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(909 posts)I just read the good articles........
Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)kimbutgar
(26,884 posts)When I was clearing out my parents house I found the boxes of my Dads playboy magazines. I asked the hauler if he was going to throw them away he said hell no Im keeping them! He then told me he cleared out a house with a really religious family who had crosses and religious stuff around the house and found playboy, Penthouse and other girlie magazines and the family was very apologetic!
I did though keep an illustrated humorous adult comic book that was really naughty!
Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)
MIButterfly
(2,155 posts)True story.
Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)MIButterfly
(2,155 posts)I speak the truth. There were articles and stories in Playboy in those days.
stopdiggin
(15,064 posts)and she both read and defended the good writing (as did I) - but was also unoffended by the soft porn/art - and thought it was OK if her children saw it as well!
Her: "So, what .. now we're going to start draping the statue of David in bedsheets? Paint over all the Rubins? Nothing 'healthy' about an aversion to nature and real life! The Puritans need to grown up .. n' mind their own damned business!"
And - I have always been a little chaffed by the smug eyerolls that accompanied defense of Playboy's 'writing'
"Did you ever really even TRY to read any of their stuff .. ?" "Or did you just make up your mind, about what you 'knew' - without making any effort, or gaining actual knowledge/evidence?"
Having said that --- Will acknowledge in a heartbeat that Playboy/Hefner (and 'playboy persona', slash 'lifestyle') had plenty to answer for in terms of objectifying - cheapening - and just all around sluggish and scummy outlook regarding women. (while at the same time probably being 'ahead' on a number of other things?). But then - so did the movies, the clubs, the schools, the workplace, the churches, the government .... It was the 50s-60s. We didn't know that Marilyn was walking-talking pin-up? And that every garage in America had a calendar .. ? Was it OK? No. But then neither was Shakespeare, the Bible - segregation, Comstock law, miscegenation - and a whole lot of other crappy attitudes, and 'moral code', that 'society' foisted on us. We ALL had a lot of growing up to do. And that include Playboy - and I daresay, my mother, myself, and a whole bunch of other people.
malthaussen
(18,424 posts)... and here is is 2026, and we're still doing the "nudge-nudge/wink-wink" act over nekkid wimmin.
The only thing I found offensive about Playboy was the sheer volume of advertising.
-- Mal
Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)Yea, riiiiiiigt!
stopdiggin
(15,064 posts)(and on interesting and topical subjects)
too bad you never got beyond ...
Liberal In Texas
(16,007 posts)First class the professor assigned everyone to go buy the current copy of Playboy and read a certain article. His point was that there were worthwhile authors to read, not just naked women to look at. Kind of radical back at that time.
Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)anciano
(2,198 posts)Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)malthaussen
(18,424 posts)... "The Playboy Philosophy" was an interesting long-run series in the 60's, probably of significant sociological or anthropological interest now. After all, there were a lot of guys and not a few women who tried to put it into practice.
Some ground-breaking interviews, too. George Lincoln Rockwell by Alex Haley, no less (they did a movie about that with James Earl Jones playing Haley), interviews with Norman Mailer, MLK, Bertrand Russell, Sartre, Fellini, Nabokov, Dylan (many times)... they were in-depth interviews, too, not just a few hundred words of fluff.
Some nice pictorals, too.
-- Mal
Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)malthaussen
(18,424 posts)Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)Morbius
(909 posts)Penthouse > Playboy.
Floyd R. Turbo
(32,289 posts)hunter
(40,390 posts)Photos, drawings, and paintings of naked people were not hidden in our home. They were right out there on the coffee table, both women and men, including my mom's radical feminist 'zines.
My mom's criticism of Playboy was the sexism, the airbrushing, and the excessive makeup. Compared to some of the other stuff scattered about our house, the articles in Playboy really were more interesting than the photos.
I don't think I had any unanswered questions about sex, sexuality, or birth control by the time I became seriously interested in sex. That probably kept me out of a lot of trouble.
Some neighborhood kids were forbidden by their parents to go into our house. I remember my dad had a huge falling out with one of his sports buddies when the guy caught his teenage kid with a magazine the kid had taken from our house.
