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Baitball Blogger

(47,452 posts)
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 01:10 PM Feb 2023

Who is familiar with Cable Locater Services? Something odd to report.

For those who don't know, if you plan to do digging in your yard, you call in a locater service to find the power cables that might run through your yard, to avoid getting electrocuted. Fine service, but I witnessed something odd and wondered if this particular employee went beyond what normally happens when they come on property.

1) I didn't order the service. My neighbor did.

2) The USIC guy did come and ring our doorbell early in the a.m. to let us know he was there. "Your neighbor plans to have work done in his yard, I don't know what it is, maybe remove a tree."

3) He spray painted the lines in the sideyard between our houses, coming up to the first structure of our home.

4) Now the odd thing. Our cameras picked up that he walked to a box attached to the side of our house, used some kind of sensor, probably trying to determine if it was electrical, followed by a screwdriver, and finally a wrench. He went to that area at least five times. After the first time, he made a beeline to my neighbor who was supervising from a distance from his front yard. The security camera captured the physical interaction. The boxes attached to my house were definitely the subject of conversation because the guy kept pointing to our house.

5) My hubby checked the area and found two boxes where the guy was working. One was the old phone analog box that we no longer use. He found two washers on top of that box. So, I surmise that the guy didn't put it all back together again. The other box is an electrical box that goes to an atrium. And that's it.

My question, is this level of snooping normal? Don't these locater services just mark the lines between the houses without further intrusion? It just seems odd that he would go to report what he found to my neighbor, unless my neighbor specifically asked him for info.

And, no, nothing good will come from starting a discourse with the neighbor. So please don't bring it up.

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Who is familiar with Cable Locater Services? Something odd to report. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 OP
Sometimes cables, etc. cross yards. ... probably checking to see if your supply cables, etc. RKP5637 Feb 2023 #1
Well, they don't. Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #3
Interesting. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2023 #4
We've had to do this several times Bayard Feb 2023 #2
I was planning to send a clip to the power company AND the locater service. Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #5
On the old analog telephone line, he just attached a device Meadowoak Feb 2023 #6
Thank you! Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #8
One was the old phone analog box that we no longer use. Locrian Feb 2023 #7
Based on the spray painted lines, there is nothing reaching out from one house to the other. Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #9
You have become a victim of the Deep State Sneederbunk Feb 2023 #10
On the contrary. Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #11
No matter what he is not supposed to come on your property drray23 Feb 2023 #12
It is a dead line, the only way to be sure it doesn't run through Meadowoak Feb 2023 #13
Why can't he find an underground cable without this step? Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #14
Any energized lines will be detected by his locating equipment, Meadowoak Feb 2023 #15
I'm still going to pass the info on to the proper parties. Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #16
Say in 6 months from now, you wanted to put a land line back Meadowoak Feb 2023 #17
Being familiar with the subject Nac Mac Feegle Feb 2023 #18
diggers hotline is a wonderful thing as it is called around here dembotoz Feb 2023 #19

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. Sometimes cables, etc. cross yards. ... probably checking to see if your supply cables, etc.
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 01:13 PM
Feb 2023

run through your neighbors yard. I've used cable locating services many times for residential and commercial property. In my area one of the main fiber cables for the community runs across my front yard. Other neighbors have similar ... Another place I lived the main power lines for the community ran under my side yard under very thick concrete.

Bayard

(23,489 posts)
2. We've had to do this several times
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 01:17 PM
Feb 2023

When putting up fencing, or digging the pond.

There's no reason he needs to come on your property at all, unless they are marking the entire line for new construction or road work. Doesn't sound like that's the case here. I think I'd call the power company and ask them, especially with him messing around your house.

Baitball Blogger

(47,452 posts)
5. I was planning to send a clip to the power company AND the locater service.
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 01:20 PM
Feb 2023

They can identify the serviceman that way.

Also, the water meter guy told us months ago that our water meter stopped working. It was old, anyways, so we were not surprised. I thought they replaced it. I just want to make sure that nothing improper occurred with this onsite visit.

Meadowoak

(5,940 posts)
6. On the old analog telephone line, he just attached a device
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 01:29 PM
Feb 2023

That sends a signal through that line, so he can detect if it comes through the neighbor's yard. Since it's a dead line, he wouldn't be able to detect it otherwise. I wouldn't be too concerned.

Locrian

(4,523 posts)
7. One was the old phone analog box that we no longer use.
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 01:30 PM
Feb 2023

Probably there's a line cutting across his yard to your old analog telephone line - that may be where he wants to dig or?
He (the tech) may have been trying to figure out if its still live or whether its just "there" taking a dirt nap.

Baitball Blogger

(47,452 posts)
11. On the contrary.
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 02:12 PM
Feb 2023

I think this might be a case of drive-by good ole boying.

Just because the service people work for large companies, private or governmental, doesn't mean the company is aware of all the good buddying that goes on with their workers.

drray23

(7,788 posts)
12. No matter what he is not supposed to come on your property
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 02:24 PM
Feb 2023

He was trespassing. There is no reason for him to check anything on your property. Their job is to map out the underground cables where work is going to be done, in this case, on your neighbor's property.

Meadowoak

(5,940 posts)
13. It is a dead line, the only way to be sure it doesn't run through
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 03:05 PM
Feb 2023

The neighbor's yard, is to open the service box, and put a signal generator on it. If it does indeed run through the neighbor's yard, he would mark the area (in the neighbor's yard) where the underground cable is.

Baitball Blogger

(47,452 posts)
14. Why can't he find an underground cable without this step?
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 03:15 PM
Feb 2023

Because, it sure does sound like he's checking out the boxes on the wall on my house to try to track them.

Meadowoak

(5,940 posts)
15. Any energized lines will be detected by his locating equipment,
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 03:29 PM
Feb 2023

Since yours isn't energized, he needed to attach a signal generator to be able to find it.

Meadowoak

(5,940 posts)
17. Say in 6 months from now, you wanted to put a land line back
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 03:54 PM
Feb 2023

In your house, only to find out that your line had been cut in the neighbor's yard while they were doing construction. Guess who is responsible for that line repair and landscaping damage? The locating company. I wouldn't suspect anything nefarious, otherwise the worker wouldn't have came and told you he would be also in your yard.

Nac Mac Feegle

(976 posts)
18. Being familiar with the subject
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:32 PM
Feb 2023

A part of installing the lines, either power, cable TV, or telephone, is to tie their ground conductors all together electrically, in case of a lightning strike. To locate each of them individually, the grounds have to be separated, as the locator signal is attached to the ground conductor. Without isolating them, you will not be able to get an accurate location of each line.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
19. diggers hotline is a wonderful thing as it is called around here
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 06:10 PM
Feb 2023

folks have put cables and pipes where i would not have expected.

I am not one to dig up the yard but i did remember to avoid a patch of the garden when it was time to bury a family cat.

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