plan.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:33 PM
Dec 2022

I think it's doubtful Netflix will find any evil password-sharing cabals running amok.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
24. This.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 07:35 PM
Dec 2022

The whole “criminal charges” thing is blowing everything out of proportion and is quite ridiculous. There will be no criminal charges for password sharing, unless people were somehow able to skirt the rules entirely and hide the fact they are using more than the allowed/ paid for number of platforms

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