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highplainsdem

(59,753 posts)
Sun Feb 5, 2023, 11:46 PM Feb 2023

There's a Twitter war right now between ignorant younger people upset that Bonnie Raitt

won the Grammy for Song of the Year, and older people (and smart young people) telling them they need to learn who she is.

I'm seeing so many tweets from young people crying that they'd never heard of Bonnie Raitt, and saying the award was "stolen" from Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Lizzo, Harry Styles, Adele, etc.

Bonnie's won 10 Grammy Awards and was given the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award just last year.

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There's a Twitter war right now between ignorant younger people upset that Bonnie Raitt (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2023 OP
hopefully they will listen...and learn.... bahboo Feb 2023 #1
We might be old but they are just jealous that we had the best music, best cars and best hair..nt mitch96 Feb 2023 #28
Eh... Their loss. Good music defies time. LakeArenal Feb 2023 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Anon-C Feb 2023 #3
Well she gave them something to talk about. Demobrat Feb 2023 #4
Good one lol judesedit Feb 2023 #10
I didn't know her or her music in 1992 when she performed "Something To Talk About" at..... MMBeilis Feb 2023 #5
She Is One Of... ProfessorGAC Feb 2023 #34
An ex-DUer that got tombstoned (twice) has played with her (he's a slide player too). panader0 Feb 2023 #36
Bonnie Raitt is a giant by comparison. calimary Feb 2023 #6
I rarely watch this show or any award shows. Mr.Bill Feb 2023 #7
Which "really" was the worst to you? jmowreader Feb 2023 #15
That's a tough choice. Mr.Bill Feb 2023 #30
I want to know why there aren't more foreign/international artist ... aggiesal Feb 2023 #8
It is the American Academy of music that gives out these award's ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #12
I take comfort moniss Feb 2023 #9
It's a heartache ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #11
that's Bonnie Tyler waddirum Feb 2023 #14
That'll give you something to talk about ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #16
There is a genre of YouTube vids called "First time reactions"... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2023 #13
Tom Scholz was the guy who founded Boston jmowreader Feb 2023 #18
Click on the 4 asterisks at the bottom of my post. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2023 #20
How's about Jerff "Skunk" Baxter? Remember him? panader0 Feb 2023 #37
Absolutely! Saw him live with The Doobie Brothers in Miami way back when. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2023 #39
I thought of Baxter because it was mentioned above that Tom Scholtz went to MIT. panader0 Feb 2023 #40
I had heard he was doing that kind of work but never read any more about it. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2023 #41
Do those kids realize that Beyonce broke the record, SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2023 #17
:hi: Tom Yossarian Joad Feb 2023 #19
Love love love Melanie and Lay Down Ilsa Feb 2023 #26
Just heard "Beautiful People" recently crud Feb 2023 #31
I see or hear her name and hear this... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2023 #21
I always hear her cover... CrabbyAppleton Feb 2023 #23
I first saw Bonnie 49 years ago... CrabbyAppleton Feb 2023 #22
Figures... I suppose they did NOT go equally nutso when Willie Nelson beat out all the younger hlthe2b Feb 2023 #24
I always get bored about halfway through. murielm99 Feb 2023 #25
Love Bonnie Raitt! Ilsa Feb 2023 #27
Geez, Lizzo got Album of the year TexasBushwhacker Feb 2023 #29
Styles got album of the year. Lizzo got record of the year. nt LexVegas Feb 2023 #32
I'm just happy I recognized the name of anyone nominated. LOL. Vinca Feb 2023 #33
It's not just random tweeters Mosby Feb 2023 #35
I haven't watched the Grammys since this happened. Never will again. Different Drummer Feb 2023 #38
I know that quite a few younger artists GenThePerservering Feb 2023 #42

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
1. hopefully they will listen...and learn....
Sun Feb 5, 2023, 11:53 PM
Feb 2023

this old guy loves being exposed to all the current music...

mitch96

(15,621 posts)
28. We might be old but they are just jealous that we had the best music, best cars and best hair..nt
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 09:37 AM
Feb 2023

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
2. Eh... Their loss. Good music defies time.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 12:06 AM
Feb 2023

Bonnie is singing all the way to the bank.

