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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:41 PM Mar 17

Would you use "gift" as a verb?

Because I write about art, I notice how many times I have seen the word "gift" used as a verb in articles about donated art by rich families to museums. I wonder if this is OK for charitable gifts but not for use in other contexts.

Your thoughts?

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Would you use "gift" as a verb? (Original Post) CTyankee Mar 17 OP
As in 'gifting' or 'gifted' calguy Mar 17 #1
No. It's really irritating when used that way. Ocelot II Mar 17 #2
Appears to be acceptable grammar Septua Mar 17 #3
Yes, Gift is a Verb cbabe Mar 17 #4
Yes, it is a bit affected. In terms of art donations, I think it elevates the donation a bit and sounds appropriately CTyankee Mar 17 #7
That's what I love about English -- we can use nouns as verbs if we want to. fierywoman Mar 17 #5
Very much dislike. NoRethugFriends Mar 17 #6
what word would you use instead of grow in that context? CTyankee Mar 17 #8
Never heard that one!! ailsagirl Mar 17 #20
very big in the business world, which thankfully I'm retired from. NoRethugFriends Mar 17 #23
Great news!! 👍👍 ailsagirl Apr 15 #44
I don't but others do. I could care less. Wonder Why Mar 17 #9
While we're at it, "could care less" suggests that you do care, Ocelot II Mar 17 #26
You are correct! I couldn't care less. But I cared fore your reminder. Thanks. Wonder Why Mar 18 #39
I have had to get used to a lot of jarring "acceptable changes" to grammar, spelling, pronunciation hlthe2b Mar 17 #10
"Nucular" is older than GWB Gruenemann Apr 15 #55
I am well aware.. But Merriam Webster only bowed to public pressure after GWB* was mocked widely... hlthe2b Apr 15 #57
Baffled what the objection is unblock Mar 17 #11
Not sure about that. Lots of charities use the word "give" and "giving" in their messaging, as in "charitable giving." CTyankee Mar 17 #12
I'm not arguing against using "give". Just saying nothing's wrong with "gift" as a verb. unblock Mar 17 #13
Good distinction. Hold that line. SarahD Mar 17 #19
I'll leave you know. SarahD Mar 17 #14
"He's a gifted person" shouldn't mean that he got new socks for his birthday. LastDemocratInSC Mar 17 #15
The loss of gave and given Easterncedar Mar 17 #16
Can we diaiogue about this? SarahD Mar 17 #18
It's overused, IMO. I want to get away from something being "impactful, " too. What would you suggest? CTyankee Mar 18 #31
They call me Little Miss Pedantic Language Person. SarahD Mar 17 #17
I think saying "she is a gifted artist" is fine. Calling someone "gifted" is a nice compliment, IMO, if sincerely meant CTyankee Mar 17 #21
No, I would not. sinkingfeeling Mar 17 #22
i'm not comfortable using "gift" as a verb soldierant Mar 17 #24
Don't Think I Have ProfessorGAC Mar 17 #25
No but I'm slow, I missed the memo about it being ok to use "invite" as a noun. Croney Mar 17 #27
Why not? Language is used by speakers and writers cachukis Mar 17 #28
If I gift you by saying yes would you understand? randr Mar 17 #29
Non! Mme. Defarge Mar 17 #30
During the Valentine fund raiser on DU... PJMcK Mar 18 #32
Nope. (nt) Paladin Mar 18 #33
No, but it is a legitimate usage. malthaussen Mar 18 #34
Donating art to museums involves lawyers, contracts, stipulations, rights, etc., it's not really freely 'gifted' Donkees Mar 18 #35
Lend is all but extinct as a verb swimboy Mar 18 #36
Never ever gave it as any thoughts till now. Now Emile Mar 18 #37
I'm sorry... CTyankee Mar 18 #38
Absolutely not. Not Heidi Mar 18 #40
No, not "gift" by itself sakabatou Mar 19 #41
It may be correct, but I'm not a fan of it being used that way. LudwigPastorius Mar 19 #42
Oddly, I think "gift" is a noun, but "regift" is a verb. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 19 #43
Gift has a clear meaning than give, IMO. ntp AnnaLee Apr 15 #45
Never. Paladin Apr 15 #46
I would say it depends on the context, to be honest. OldBaldy1701E Apr 15 #47
I've never gotten used to Mr.Bill Apr 15 #48
CTyankee ... Upthevibe Apr 15 #49
If you use it to describe an action, yes. Emile Apr 15 #50
Are you a gifted child? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 15 #51
I would not use "gift" as a verb when speaking to wnylib Apr 15 #52
Would you object to the usage as in: "He was a gifted musician"? CTyankee Apr 15 #56
This door is alarmed Dear_Prudence Apr 15 #58
Or, attach a note to the alarmed door sign requesting wnylib Apr 15 #63
Per my post, it depends on whether I was speaking to wnylib Apr 15 #62
Yikes! Dear_Prudence Apr 15 #64
I would not Jilly_in_VA Apr 15 #53
I wouldn't; I find it jarring. But I also wouldn't use "fellowship" as a verb, rsdsharp Apr 15 #54
To be or not to be... Harker Apr 15 #59
Per Merriam Webster ailsagirl Apr 15 #60
Depends on the context. Dulcinea Apr 15 #61

