Barbie blew my mind............

[Upthevibe]

OMG!

I'd heard good things and it exceeded my expecations many times over.

The message is simply amazing........I don't know what else to say......... (The crying is an epiphany, major feeling of depth cry)...........

[cilla4progress]

1. Would love to discuss!

I really enjoyed it, too. The message was slightly different (and better, actually...) than I expected.

The visuals and scenery and all were so fun, entertaining.

I loved it, too!

[Upthevibe]

6. cilla4progress.....

Obviously, it was visually phenomal! I just didn't expect the message to resonate on such a deep level with me.

I've just had so many ah ha moments since I saw this movie. I just wasn't expecting that....

[madaboutharry]

2. I loved it too!

I loved every minute of it. I can't wait until I can watch it on streaming so I can see it 20 more times.

I also cried.

[Upthevibe]

8. madaboutharry ......

100%! I also loved every minute of it......

I'll be going back to the theatre to watch it again because I want to see it on the big screen.

I've been listening to the Billie Eilish song off and on today and just crying.....I also may be in an unusual head space.....

[madaboutharry]

10. I bought "The Best Weekend Ever" version of the soundtrack.

[Upthevibe]

15. madaboutharry........

I now need to start checking out all of the music.

The producer is one of the best alive today, Mark Ronson. He also happens to be married to one of Meryl Streep's daughter.

[JenniferJuniper]

3. Saw it with my 16 and 17 year old nieces,

and they both totally got it.

[Upthevibe]

9. JenniferJuniper.........

I'm soooooooooo glad your nieces got it!

[50 Shades Of Blue]

4. I really loved some of it, but I didn't like some of it at all.

[Upthevibe]

5. 50 Shades Of Blue.....

I'm intrigued regarding what you didn't like.........

[50 Shades Of Blue]

7. I didn't like the emphasis on Ken and his needs...

I thought the movie was supposed to be about Barbie confronting the patriarchy in our world, but it ended up with Barbie doing the nurturing female thing and consoling Ken because she was able to live happily and independently from him in her own world of BarbieLand, where the Barbies weren't victims of patriarchy.

So I just didn't think the movie was what it was cracked up to be, I did think Margaret Robbie and America Ferrera were absolutely fantastic. But I could have absolutely done without so much of Ryan Gosling's Ken.

[cilla4progress]

11. That was part of what surprised me, too...

but the way I saw it is that we are ALL victims of the patriarchy -men, too.

In fact, dissing men because of their gender is also bad.

Patriarchy doesn't necessarily equate with men. There are women who subscribe to it, too! MTG for example!

[50 Shades Of Blue]

12. Barbie didn't diss Ken. He just wasn't on her radar. She didn't owe him any apology for that.

The more I think about it, the more I think this movie really had an insidious message. There is absolutely no comparison between the harm the patriarchy has done to women vs. what it's done to men. Absolutely none.

[cilla4progress]

13. She dissed him by having only

girls night every night. Excluding him.He was just an accessory to her. I think the point was it shouldn't be the standard model either way. That it minimizes us all.

I do see your point tho, and it crossed my mind. I'm interested in exploring further...

[50 Shades Of Blue]

14. I honestly didn't think Barbie treated Ken like an accessory - he simply was not important to

her at all, and she had a right to feel that way about him. That was her choice, and I don't think Ken deserved to be important to Barbie simply because he wanted to be. He could have just accepted that it was a lost cause and moved on, but he foisted himself on her, basically, when she left BarbieLand, accompanying her when she didn't really want him to - not respecting her choice.

For me, it kind of went downhill from there. I know we don't all see it the same way and I appreciate your willingness to listen to my POV!

[Upthevibe]

16. 50 Shades Of Blue...

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IMHO, Ken's presence in the movie is important as it relates to the human condition. I didn't think of this film as being about dolls. I viewed it entirely thorough a symbolic and archetypical lens. I think it was an exellent presention that the extremism of a toxic patriarchy isn't good for anyone, including men.

I actually loved the scene when Ken asks Barbie, (in essence) "Who am I without you, it's Barbie and/then Ken." I didn't see it as Barbie consoling him. I saw it as Barbie having a conversation about being who you are isn't dependent on anyone else - regardless of gender.

I also feel the contrast was critical re: the antithesis of our society: the oppression and subjugation of woman and women being defined by men (the history of woman not being able to own land, not being able to vote, and on and on and on).

Having said all of this, I respect your thoughts and feelings....