She won the award. Beyoncé and Taylor know who she is.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

 

MMBeilis

(455 posts)
5. I didn't know her or her music in 1992 when she performed "Something To Talk About" at.....
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:13 AM
Feb 2023

.....the Grammys and I was just blown away. What a amazing talent. And that slide guitar! By that summer I had gone from "Bonnie who?" to seeing her in concert at the Blossom Music Center while visiting Ohio. Let's hope that these complaining young folk discover her music like I did 30 years ago.

ProfessorGAC

(75,769 posts)
34. She Is One Of...
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 04:14 PM
Feb 2023

...the finest slide players ever.
She has a light touch & she hits pitch. If she is a pinch flat or sharp, that's not an accident. It's to set up tension before she resolves to pitch.
She's a master at something It's easy to be OK, but hard to be great.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
36. An ex-DUer that got tombstoned (twice) has played with her (he's a slide player too).
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 08:54 PM
Feb 2023

The only Duer I've met in person.

calimary

(88,925 posts)
6. Bonnie Raitt is a giant by comparison.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:16 AM
Feb 2023

Just means the complainers aren’t very well educated in the length, breadth, depth, or heritage of the music world.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
7. I rarely watch this show or any award shows.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:23 AM
Feb 2023

I did watch a bit of it tonight. Harry Styles is being punked by his costume designer. I mean, really?

jmowreader

(52,877 posts)
15. Which "really" was the worst to you?
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:18 AM
Feb 2023

I saw pictures of three outfits.

His grandma is going to be pissed that he made overalls out of the quilt she won the 1958 County Fair with. “It was covered in Swarovski crystals!” Uhh…dude…they will sell those to you by the pound.

The suit he wore to accept his award wasn’t all that bad, if you skip over the part where the pants look like gym wear and the thing he was using as a shirt looked like a bustier.

And the sequin silver catsuit would have looked fantastic with six-inch heels, smokey eyes, Taylor Swift’s favorite lipstick, and long earrings.

Harry, my dear, if you’re going to the Grammys in drag, go big or go home.

aggiesal

(10,528 posts)
8. I want to know why there aren't more foreign/international artist ...
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:38 AM
Feb 2023

that make better music, nominated for a Grammy.
Grammy's are only for the best English music (American & British artists).
They have one category where artists from different nations compete against each other.

I boycott the Grammy's until this happens.
I didn't watch this year, so maybe they did, this year.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
12. It is the American Academy of music that gives out these award's
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:08 AM
Feb 2023

There are academies in each country that give out the same awards. In spite of being an American award ceremony, based on American record, sales and releases, many foreign and international artists get nominated like this year, Måneskin my favorite rock group from Italy, was in the best new artist category.

moniss

(8,642 posts)
9. I take comfort
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:50 AM
Feb 2023

in knowing that most of those would criticize BR also have no idea who any of these guys are.


A HERETIC I AM

(24,841 posts)
13. There is a genre of YouTube vids called "First time reactions"...
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:09 AM
Feb 2023

or First Time Hearing where young people document themselves listening to old classics like Steely Dan's "Black Cow" or "Hey Nineteen" or Fleetwood Mac's "The Chain" and they seem astounded that such good music was made before they were born!

Shit...I remember when "Aja" and then "Gaucho" dropped and within days, every rock station in town (I lived in Miami then) was playing any number of tunes off those records ( I mention those because they were the first albums from a group I really liked to be released right after I started driving, so I heard most of their hits on the car radio first). Ditto "Rumors" and ELO's "A New World Record" and scores more. And fucking Kanye West thinks he is a musical genius. That motherfucker couldn't share the stage with Jeff Beck or Walter Becker or Roger Rosenberg or any number of the hundreds of musicians we all listened to 40 years ago. And the dude that created Boston? He created their debut album in a studio he built in his fucking basement. Anyone know his name? ****

It's not as if no good music was made before 2000, young people! Us old farts had it pretty good back then!

Congratulations, Bonnie. You deserve every award you ever get.


****

jmowreader

(52,877 posts)
18. Tom Scholz was the guy who founded Boston
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:26 AM
Feb 2023

He holds Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees in mechanical engineering from MIT…which explains why he spent his entire career doing circuit design.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,841 posts)
20. Click on the 4 asterisks at the bottom of my post.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:33 AM
Feb 2023

I know who it was, but I do appreciate the fact that you know as well!