Ocelot II

(115,735 posts)
2. No. It's really irritating when used that way.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:47 PM
Mar 17

What's wrong with "give" or "gave"? To say "He gifted a donation to the museum" is just grating. Why not use "gave," the existing verb?

Septua

(2,256 posts)
3. Appears to be acceptable grammar
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:48 PM
Mar 17
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/gift-as-a-verb#:~:text=Gift%20as%20a%20verb%20has,an%20acceptable%20and%20efficient%20alternative.

Gift as a verb has a 400-year history of use and means “to present someone with a gift.” Some feel strongly that give is the correct word, but gift-as-a-verb is an acceptable and efficient alternative. Since the 1990s the word has surged in popularity, perhaps in part because of a well-known Seinfeld episode concerning “regifting” and “degifting.”


Nowadays, seems some people use all kinds of words in a manner not traditionally used; especially in politics, like 'woke'.

cbabe

(3,548 posts)
4. Yes, Gift is a Verb
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:52 PM
Mar 17

It sounds wrong or tacky or affected to my ears. But has been in use for 400 years so I suppose I’m behind the times.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/gift-as-a-verb

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. Yes, it is a bit affected. In terms of art donations, I think it elevates the donation a bit and sounds appropriately
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:02 PM
Mar 17

"classy" and graceful.

fierywoman

(7,686 posts)
5. That's what I love about English -- we can use nouns as verbs if we want to.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:59 PM
Mar 17

I did something similar in Italian, in Italy, when speaking to a very progressive Italian friend -- he got very upset, barely able to spit out the words, "You can't do that!" In English we have the word, the concept of, "freedom." In Italian they only have "liberty." Enjoy your freedom to use gift as a verb -- or feel free not to.

Ocelot II

(115,735 posts)
26. While we're at it, "could care less" suggests that you do care,
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 09:14 PM
Mar 17

because you're saying that you might possibly (could) care less than you do. Isn't the correct expression "couldn't care less," meaning you are at the rock bottom of caring so it is not possible for you to care any less?

hlthe2b

(102,294 posts)
10. I have had to get used to a lot of jarring "acceptable changes" to grammar, spelling, pronunciation
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:22 PM
Mar 17

and newly created "words" in recent decades. Some doreally rankle me (as when Merriam Webster gave in to the Bushies* and included "NU-KU-Lar" as an alternative pronunciation for nuclear--just because GWB* and several others could not pronounce it.

So, I guess it gets filed under "pick your battles."

But in answer, "gifting" as a verb is not (for me) the most irritating noun newly accepted as a verb. Every few years another generation comes up with more examples and it falls to the rest of us to accept them--whether we want to or not. English is ever-changing. I am told the only language more rapidly changing is Japanese (I have a friend whose knowledge of her birth language stopped at age 5. Now she incites much laughter with her attempts to speak)

hlthe2b

(102,294 posts)
57. I am well aware.. But Merriam Webster only bowed to public pressure after GWB* was mocked widely...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 04:26 PM
Apr 15

bowing to RW pressure...

unblock

(52,253 posts)
11. Baffled what the objection is
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:22 PM
Mar 17

"Gift" is unambiguously charity.

"Give" is not. It *can* refer to a gift, but it could imply an expectation (at least) of something in return.

For instance, here, let me give you my lawn mower, I'm moving into an apartment and won't need it any more. But if you're not using your bread maker anymore, I'd love to have fresh bread now and again.

Sure, context usually makes it clear, but why not have an unambiguous word for it?

Especially given the modern use of "regifting". Should we say regiving instead?

"Gifting" carries an implication that it's associated with an event such as a birthday, or a holiday. "Giving" does not.


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. Not sure about that. Lots of charities use the word "give" and "giving" in their messaging, as in "charitable giving."
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:27 PM
Mar 17

But of course they also say "make your charitable gift today to...."

unblock

(52,253 posts)
13. I'm not arguing against using "give". Just saying nothing's wrong with "gift" as a verb.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:31 PM
Mar 17

To me, anyway.

SarahD

(1,196 posts)
19. Good distinction. Hold that line.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:16 PM
Mar 17

Gifting and giving are each appropriate in a particular circumstance, but I don't see them as absolute synonyms. I think you drew the line where it belongs.

Easterncedar

(2,298 posts)
16. The loss of gave and given
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:59 PM
Mar 17

Is bothersome to me. I think when “donated” is the meaning, it’s a tad less annoying, but it’s so often just used, it seems, to avoid the irregular verb forms.

Like using “impact” as a verb to disguise your confusion between “affect” and “effect”.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
31. It's overused, IMO. I want to get away from something being "impactful, " too. What would you suggest?
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:52 AM
Mar 18

Since I write about art, "impactful" is a word I could easily use a lot. I try to stay away from it. The late, great art critic Peter Sjeldahl for The New Yorker magazine wrote terrific art reviews. He never got past a sophomore year in college but he hated writing anything pretentiously and his reviews were terrific. I have every book of reviews he published.

SarahD

(1,196 posts)
17. They call me Little Miss Pedantic Language Person.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:10 PM
Mar 17

I try to keep quiet, but I sometimes correct my friends when they try to run the gauntlet or throw down the gamut. They invariably blow me off anyway. As you would expect, I am not in favor of using gift as a verb, except when speaking of birthday presents and such..

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. I think saying "she is a gifted artist" is fine. Calling someone "gifted" is a nice compliment, IMO, if sincerely meant
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 05:12 PM
Mar 17

soldierant

(6,890 posts)
24. i'm not comfortable using "gift" as a verb
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 07:19 PM
Mar 17

but I do use "regift" as a verb - as in "If it doesn't work out, feel free to regift it."

cachukis

(2,246 posts)
28. Why not? Language is used by speakers and writers
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 09:30 PM
Mar 17

long before dictionaries.
Ebonics is a much faster means of expression with those who use it.
Conversate is now in the dictionary because it's usage has been accepted by those who accept it.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
32. During the Valentine fund raiser on DU...
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 03:44 AM
Mar 18

… I gifted you a heart for your posts.

It’s an appalling evolution, in my opinion. But there are so many misused and misunderstood words in use today that I can’t get too upset about it.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
34. No, but it is a legitimate usage.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:42 AM
Mar 18

Goes back quite a few centuries. It fell out of fashion, and now it's back in fashion.

-- Mal

Donkees

(31,420 posts)
35. Donating art to museums involves lawyers, contracts, stipulations, rights, etc., it's not really freely 'gifted'
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:12 AM
Mar 18

when there are negotiated strings attached on both sides.