A HERETIC I AM

(24,841 posts)
39. Absolutely! Saw him live with The Doobie Brothers in Miami way back when.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 09:59 PM
Feb 2023

Last edited Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:03 PM - Edit history (1)

He played on a couple of Steely Dan's albums, as you're probably aware. (On edit to rephrase; He was a founding member of Steely Dan, playing on their first 3 albums.)

While most guitarists played standing up while on stage, Baxter often played while seated in a chair as his signature style.




I should say that I am by no means the kind of person that can rattle off band members names as if they're family, not by a long shot. The primary point I was trying to make in my post above, in response to the OP was, as I said, that there were plenty of great musicians putting out fantastic music long before the Taylor Swift's of the world were a gleam in their fathers eye!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
40. I thought of Baxter because it was mentioned above that Tom Scholtz went to MIT.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 10:19 PM
Feb 2023

Baxter was a defense counselor, another really smart guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Baxter

A HERETIC I AM

(24,841 posts)
41. I had heard he was doing that kind of work but never read any more about it.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:00 PM
Feb 2023

According to that Wiki link, having a helpful and influential next door neighbor can make a world of difference!

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,366 posts)
17. Do those kids realize that Beyonce broke the record,
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:23 AM
Feb 2023

which was held by classical conductor Georg Solti? Let them gnaw on that.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
21. I see or hear her name and hear this...
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:56 AM
Feb 2023

Canned --



And live --


Wish I had her on vinyl instead of CDs.
 

CrabbyAppleton

(44 posts)
23. I always hear her cover...
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 03:09 AM
Feb 2023

of John Prine's Angel From Montgomery, which leads me to John's In Spite of Ourselves with Iris Dement.

I'll stop there, I have to get up early and I need to find the proper thread to post about the Bloons TD gap we are needing to correct.

Crabby

 

CrabbyAppleton

(44 posts)
22. I first saw Bonnie 49 years ago...
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:58 AM
Feb 2023

at the Fox Theatre, Atlanta, opening for Little Feat with the band Orleans backing her up. Lowell George was a huge mentor/influence on her slide playing. You can still hear his influence on her playing.

Kudos to Bonnie.

Crabby


hlthe2b

(112,687 posts)
24. Figures... I suppose they did NOT go equally nutso when Willie Nelson beat out all the younger
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 06:35 AM
Feb 2023

country performers for the best country album and best solo performance earlier in the evening?

I know it makes me sound like today's version of a crotchety "Mr. Wilson," but it really IS true, that I knew the musical "stars" of my grandparents' (Big Band) and parents' generation (Sinatra, early rock, early country, late big band, and so forth) and actually took the time to learn and listen to some of them. I detest wanton ignorance and that seems to be de rigeur today.

Honestly, I got bored midway through the Grammys after the great Stevie Wonder performance, but at least I know who the performers are--even those I don't like-- and checked the winner list this morning. And though there are a bunch of overly hyped performers I don't like much, I have listened to at least some of their work and for some, even given them a reassessment a few years in.

I think I will have to seek out the youtube "first impression" series where the two youngest generations listen to that which they have never heard (usually 60's-2000 music) for a palate cleanser. They are always enjoyable to watch.

murielm99

(32,654 posts)
25. I always get bored about halfway through.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 06:56 AM
Feb 2023

All those people congratulating and thanking each other and most of them don't mean a word of it.

I often take a break halfway through and come back to see the last half of it later.

I know who the performers are, like you. I don't have to rush out and buy their music to appreciate them.

What I did not appreciate was the closing act. Why did DJ Khaled have to close the show? He is noisy and boring. I have no respect for him. Don't play yourself? He was doing that for us. He can go somewhere and play with himself. I don't think he had any respect for the audience, either.

Ilsa

(63,791 posts)
27. Love Bonnie Raitt!
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 08:18 AM
Feb 2023

I watched the first half of Lizzo's HBO special. She's an incredible talent. I love her messages about the strength of young women, but sometimes she gets a little too vulgar. She's a gifted artist all-around.

GenThePerservering

(3,146 posts)
42. I know that quite a few younger artists
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:37 PM
Feb 2023

actually are inspired and influenced by, and extremely knowledgeable about, older artists - too bad their fans aren't.

That Song about the Midway is my favourite Bonnie Raitt song.

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