Not Heidi

(1,290 posts)
40. Absolutely not.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:39 PM
Mar 18

Gift is a noun. Give is a verb.

She gifted me a necklace. NO.
She gave me a necklace. YES.

Simple.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
42. It may be correct, but I'm not a fan of it being used that way.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:49 AM
Mar 19

"Friend" is another one.

I'm not going to "friend" you, but I will "befriend" you.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
43. Oddly, I think "gift" is a noun, but "regift" is a verb.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 07:05 AM
Mar 19

Not that I would know anything about regifting, of course.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,137 posts)
47. I would say it depends on the context, to be honest.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 12:45 PM
Apr 15

I see it as being used as a verb when someone wants to describe how they got the donation, or whatever it being referred to. (Yeah yeah, preposition.) Saying whatever was 'gifted' means it was given to someone without reparation or favor. As in I gifted the museum my grandfather's watch because of his involvement in some historical moment. Seeing this lets others know that the watch was given to the museum without a return. Otherwise, it was 'sold' to the museum, or it was 'loaned' to the museum.

That is just my thought about it.

wnylib

(21,491 posts)
52. I would not use "gift" as a verb when speaking to
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 02:51 PM
Apr 15

a native German speaker, and would be cautious about even using it as a noun.

Dear_Prudence

(368 posts)
58. This door is alarmed
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 05:02 PM
Apr 15

"He was a gifted musician" uses "gifted" as an adjective, which is fine.
"He was gifted a musician" uses "gifted" as a verb, which is acceptable grammatically, but it is certainly unethical to give people as gifts. There is formal or academic language, and "gifted" sounds nonstandard or informal to my ear. I wouldn't recommend using it in a thesis. I wouldn't recommend that a minister paraphrase, "The three kings gifted the newborn King."
I won't start a new thread, but I really hated the sign on an exit door at work that read "This door is alarmed". I was an editor for one of the departments and I really wanted to deploy my red pen.

wnylib

(21,491 posts)
63. Or, attach a note to the alarmed door sign requesting
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 06:56 PM
Apr 15

a tranquilizer for the door.

In my post #52, I was referring to the fact that, in German, the word "gift" means "poison."

wnylib

(21,491 posts)
62. Per my post, it depends on whether I was speaking to
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 06:49 PM
Apr 15

a person whose first language is German and whether the musician was ill or dead.

In German, the word gift means "poison."

Jilly_in_VA

(9,983 posts)
53. I would not
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 03:07 PM
Apr 15

It annoys the heck out of me, although not nearly as much as the current use of "shined" instead of "shone". That one totally burns my biscuits, and even more so the people who insist that it's correct! I also dislike the use of "impacted" as a verb and "impactful".

rsdsharp

(9,186 posts)
54. I wouldn't; I find it jarring. But I also wouldn't use "fellowship" as a verb,
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 03:16 PM
Apr 15

and the trend of omitting “to be” drives me nuts. “It needs cleaned,” instead of “It needs to be cleaned.” When did that become a thing?

Harker

(14,024 posts)
59. To be or not to be...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 05:03 PM
Apr 15

I lived in Western Pennsylvania for a couple years. Many people drop "to be" there.

I rarely heard it in the preceding sixty years spent in suburban Chicago and Colorado.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
60. Per Merriam Webster
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 05:29 PM
Apr 15
Gift as a verb has a 400-year history of use and means “to present someone with a gift.” Some feel strongly that give is the correct word, but gift-as-a-verb is an acceptable and efficient alternative.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/gift-as-a-verb#:~:text=Yes%2C%20Gift%20is%20a%20Verb&text=Gift%20has%20been%20used%20to,a%20gift%22%20for%20400%20years.

Dulcinea

(6,643 posts)
61. Depends on the context.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 05:30 PM
Apr 15

I'm in a Facebook Buy Nothing group. In that setting, people say "I'm gifting (whatever they're giving away)" or "This object has been gifted." Not other than that for me, though.

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